Obama's superdelegate indicted- One Degree of Seperation

[Tellurian]

"Puerto Rican Gov. Anibal Acevedo-Vila and twelve others have been charged in a sealed indictment by U.S. authorities on "18 counts in a long-running campaign finance probe."

According to the March 27, 2008:

U.S. Department of Justice Office of Public Affairs press release:

Puerto Rico Governor Anibal Acevedo Vila and 12 associates in Puerto Rico, Washington D.C., and the Philadelphia-area have been charged in a 27-count indictment unsealed today and returned by a grand jury in San Juan, Puerto Rico on March 24, 2008, Assistant Attorney General Alice S. Fisher of the Criminal Division and U.S. Attorney Rosa Emilia Rodriguez-Velez of the District of Puerto Rico announced today.

The defendants face charges ranging from conspiracy, false statements, wire fraud, federal program fraud and tax crimes related to campaign financing for the governor's 1999-2000 and 2001-2002 campaign for Resident Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and subsequent 2004 gubernatorial campaign.

According to the indictment, the defendants conspired to defraud the United States and violate various Federal Election Campaign Act provisions by having Puerto Rico businessmen make illegal and unreported contributions to pay off large and unreported debts stemming from Acevedo Vila's 1999-2000 and 2001-2002 campaigns for Resident Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. Payments were made principally to the public relations and media company for the campaigns. The illegal actions continued into 2003, due to the significant debt accumulated by the campaigns, some of which was also concealed from the FEC and the public.

http://www.rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/one-degree-of-separation-obama_27.html

Acevedo-Vila, a superdelegate for 2008 presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), endorsed Obama in February 2008.

UPDATE:

The Associated Press reported in November 2007 that, after making a campaign stop in St. Thomas, where "more than 100 supporters" attended a "one-hour reception that cost up to $2,300 to attend", Obama "flew to Puerto Rico for a short meeting with Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila and to greet about 100 people at a fundraiser in the colonial district of Old San Juan. Additionally, before the visit Obama had already "collected $37,200 in campaign cash from territory residents who gave amounts exceeding $200, the threshold for itemizing donations, according to the Washington-based Center for Responsive Politics. Smaller contributions do not have to be itemized, and impossible to track."

Robert Friedman wrote March 3, 2008, in the San Juan Star:

Acevedo Vila's boast that Obama incorporated into his recent letter to the governor "almost everything" they discussed during the latter's fund-raising visit to Puerto Rico, including the senator's "strict neutrality" regarding territorial commonwealth, raises questions regarding Obama's capacity to, make serious legal judgments, according to a Puerto Rican Independence Party official.

The PIP chimed in once more on the letter, charging that by supporting commonwealth "on equal footing" with the other status options, Obama showed "a lack of knowledge regarding U.S. constitutional and international law, or his willingness to ignore the law for the sake of political expediency."

...now I wonder just who those campaign contributions were collected for? Is there a possibility a secret indictment is coming down implicating Obama and the reason for the "RUSH" to get Hillary out of the race, so Obama can be named the Dem nominee? If so, how is that going to work out.

Obama will further tarnish the Dem presidential nomination ensuring a loss to the Republicans once again.

[anonymous171]

1. Spitzer. /end of debate.

[enid602]

42. Bingo!

We know (or at least should suspect by now) that DOJ, FBI and even Cheney himself, for Chrissakes) are using intelligence to target the dems. They need to be squeaky clean.

[Tesha]

99. Up here in New Hampshire, Clinton advisor Sidney Blumenthal is pleading guilty...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gx5pX8bdNSydzXyFqt7Sc4sDSCdgD8VJRKGG0

Police: Clinton Aide to Plead Guilty

NASHUA, N.H. (AP) — A senior adviser to Democratic presidential candidate
Hillary Rodham Clinton has agreed to plead guilty to drunken driving after
the arresting officer was ordered to Iraq making a trial on a more serious
charge impossible, police said Monday.

Under the plea, Sidney Blumenthal, a journalist and former White House
adviser to President Clinton, will lose his right to drive for 16 months.

[Maribelle]

109. You compare one misdemeanor to 18 felony counts?

Logic, of course, is not a forte of the Hillary haters mob that are on the hunt for each and every opportunity to bash her.

[Tesha]

114. No. Rather, I suggest that bringing up crimes by associates may be, ahem, "counterproductive".

But counterproductivity is the stock-in-trade of
Hillary's supporters these days.

