Jeremiah Wright is set to retire in a fabulous mansion costing roughly $1,000,000

[The Night Owl]

Obama pastor building home in Odyssey

March 28, 2008
From staff reports

A $1 million home is being built in Tinley Park for the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., the controversial pastor to Barack Obama.

Plans filed with the village show a 10,340-square-foot, four-bedroom home under construction in the Odyssey subdivision is for the Trinity United Church of Christ minister. The church is paying for the home.

Wright made news this month when video surfaced showing him using racial slurs while blasting Obama's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton. Wright also blamed global terrorism on American foreign policy, saying this country's "chickens had come home to roost."

...

http://www.southtownstar.com/neighborhoodstar/tinleypark/866579,wrightforweb.article

Damn... Religion pays really well.

[democrattotheend]

1. I can't believe this is a story

You'd think Wright was running for president! I am so sick of the media reporting on everything he says and does...he's not running!

[Yes We Did]

147. It's not... they are just desperate. Gotta diffuse Obama's 8 point national lead.

[Life Long Dem]

182. What's the moral of this story? It's nice to have money?

Okay!

[Zorra]

148. It is a story, because what he is doing is entirely "un-Christlike"

like just another Elmer Gantry figure.

If you talk the talk, then walk the walk, or stop your phony bullshit.

If you preach for cash and materialistic gain, like Sinclair Lewis's "Elmer Gantry", then you better be ready to take some heat for it.

[democrattotheend]

149. And if Wright were running for public office, it would be a legitimate story

But this story is a clear case of guilt by association to the extreme.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

186. you mean un-Christ-like as in voting for the war on Iraq?

or un-Christ-like as in Hillary Clinton having $54 Million in personal wealth?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

187. or do you mean "un-Christ-Like" as in John Edwards 30,000 Sq Ft mansion?

or his $400 haircut?


Does that make him un-Christ-Like?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

188. or "un-Christ-like" as in like Bill committing adultery with an intern and many other women?

all the Bimbo Gate eruptions.

[Hieronymus]

171. Where I live that's about the price of a two bedroom apartment ... get real.

[Brundle_Fly]

178. same.

[Maddy McCall]

2. I need to be a preacher.

There's more money in it than used to be!

[emilyg]

7. Amen.

[Mags]

18. He was the person who shaped BHO and he will

always be known as that.

[VolcanoJen]

92. You know who shaped Obama? His mother.

You should read about her. She'll easily be the most fascinating presidential mom this nation has ever seen. May she rest in peace.

New York Times - A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama's Path

[JuniperLea]

112. Yep... you can never put the cat back into the bag!

And no matter how they triangulate it, his words were hateful. And I don't care how you explain away "the reason" he might say something like that, he is in a position of power and should know better.

Next thing you know we'll have to start forgiving priests for diddling with little boys! "Oh well... oh, my... they had a hard life... they were mistreated themselves... blah blah blah fuckity blah! Disgusting!

[anonymous171]

115. You are using triangulation incorrectly.

[JuniperLea]

119. No, I'm not...

But I can see how some might mistake it for something else. It's a term used in PR... we use triangles, actual triangles, to illustrate points.

[roguevalley]

195. Bill has blood on his hands (rwanda) girls and dirty money. Hillary

stayed with him for whatever reason. Good for her. Now her own bloody hands: land mines, Iraq, sucking up to redneck media moguls (scaife, murdoch, drudge) fantastical delusions for political gain (Bosnia is merely one of them) and all the rest. Forgive me if this only points out more shit about the Clintons than anyone else.

[sunnystarr]

153. Considering he didn't meet Wright until he was 27

I think he was well shaped by then lol You people are pathetic!

[juajen]

167. I though he said Pastor Wright brought him to Christ?

Didn't he?

[Chulanowa]

169. Hey, save up for thirty years and who knows?

Or forty. How long has he been preaching?

[40ozDonkey]

3. Hooray, more pastorbating. n/t

[JuniperLea]

122. How long before we have to let priests off the hook too?

A person in a position of power should know better... and a preacher of all people should not be preaching hate.

[40ozDonkey]

142. What does that have to do with his home?

What does your opinion have to do with Americans?
My paycheck? My country's defense spending?
My wife's job prospects?
The value of my dollar?
The transparency and efficiency of my government?
The guarantee of my civil rights?
The safety of my food and water?

Nothing.

Wrightrage isn't a political platform.
Good luck, though.

[Kittycat]

4. dupe,

[anonymous171]

5. That Wright guy is such a fatcat poser. I'll never vote for him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

10. Me either. I'll stay home before voting for him in November.

:rofl:

[anamandujano]

6. Now he can really identify with the poor he preaches to.

[anonymous171]

32. So people who aren't poor can't identify with the poor, can't help them?

What does that say about John Edwards then? Was he a fraud? He was rich but he cared (or SAID he cared) about poverty issues.

[VolcanoJen]

93. Of course the rich can't identify with the poor!!

Look at Franklin Delano Roosevelt, for example. Or the entire Kennedy Family. :-)

[JuniperLea]

118. That's a pretty broad brush there...

I personally know several billionaires who worked their way up from bean-counter positions, or put themselves through tough schools like Stanford by working at Baskin Robbins... you better believe they aren't about to forget what it's like to be poor.

Not all poor people deserve our pity, and not all rich people deserve the hating I'm seeing here.

[VolcanoJen]

132. I should've used the sarcasm tag.

I agree with you on this point completely.

Except for the "I personally know several billionaires" part.

[Kukesa]

150. Doesn't Stanford currently offer FREE tuition if

a student's parents make less that $100K?

[goclark]

42. That church is not just for poor people

I'm sure you didn't mean to imply such a thing.

There are 8,000 people that attend the church and they represent a cross section of economic groups.

There are many preachers, of all races, that have houses that cost a million dollars and much more. Remember that the church usually provides housing for their ministers ~ you can save a lot of money that way.

Whatever, I could care less that a minister has a million dollar house.

Jerry Farwell, Tammy Baker and all the rest made millions!

And there are many African Americans that have million dollar plus houses.

By the way, Rev. Wright is not running for President, Sen. Obama is~
Just as the leaders of The Fellowship are not running for President, Sen. Clinton is.

Huum, where are those tax returns from Hillary Clinton? Since they must be super clean, we should have seen them long ago. Now SHE is running for President and it is almost APRIL 2008.

[anamandujano]

71. Let me rephrase.

May I substitute the word "downtrodden?"

He rails against this culture but rises with the cream.

An man who cared at all to advance his people would find points of agreement and take it from there.

[Skip Intro]

8. Well God Damn America! nt

[The Night Owl]

9. God damn America... Isn't that in the Bible or something? {EOM}

[MnFats]

12. in the fred phelps bible. maybe...someone should get those two together...

...now THAT would be a hell of a debate.....

[krawhitham]

131. Fuck Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRdk_exMkY0

[sudopod]

165. God doesn't like it

when the wealthy leave the poor to starve in the streets. Remember the story of Lazarus and the rich man?

Who does that? *shrug*

I suppose it's only permitted to damn America for important things like letting gay people get married and stuff. Poor people should have thought about going hungry before being poor, after all.

[Maddy McCall]

31. lol

[Catherine Vincent]

125. LOL!

[jgraz]

11. Hillary Clinton set to retire to a fabulous senate career lasting roughly four years...

[anamandujano]

She doesn't spew hatred against the country in which she was allowed

to lift herself up.

I doubt she'll be retiring any time soon.

[jgraz]

76. No she just makes up stories about being under fire while our troops are in harm's way

And, unlike Obama, SHE actually did it, not some random associate of hers.

Good luck running that shit against "war hero" McCain.

[anamandujano]

79. And unlike Obama she actually landed in a war zone.

There was always a possibility of gunfire whether it materialized or not.

[anonymous171]

81. McCain fought in a fucking war. If Hillary counts being in a warzone as Foreign Policy experience

How will the voters respond to someone who has actually FOUGHT in one. Neither have any room to talk in this regard and it is downright stupid for Hillary to try and run like this.