Tesha

[Maribelle]

116. Or perhaps, just as with Rezko, Obama better start donating more campaign dollars to charity.

Obama's biggest problem with stuff like this is that it takes him far too long with way too many iterations of what really happened in those smoke-filled back rooms.

If he and his supporters would have any hopes in the General Election, Obama needs to consruct his response correct the first time, and not have Chicago newspapers scream out from bold type for the truth from Obama.

[Maribelle]

106. Spitzer has not been indicted. Big difference.

Of course, that doesn't stop the Obama supporters from speculating till the cows come home, following the lead of their string pullers the MSM.

[MadBadger]

2. You are a disgrace to the Democratic Party.

[NYCGirl]

6. The OP's a Democrat? NT

[intaglio]

35. Tellurian is (probably) not a Democrat

The name itself is spawned from the RW science fiction of E E "Doc" Smith and L Ron Hubbard. The site that Tellurian advertises - Hillary is 44 - is a particularly nasty one that specialises in hit pieces on Obama. Person of Tellus is clever enough to avoid overt racism but check back through some past posts that have denigrated Obama.

I could of course be wrong about Tellurian's political affiliations; there seems to be a worship of Hillary that goes beyond mere partisanship into outright adulation and that sort of thing can lead people into all supporting groups they are not at home with.

[Tellurian]

53. Tellurian is a word in the dictionary.. look it up..

[Maribelle]

105. You might need to tell them what a dictionary is, first.

:rofl:

[dionysus]

107. in my thesaurus it means douchebag....

[Maribelle]

111. Perhaps you should be throwing out the thesaurus Obama gave you for free.

[VeraAgnes]

56. Stop it.......stop it now.

Enough of this harassment. You should read your own replies!

[Forkboy]

68. Tellurian deserves every word of it and then some.

[VeraAgnes]

77. Who anointed you as God of DU?

No one deserved anything here but respect from the other......Forkboy, your not using your thinking cap.....Stop encouraging such hate. May I remind you, to treat others as you would want to be treated. There is an Ignore button I found which you could try if this urge to hate does not stop.

[Forkboy]

86. And who anointed you as Nanny of DU?

I treat others as THEY treat others, and Tellurian has pissed on many here, for a long time. Any source is ok if it smears a Democrat she doesn't like. Any comment is ok if it's a supporter of someone she doesn't like. Perhaps you should scold HER instead of defending her.

Lastly, I don't need a lecture from someone who has been here 3 weeks. If you don't like it I suggest YOU employ the Ignore feature.

[VeraAgnes]

97. I believe you do need a lecture and a Nanny!

You are insulting and obnoxious to others so the Ignore function is perfect for bullies like you. I've been here just a few weeks yet I can behave with dignity but you sir, lack any resemblance of having received any civilized training.

[dionysus]

108. here's a little hint junior.... you're backing up a troll, it makes you look like a fool

[SammyWinstonJack]

119. !!!

:thumbsup: :applause:

[Forkboy]

123. Who the fuck cares?

Use ignore then and quit whining.

[Tellurian]

12. First come the insults, then the petulant whine!

It in the news and part of an ongoing Trial involving Obama's close associates.

[Hawkeye-X]

43. Nah. Saying it is too nice for Tellurian.

But FOAD.

[grantcart]

13. does that Hillary is 44 thing that the OP mean

that she has 44 different personalities?

I am counting 9 so far - I don't think I can last to 20

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

It's the number of years she'll end up serving as a US senator in NY. n/t

[Hawkeye-X]

44. or the years she'll be serving..

in prison... :shrug:

[Medusa]

60. Or the number of lies she can tell in five minutes or less?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[emilyg]

65. "My father tended goats".

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. Project much? n/t

[NDambi]

28. How about just a disgrace? Fits much better

[knight_of_the_star]

33. This reply and the replies to it are fail

[VeraAgnes]

37. That is an awful, insulting and vicious statement to apply

a member of this discussion board. Why don't you try again and engage in fruitful discussion instead of empty name calling?

My kids never would get away with such taunting, disrespect to another. I sure hope you apologise. :wow:

[cali]

81. Who the fuck do you think

you are dearie? Shove the lecture.

[NYCGirl]

3. Did you hear? Another hooker is claiming Spitzer as her client! NT

[Tellurian]

14. Is Spitzer a presidential candidate?

[NYCGirl]

17. No, just one of Hillary's superdelegates, and a Super John to boot!

[Tellurian]

19. Obama is married to Rezko, Wright and his fundraisers..NT

[NYCGirl]

21. LOL! You're so bitter.

[NDambi]

29. Your life must really really suck right now...lmao..heavens..you're a bitter bitter bot

[Kber]

36. Obama is a gay polygamist?

[Hawkeye-X]

45. Look again. "Individual H" - Clinton is Rezko's problem, not Obama.

Keep up the good work. You're sinking in Titanic.