[jgraz]

86. You just hit on the core Clinton strategy

Hope and pray the the electorate actually is THAT stupid.

[malletgirl02]

197. Being in a warzone

If time spent in a war zone should be a criteria for president, then we should just forget about the primaries, and just pick the military person who has spent the most time under fire in Iraq or Afghanistan.

[jgraz]

84. And yet that wasn't good enough for Hillary von Clinthausen

She had to invent a story about dodging sniper fire to "sex up" her resume. Just in case it wasn't yet clear that her candidacy was finished...

[VolcanoJen]

96. You should really send her that one!

That'll go over big.

"Well... I misspoke. I was the first First Lady to fly into a war zone since Eleanor Roosevelt, because Pat Nixon doesn't count. And it doesn't really matter if I made up some story about sniper fire that never happened. Because, you see, it is not my fault that the promised gunfire never materialized."

Are you really giving her a total pass on TuzlaGate?

[B2G]

13. And damn that white greed. n/t

[2rth2pwr]

14. White folks' greed runs a world in need.

Wright grew up in comfort and will retire in same, his disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness" notwithstanding.


Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"

[anonymous171]

17. Hey look, the rest of the text:

Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.” Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.

Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:

1. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.
2. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.
3. Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us.”
4. So, while it is permissible to chase “middleclassness” with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method – the psychological entrapment of Black “middleclassness.” If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our “voluntary” contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.

[2rth2pwr]

41. Wow, that sure makes it clear.

[polkajello]

77. Wright avoids middleclassness

He's gonna live first class!

[ProSense]

15. Are you a member of his church? Where are Hillary's tax returns? n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

16. I don't know if Wright will get my vote because of this

This is potentially damaging.

[VolcanoJen]

99. I'm still on the fence.

Candidate Wright was a United States Marine, so unlike Senator Clinton, he really might have experienced sniper fire. :-)

[malletgirl02]

198. lol

You know sometimes I think there should be a Wright board on DU. He gets discussed so much on this board, and he isn't running for president.

[Irreverend IX]

19. Whenever someone starts talking to me about Jesus, I put a hand on my wallet...

...cause I know that's what they're after.

[The Night Owl]

25. Now we know why TUCC has been so inclusive. Pastor Wright needed lots of donations to...

...fund his 10,000 square foot dream house.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. A lot worse people did a whole lot better than this.

Leave it alone.

[anamandujano]

Name three.

[The_Casual_Observer]

29. Ronald Reagan, OJ Simpson, Ferdinand Marcos

The Shah of Iran too.

[anamandujano]

68. None of them are doing too well today.

[Teaser]

21. LET IT SINK

.

[The Night Owl]

26. I thank you for the kick. Please come again. {EOM}

[anamandujano]

75. Looks like it's really catching on.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[AZ Criminal JD]

90. Get right on that.

[aquarius dawning]

22. Pandering to anti-white man/anti-American sentiments pays well apparently.

[anonymous171]

27. obviously don't know anything except the 30 sound bite.

Don't be ignorant.

[aquarius dawning]

34. I don't think I could have sat through more than 30 seconds of it. Certainly not 20 years of it

that's for sure.

[Name removed]

35. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[aquarius dawning]

46. A.) if you're going to call someone "truely ignorant", you should spell truly right.

B.) I wouldn't sit through 30 seconds of any sermon let alone a Jeremiah Wright sermon. Fact of the matter is, I heard enough in those "30 seconds" to know what he's preaching and who he's preaching to.

[anonymous171]

49. WTF!? That is ridiculous. Seriously. Talk about lack of intellectual honesty.

[aquarius dawning]

50. talk about it all you want. do it with someone else though why don't you?

[anonymous171]

53. Why do I even bother? Gb2CH if you want one sided discussions based on 30sec soundbites.

[PresidentObama]

23. Non-story. n/t

[Clovis Sangrail]

24. duh... religion is a racket just like any other

[JoFerret]

110. Ain't that the truth

just coated in sanctimony

[Mika]

28. What's the mortgage payment? n/t

[Seabiscuit]

180. He probably bought it with a suitcase full of cash.

No mortgage needed.

[stratomagi]

30. I hear Rev. Wright uses Lever 2000 bar soap

because he told a dinner guest, "at least its not IVORY or IRISH Spring." More on News at 11.

[Olney Blue]

33. Sounds like my house!

Wright's two-story house will have finished basement, along with two decks, a circular driveway, room for a future swimming pool or theater, a four-car garage, elevator, family room with bar, master bathroom with whirlpool and custom shower and master bedroom with fireplace and under-counter fridge.

[FrenchieCat]

36. Wright isn't running! Where in the fuck are Hillary's tax returns??????

She's running if you hadn't noticed.

Answer that before pastorbating next time! :eyes:

[PresidentObama]

38. Better yet, can anyone in her campaign explain her "path to victory"? She has none.

[FrenchieCat]

52. I'm just praying that he wins PA, so that we can end this.....

[MS68]

161. Give it 14 years...

He'll be worth 30 million dollars.....I think this is an age difference thing - not a lack of caring about material goods and wealth on the Obamas part.

[tammywammy]

37. That's it! I'll never vote for Wright!

You should contact the church members and see if they're upset with this.

[SeattleGirl]

39. As Darth Cheney said, So?

I wasn't going to vote for Wright anyway. :eyes:

[MrSlayer]

40. And this is relevant because?

I don't get what this has to do with the primary race.

[2rth2pwr]

43. kicking for people to add "let it sink".

[The Night Owl]

48. Here! Here! Torpedoes away! Let it sink! {EOM}

[anamandujano]

78. Good idea. Some of them need to increase their post count quickly.

[anonymous171]

44. Be sure to clean up after you finish pastorbating.

It's good for your health but be sure to do it in private. Otherwise you will sound like an idiot. Have fun! :)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

45. Is it really FABULOUS?

That is just so dreamy!

:eyes:

[MikeNearMcChord]

47. How is Wright's house in comparison to Rod Parsley's?

John Haggee's or the big daddy of the Right, Rev. Moon's?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

51. $1 Million? That's chump change to the Clintons.

[DrFunkenstein]

54. He's Not a Monk And Didn't Take a Vow of Poverty

By the way, he was quoting some white guy he saw on tv when he said the "chickens had come home to roost."

But I never thought that spiritual leaders had to prove their holiness through vows of poverty or chastity or whatever. That's not the kind of religious that I am.

[anamandujano]

80. He should have taken a vow of silence.

[DrFunkenstein]

82. touche!

I disagree (listen to his actual sermons, not the soundbites), but I must admit that it was a nice comeback!

[CatnHat]

172. LOL

:rofl: :rofl:

What I don't get, really, is how Obama still can defend this guy. After 20 years of close association with this pastor and church, and only when it got rough for him; did he come out against the "some" of the remarks. Sorry, don't buy his crap.

[AZ Criminal JD]

94. He was not quoting a white guy.

Unless you think Malcolm X was white. He was quoting the X man who made the statement "the chickens have come home to roost" when he was told about JFK's assassination. What a great person for Obama to be getting his spiritual advice from.

[SoCalDem]

181. Have you SEEN the price of eggs.. I HOPE he's got some chickens

:evilgrin:

[XemaSab]

55. What do you think would be fair here?

If the church bought him a cheaper house you'd accuse them of not caring about their elderly pastor.

I think the old man deserves to have a nice house after 30 years of service to Trinity.

Also, this article is missing some details like does he live in a house owned by the church now, what is the yearly pastor's salary, how much does the church get in the plate every weekend, what's the new pastor's situation, what are typical housing prices in the area ('cause here you can get a cute postwar 3 bedroom for a mil), the list goes on.

[ej510]

56. So What!!!!!

Until about a year ago my house was worth $800,000.00 and I drive a bus and my husband worked in a warehouse.

[The Night Owl]

65. If Baron Wright is a man of God, then he shouldn't want a 10,000 square foot mansion.

Of course, the truth is that Pastor Wright, like so many religious figures, is a fraud.