[Tellurian]

62. Obama is on the witness list in the Rezko Trial..

Looks to be ALL of Obama's problem. Probably Michelle too.

You better tell Obama, this isn't Chicago.

[NYCGirl]

73. And Hillary Clinton dodged sniper fire in Tuzla.

:rofl:

[cali]

82. Really?

link. Liars suck.

[Hawkeye-X]

83. Show me solid evidence that Obama is on Rezko's witness list

Right the hell now.

Whatever resource you have, show it to me.

Otherwise you got nothin' but your lies.

[Hawkeye-X]

121. Got a witness list to show me in public?

Try again, Tellurian, you stupid liar.

ESAD, GOAT, FOAD.

[Forkboy]

124. Link or slink.

[VeraAgnes]

38. Spitzer is no longer Governor; that makes the

new one the Super-delegate now....Spitzer is irrelevant.

[cali]

84. Ignorant, aren't you?

The new governor's name is Paterson, and he was already an announced SD for Hillary. Oh, and he's got substantial problems of his own.

[TAWS]

4. Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter Spizter

[Tellurian]

31. ptooey! not at all. I just want to prevent a fraud and a crook from gaining the presidency..

Obama is NOT the right man for the job in these times.

[Hawkeye-X]

47. Uh, the crook is the one you're touting right now.

But you're wearing blinders.. so neiiiiiigh.

[Renew Deal]

61. If you want to prevent a fraud and a crook

You should delete that avatar and stop supporting McCain.

[Tellurian]

64. When you come to your senses, we can talk..

[Renew Deal]

66. Projection

There's help for that.

[VeraAgnes]

41. What is your point?

Spitzer is a Democrat and you are suppose to be democrat....but behave like a GOP'er with a band-aide on your cheek. Are you not a democrat? Am I at the wrong board? Did I take a wrong turn?

[Freddie Stubbs]

115. Sptizer is not a super delegate anymore

[NYDem Observer]

5. Talk about desperate

Sorry to say but you've got nothing here.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

7. Maybe some of that campaign money was going to finance Obama's upcoming race war,

right crazy?

[tabatha]

8. It is separation - not seperation.

[Tellurian]

32. Thanks for the kick..

[tammywammy]

9. This is a desperate pathetic attack

One word: Spitzer

[Tellurian]

27. Don't be ridiculous.. or go ahead, if you can't figure it out..

[Mezzo]

10. Hnag on...you mean ANOTHER Obama superdelegate indicted?

wasn't another indicted for perjury in the states too?

[Tellurian]

18. If you have the story, please post it..

Meanwhile, the denial will go on at DU that Obama's character is pristine and his choice of associates leaves one wondering when the other shoe will drop.

[redqueen]

40. Awwww... that DUer got you all excited for nothin.

Awwwwwwwwww.

[Hawkeye-X]

48. Neeiiiiiiighhh!

http://www.horses.co.uk/audio/horse02.wav

[Hawkeye-X]

51. Another blind Hillbot..

[Name removed]

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[endarkenment]

16. Strike breaker?

[Tellurian]

20. Stonewalling? The Truth will OUT! NT

[Hawkeye-X]

52. !

[Jed Dilligan]

22. Let It Sink!

[Chicken George]

58. K

:kick:

[Jed Dilligan]

69. Welcome back to DU

[Chicken George]

71. Thank you!

But was I supposed to be somewhere?

:kick:

[Zynx]

23. This is just as silly as linking Spitzer and Hillary. Stupid stuff.

[ProSense]

24. Superdelegates come and go, but this indictment is more troubling for PA politicians.

Governor of Puerto Rico and Twelve Others Indicted for Election Related Crimes

Casey matched Rendell's fund-raising, but still lost the primary. Soon after, Feldman became one of Rendell's four finance cochairmen.

Providing access

Feldman's ability to deliver $25,000, $50,000, and sometimes $100,000 donations, seemingly with ease, confounded his rivals. The beneficiaries marveled at it.

"He was one of those guys who didn't do a lot of posturing or a lot of talking. He just came in with checks," said Shawn Fordham, Street's campaign manager in the 2003 race.