[anonymous171]

72. He hasn't taken a vow of poverty.

John Edwards talks a lot about helping the poor and ending poverty. But he's a rich guy. So is John Edwards a fraud too?

[dysfunctional press]

126. i hear tell the pope has some pretty sweet digs.

and in his very own private fucking country.

not in the country, A country.

[The Night Owl]

138. I can assure you that I am no fan of the Pope. {EOM}

[Joe the Revelator]

57. Oh My GaWd!!!!!! You mean Wright isn't going to kill himself and go live on the street??

Some of you make me fucking sick.

[Cha]

58. While you're trying to distract with a $1, 000, 000 house for the Rev..

Bonobo (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-25-08 12:59 AM
Original message
"She has the nerve to lie about being under fire while sending our troops into real peril!
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 12:59 AM by Bonobo
Some Commander-in-Chief.

She takes responsibility for nothing.

Not for the 500,000 Iraqi children that died because of the Clinton's Iraqi sanctions.

Not for the 4,000 killed and 40,000 wounded American soldiers that she handed to Bush on a plate when he asked for them.

Not for the 1 million Iraqis killed during the current conflict.

Not for the Cluster-Bombs she REFUSED to sign a ban on.

But she has the nerve to lie about going into a dangerous area for the purposes of political SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT!

How disgusting can you get."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5244745

[RBInMaine]

59. He has retired from 35 of preaching and other work. Your point is????

[AZ Criminal JD]

97. Looks like he saved more than souls.

[The Night Owl]

139. LOL! Good one. You are firing on all cylinders tonight. {EOM}

[juajen]

170. Looks like this preacherman is getting a 11,000,000 dollar golden parachute!

This new home is just now being built, and is in a gated community, you know, to keep the riffraff out. Doesn't seem as if he practices what he preaches. Over 10,000 square feet in a gated community in Chicago does not go for l,000,000, The article said that 1,400,000 was the beginning of construction loan, with a 10,000,000 dollar line of credit.

All of this according to an article I read, so, don't accept it as "gospel".

[Raven]

60. You guys are running out of material...quickly. n/t

[Forkboy]

61. Cool...more power to him.

[Bensthename]

62. Preachers are in it for the money, so he did good.

[Whisp]

63. Clinton income has risen like the Inconveniet Truth chart

from 2003.

back door deals pay really well.

[Stinky The Clown]

64. I wonder if his calling me a 'garlic head' helped enrichen him.

[anonymous171]

69. Whoah! You're an ancient roman?

Salve!

[eridani]

154. Shouldn't that be Ave atque Vale? n/t

[KittyWampus]

70. you were alive at the time of the Crucifixion?

[Hoof Hearted]

88. You are not allowed to be offended.

You're not dark enough. Didn't read the rules, did you.

:sarcasm:

[anonymous171]

89. No. Not old enough. 2000 years too young.

[Hoof Hearted]

116. You don't get to tell Hub2Sparky when he is allowed or not allowed to be offended

You have no control over that. It's not your place.

[anonymous171]

128. OK. I'm offended by your post.

[VolcanoJen]

100. Why did you kill Jesus?

:cry:

[JTFrog]

66. Keep your Mother Fuckin Religion out of my Mother Fuckin Politics.

What part of the Constitution do you people not understand.

[Tinksrival]

67. golf course community

How far does your money go in the Chicago SW suburb:

current listing in Odyssey:



List Price: $850,000
MLS Number: 6650957
2 ODYSSEY DR
TINLEY PARK, IL 60477

Property Type: House
Bedrooms: 5
Full Bathrooms: 6
Status: Active


Wow! The man should be crusified! :sarcasm:

[Kaylee]

83. I live in the Wash DC area in a 1960's split foyer worth 600,000

and have homes in our county that are by no means mansions worth over 900,000. 1 million dollar houses really aren't what they used to be.

[AZ Criminal JD]

What's next - 'Let them eat cake?'

[Kaylee]

113. No the point is in Chicago suburbs this may not be

an exorbitant house. Give the man his due and let him retire in peace. He's built up the largest church in Chicago and is considered a national leader in theology. I'm sure he makes a nice sum of money with speaking engagements and the like and the numerous leadership positions he's had over the years.

I don't hear any of his former congregation complaining about his house, so what business is it of ours.

[malletgirl02]

127. Real Estate

I agree the poster who responded to your original post doesn't understand the real estate market. I live if Stafford, about 40 miles from DC VA there are houses worth 300,000 or more in freaking Stafford county! As you know to get a house in a DC metro area where you live is twice as much or more. You know better than I do, housing costs are insane in the DC metro area; you don't get much for your money. Housing in any large metro area is bound to be expensive.

[AX10]

73. Why would he "God Damn America"?

:wtf: It seems he has done quite well for himself.

[anonymous171]

74. Obviously have never heard the actual sermon.

[DUyellow]

91. i bet 99% of the poeple who talk trash about him, have not seen the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xefkz0aOfk

[VolcanoJen]

101. Please. They can't possibly watch the video.

It's a meme-killer. :-)

[DUyellow]

104. I just think it is so ironic that he is responding to what somebody said on FOX NEWS!

[VolcanoJen]

106. It is ironic, isn't it?

And depressing.

[DUyellow]

85. really, have you watched it? the 5 min before and the 5 min after?

I bet a lot of people would be surprised.

if any of you have not... here you go
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xefkz0aOfk

[Seabiscuit]

183. As Don King would say... "Only In America" could Wright make out like a bandit.

After years of decrying white greed and "middle classness" he's pocketed enough of his flock's feathers to feather his own nest quite lavishly.

[Hoof Hearted]

87. Well, at least he doesn't have to worry about "middle classness," right?

Gee, he's able to build a house like that in a country controlled BY RICH WHITE PEOPLE!!!!?????

What a fuckin' scam artist, that one.

[FrenchieCat]

102. Sure.......

here Wright appears while being scammed by the master scammers!

[Hoof Hearted]

How many decades did Clinton sit in the pews? How many Clinton children did Wright baptize

while he screamed God DAMN AMERICA?

Even you can't be that deluded. Oh, wait. It's YOU.

[anonymous171]

133. WTF!? He said that during the sermon. You should actually WATCH it.

Certain HRC supports are just really (and understandably) angry that this "scandal" didn't sink Obama as they predicted. I feel for you, I really do. But that's no reason to become unreasonable.

[Name removed]

95. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[blogslut]

103. Excuse me?

Welfare moms?

Could you be just a little less obvious?

[surfermaw]

109. Why: is it like Truman said, I only speak the truth , they think it hell

[blogslut]

111. What color are these "welfare moms"

hmmm?

[Pringles]

157. From what I recollect, all vaginas are the same color inside.

Whether they are otherwise called n-words or white trash by those who helped put them where they are and hold them there.

All of them are women.

[Nia Zuri]

107. Wow, just wow...

[Forkboy]

120. Well, with all the money they earned mopping your floors I guess they can spend it how they want.

[libnnc]

137. Hey kids! It's David Duke's Granny's Greatest Hits!

Yes, they're all here...

All your favorite ignorant, racist bile on ONE album

You get, "You and YOUR kind outta be grateful you're not mopping my kitchen floors anymore..."

Who can forget "Hey! Blackfolk! You OWE ME! I voted for LBJ!!"

And the ever popular "Lookit them thar WELFARE MOMMAS spending their WELFARE MONEY on the BLACK Preecherman!!"



Yes, they're all here in one eye-opening collection.

Call Now! Operators are standing by!


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[Seabiscuit]

98. Well 1 million dollars in Odyssey sure gets you a lot of house .. 10,000 + square feet.

I wonder what the taxes and upkeep are for the house, does the church pay that as well? Is this something the church gives to all the ministers when they retire? I wonder if this part of benefit plan ... oh forget it, I don't care. I'm so over Rev. Wright.

[FrenchieCat]

105. I wonder how much former Presidents get after 8 years of work.....

and how they parley their connections? We will be finding out soon!