Flashy - he and Ron White rode chaffeured Mercedeses with their initials imprinted on the license plates - but also intensely private, Feldman rarely talked about his consulting business, political associates say.

In newly filed court documents, Feldman gave some details about his life as a top political dealmaker.

link

[Tellurian]

26. The update in the OP is relevant to the article..

[Hawkeye-X]

54. Naw. this one's for ya..

[ProSense]

74. The people of Puerto Rico donated to Obama.

That's hugh!111!

[MzShellG]

25. Spitzer is the governer of HILLARY'S state....zero degrees of separation. nt

[whatchamacallit]

30. Super Pukelicious

Is what this post is.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

34. You've been smoking too much of that crack Obama sells. n/t

[William769]

39. K&R!

Well it looks like Obama who does not have much of a past sure seems to be setting a pattern for the one he's got now! :rofl:

[MonkeyFunk]

46. I hated the glee over Spitzer getting in trouble

and this is no better.

The demise of a Democrat isn't anything to celebrate, no matter who he or she endorses.

[whatchamacallit]

50. Wow MF!

:thumbsup:

[SeattleGirl]

49. So? You think that Obama can/should police every one of his

supporters?

Do you think Hilary can/should police every one of her supporters?

Give me a freakin' break!

You need to find a better argument against Obama and/or for Hilary.

[DrFunkenstein]

55. How Many Clinton Buddies Have Been Indicted?

Do you really want to go there?

[Dr Fate]

57. Are you quoting your ideological soulmate, Michelle Malkin again?

I guess here is the part where you pretend you never proudly posted and agreed with Michelle Malkin links last week.

Then again, the DLC guys at DU agree with the far-right all the time.

[Renew Deal]

59. lol, so what did Hillary know about Spitzer and his hookers?

You guys are pathetic.

[DrFunkenstein]

63. Bill Clinton Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Woman

And this time, its true!

(as far as I know...)

[Renew Deal]

67. lol

:rofl:

[Jed Dilligan]

70. Let It Sink!

[RBInMaine]

72. Another desperate Slick Hilly post.

[depakid]

75. I don't know why some seem to think corruption in the party is a partisan issue

There's plenty to go around and it's disgusting wherever one finds it.

[Usrename]

76. In case you haven't noticed, the US Dept of Justice is run amok.

To be accused of any political crime by this particular group of thugs is a badge of honor.

You would know this if you were a Democrat.

[totodeinhere]

78. Clinton supporter Spitzer admitted his guilt. But Gov. Governor Anibal Acevedo Vila

has denied any guilt and he may well be another victim of a politically motivated Republican justice department.

[Tellurian]

79. They expect Obama to be the nominee...and not one, NOT ONE of his supporters can defend him..

they can't argue the points of the OP..All they can do is sling mud at the OP or the author.

That defense won't even get you a cupa coffee! I'm not about to defend the scumbucket and apparently YOU ALL can't either by the flimsy irrelevant responses that have no bearing on the topic of discussion, Obama is indefensible!

What does it mean? WE LOSE THE NEXT ELECTION...AGAIN!

I'll have none of it. Neither will any other Hillary supporter. We want a Democratic president and we will work to make it happen!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

80. Tellurian -- No degrees of seperation from delusion.

[Tellurian]

85. Same old tired insults!

and proof none of you can defend your candidate.. So, what good is he as our nominee? He can't even defend himself and he's an attorney.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

88. Brilliant. I would run with that and see if it gains any traction.

[Tellurian]

89. We're not looking for Traction... We're looking for someone who can WIN..He isn't it!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

91. Lol.

:rofl:

Nice to see you DO have a sense of humor! :hi:

[PresidentObama]

87. More smears against Obama brought you by Republican tactic supporters at Hillaryis444

[Tellurian]

90. Smears..? It's in the news.. try again ya fraud!

You got called out the other day by mtnsnake.. slink away, Kerry.

[PresidentObama]

92. Personal attacks+smears= desperation!

[Tellurian]

93. Desperation, you can't think of anything better to say!

Like stale day old bread!

[PresidentObama]

94. Thank god Senator Clinton isn't as desperate as her supporters.

I'm glad I jumped off the Titanic when I did.

You guys are determined to Swiftboat Democrats to try and win.

[Tellurian]

95. You're a dead-ender Kerry..

I hope you plan on holding your breath waiting for Obama to get the nomination.