What does someone "do" to earn 13 million in one year? :shrug:

That's what I'm interested in....cause Wright ain't running for office, if you forgot while you were closing your eyes and pastorbating.

[JuniperLea]

114. There you go... hating on the rich...

Jealous much?

[anonymous171]

117. How do you know she's not wealthy?

Clinton's not a big fan of the rich either. Not many people on here are.

[JuniperLea]

123. Sorry... this makes no sense... eom

[FrenchieCat]

121. Although my house has dropped 16% in value.......

let's just say that its worth more than Wright's future retirement residence.

[JuniperLea]

124. Hell, I live in Los Angeles...

We all have million dollar+ homes... I'm just wondering what rat's nest you can build a 10k sq ft home in for a scant million!

Location, location, location... price will always vary, prime location will almost always be prime.

[Thickasabrick]

108. What about Falwell's house, or Billy Graham's spread? This is

just beyond stupid.

[The Night Owl]

140. A lot of us on the left have rightly criticized Jerry Falwell and Bill Graham...

...for amassing enormous wealth while collecting checks from people who can barely pay their bills. Why should Pastor Wright be above criticism? Fuck Pastor Wright and high horse he rode in on.

[Duder]

129. Good

At least it's not an offshore account:

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Clinton's Cayman funds under scrutiny
http://caymannetnews.com/news-6270--1-1--.html

[krawhitham]

130. He has wrote over 10 books, he has money

look at the money Obama made from just 2 books.

[The Night Owl]

143. Pastor Wright's dream house was a gift from the TUCC congregation.

Perhaps Pastor Wright can use money from book sales to pave his driveway with gold.

[enid602]

134. GD

God Damn america, all the way to the bank!

[Catherine Vincent]

135. I hope he didn't get one of those sub prime loans. nt

[LittleClarkie]

136. And?

?

What does this have to do with the primaries?

[wileedog]

141. You think Fucking Bush is headed for a life of poverty?

He's done worse than Wright ever could with some sermons.

[cooolandrew]

144. God bless Rev Wright may he have many blessingsin his retirement.

[RememberWellstone]

145. God damned????????

Holy shit, I wish he would damm me with some $$$ like Rev. Ike...errrr..Rev. Wright!

[madrchsod]

146. cool the second night in a row about a story

that is well nothing it all worth mentioning. if this guy was`t connected to obama no one would would ever know this or give a shit...

the fox news report posted last night was much better..you really should have used that.

[New Dawn]

151. I doubt that it pays as well as sitting on the corporate board of Wal-Mart

And stealing from Wal-Mart's underpaid wage-slaves.

[2rth2pwr]

152. Can you imagine the spread he'd have if Whitey wasn't conspiring against him?

[againes654]

155. Ok I can't resist

The skies must have opened up and God blessed him well.


Sorry :spank:

[NYCGirl]

156. You can't buy a one bedroom apt. in NYC for $1,000,000. And only a few

studio apts. are under that.

[mrJJ]

158. This link reliable?

Hillary's Nasty Pastorate

There's a reason Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

snip

Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.

snip

Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the under-appreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define The Family's theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power--cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

[goletian]

159. get this repuke outta here. n/t

[MS68]

160. This is the problem that I have with most organized religion..

It seems a lot of the money made by organizations with tax-free status ultimately goes to fund somewhat lavish lifestyles for the leaders. As far as I'm concerned, they should be treated like the rest of us - whatever goes to charity should be tax deductable. The rest of it should be taxed.

I don't care where you live - the ability to purchase a million dollar home seems wealthy to me and I find it very hypocritical to be preaching against rich white folks when you're aren't doing too bad yourself.

That doesn't affect my opinion of Obama except that he seems to fall in the same trap that a lot of people I don't respect fall into, including Hillary I'm sure - attending and participating in religious organizations that really care mostly about number one - themselves.

[goletian]

163. you cant get a 2bdr condo in my town for less than 500k. 1000000 aint squat.

this is 2008, buddy. and the house is probably a loaner from the church.

[MS68]

164. It sounds like he probably could have built a 5K square ft home

for considerably less - if the 10k feet part of it is true. Hell, 3k would be quite comfortable. Obviously, if the story is true, you can get a lot of home for a million where he's building. He's not buying a condo - he's building a 10k square foot home.

[file83]

162. "Oooo....Oooooooh - someone who knows Obama has money!!!"

And honestly, what politician doesn't know someone with money?

[EFerrari]

168. Oh, noooosee -- the Reverend Wright is successful!

We can't have THAT!

[juajen]

166. Actually, the story I read said the lot was 300,000 dollars, the building loan

was l,400,000 dollars, with a line of credit of 10,000,000 dollars to completion. The house is in a gated community in Chicago.

[donheld]

173. Quite frankly my dear

I don't give a damn!

[TheCowsCameHome]

174. Wow. That would buy lots of large appliance cartons.

[Catchawave]

175. Under $100 sq foot in the Chicago area?

Sounds like a good deal.

[izzybeans]

176. A house that size in Tinley Park would be way, way more costly than 1 million.

When smearing people at least try to put some truth to the lie. It's more believable that way.

[stevenleser]

177. Alerted. This OP has nothing to do with the primaries...

[Levgreee]

179. UMMM that's not a mansion.

Plans filed with the village show a 10,340-square-foot, four-bedroom home under construction in the Odyssey subdivision is for the Trinity United Church of Christ minister. The church is paying for the home.

Wright's two-story house will have finished basement, along with two decks, a circular driveway, room for a future swimming pool or theater, a four-car garage, elevator, family room with bar, master bathroom with whirlpool and custom shower and master bedroom with fireplace and under-counter fridge

[SoCalDem]

184. An ordinary-looking duplex in San Francisco ..$4,795,000.00

http://www.pacoeassociates.com/properties/2740-42filbert/



Million dollar homes aren't what they used to be:)

[Blue Diadem]

185. It's being paid for by the church, meaning the church probably owns it.

I could be wrong, but I'm betting it's like many other churches that own the actual property and let their current and/or retired ministers live there either rent free or for minimal rent.

The smallest church in our town owns a home and does that for their minister. The largest owns two homes and does the same thing.

edited to add: our town=population a little over 1,000.

[ourbluenation]

189. As long as it's a fabulous mansion. Spending that much on a crappy one would suck.

:boring:

[The Night Owl]

190. A picture of Baron Wright's ostentatious new home...

The Wright mansion is like something out of Dynasty. Check out the grand entrance...

http://www.suntimes.com/business/867629,CST-NWS-wright29.article

Put a shrimp on the barby!

[Blue Diadem]

191. Trinity United Church of Christ is listed as the landowner on the permit.

per your link.

[The Night Owl]

203. Money well spent? I don't think so. {EOM}

[backscatter712]

192. Explain to me why I should give a shit...

[dchill]

193. Are you really a Democrat?

Just wondering. We ALL know some real negative stuff about the Clintons, too, you know. Involving a hell of a lot more than $1 million. Right? Right?

[Liberal Gramma]

194. Relevance, please

How does this relate to the primary race? How much Wright spends on his house has no power to affect how either candidate might run the country. Is this perhaps just random bile?

[citizen snips]

196. His entire career has been all about money.

Just like most pastors.

[Swamp Rat]

199. Good for him!

[madrchsod]

200. three days now...can we make four?

three days on this non issue

[RestoreGore]

201. Hate pays well in America. n/t

[varelse]

202. I don't suppose his congregation, who actually paid for this home

is too put out about it. Kind of makes you wonder what someone who has absolutely nothing to do with the good Reverend or his church would have their noses so out of joint over this... BTW my little household of three is renting a "low income" house in a neighborhood where you can't hardly toss a brick anywhere without it going through the window of a 1.5 million dollar property... and you're not going to break the window on an actual mansion assessed at less than 4 million here - and many of those houses are owned or rented by ordinary, middle-class families, too. Sounds like property prices in Jeremiah's neighborhood have also climbed through the roof (no pun intended).

Still... What, exactly, is the beef here? And what, pray tell, does it have to do with the Democratic primary?

[cigsandcoffee]

204. God Damn! America! (nt)