[PresidentObama]

96. Holding my breath? The math shows he can win the nomination, unlike Senator Clinton.

[Vinca]

98. One degree of separation? No, these are one degree of separation.

Webster Hubbell: Bill Clinton friend and political ally; Hillary Clinton Rose Law Firm partner: embezzlement; fraud; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Whither Whitewater?" October 18, 1995)

Jim Guy Tucker: fraud; three felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Second-Term Stall" February 11, 1997; Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner; one conspiracy conviction (Associated Press "Whitewater Defendant Pleads Guilty" August 28, 1997)

Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: eighteen felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

Susan McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend; former wife of Jim McDougal: four felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Immunize Hale" May 29, 1996)

David Hale: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: two felony convictions of conspiracy and mail fraud (Wall Street Journal "The Arkansas Machine Strikes Back" March 19, 1996)

Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker; two felony convictions (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide; one conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent; fraudulent loans (Wall Steet Journal "Hard Evidence From a Federal Investigator" August 10, 1995)

Robert Palmer: Madison appraiser; one conspiracy felony conviction (Wall Street Journal "Hale Predicts Hillary Conviction" October 21, 1996)

Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president; embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign; two misdemeanor convictions (Wall Street Journal "Arkansas Bank Shot" May 4, 1995)

John Latham: Madison Bank CEO; bank fraud conviction (Wall Street Journal "Smoke Without Fire" January 12, 1996)

John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker; misdemeanor guilty plea; tax fraud (Associated Press "Tucker Pleads Guilty to Cable Fraud" February 20, 1998)

Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of trying to bribe David Hale; is appealing a ten month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of bribery, served fourteen months of a sixteen month prison sentence (The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, "Whitewater Defendants" February 22, 1998)

[Tellurian]

100. Yes, we know Vinca... we lived with it. The Clintons are squeaky clean..

Thanks for posting the remembrances.. There never was a conviction of any of the above charges. This is what we call vetting our candidates. Hopefully, Obama will submit to the same process. Rezko is just a prelim in the vetting process. We have until August to decide a candidate. Theres no rush and no reason on earth Hillary needs to get out of the race!

[Vinca]

101. Those are convictions. nt

[Tellurian]

102. None of them for the Clintons.. in spite of a hyperactive prosecutor..

We has a similar incident in my home state in RI called "Plunder Dome". You find corruption at all levels of municipal and state governments. Google Chicago Corruption and you'll find the same thing. Obama has had very little scrutiny when it comes to Campaign Finance and Federal projects he's been involved in with Rezko. He is already collapsing under the weight mentioned in the OP under UPDATE.. That is the degree of separation between Obama and the scandal. The Clintons` survived and were designated squeaky clean by the Special Prosecutors.

The question is, will Obama? We don't know yet.

[Vinca]

104. The point is, the OP is alleging guilt by association.

If that's guilt by association, what does it say about the Clintons? They've got close ties to more than a dozen people convicted of crimes. I only put down the Whitewater-related convictions. There are also campaign financing convictions and Bill's brother's drug conviction. There are fishy things still going on in Clintonworld, as well. Of course, since the tax returns are still under wraps we can only speculate.

[Maribelle]

118. I think the point is the fundraiser in Old San Juan

and perhaps Obama needs to think about giving the money to charity.

[Tellurian]

122. You do know the difference between apples and oranges...yes?

The Clintons trial and tribulations have been over for 10 yrs. They were NEVER found guilty of any wrong-doing.

Obama's name appeared on a witness list just the other day for an ongoing trial for a 20 yr associate of his charged with a Laundry List of criminal acts...one of which is a charge of breaking Federal Campaign Finance Laws..possible money laundering of money derived from foreign countries. This Trial is expanding exponentially. Meaning, for every rock they look under, 5 more people are indicted with no end in site. If Obama is involved, it wouldn't be guilt by association.. it would be "linkage".. if it is found the common thread throughout the Rezko indictment is Anton Rezko's 20 year association with Obama. (At least this is my understanding of what is going on..) The bottom line is..it's too soon to tell. From others I've spoken to, they're telling me... this is the tip of the iceberg.

If anyone cares to add or correct my extrapolation of what is happening in the Rezko Trial, please feel free to do so here.

[IsItJustMe]

103. Been playing in the gutter lately?

[rufus dog]

110. what a weenie!

[Renew Deal]

112. It pays well.

Some of these people are obvious disruptors. Now you see why they've been run off of Kos and other places.

[MethuenProgressive]

113. Birds of a feather.

Scam voters together.

Obama/Rezko '08!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

117. Rezko too..."show me your friends and i'll show you who you are"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

120. seapartion not seperation