MSNBC just did a segment on "The Fellowship"

[bunnies]

Anyone else see that? Im shocked!

on edit more info: Talked about Hillary criticizing Obama, but how much do we know about her religious practice. Had a guy on who's been researching the fellowship or "the family"... talked about Doug Coe, talked about it being a very RW organization. Talked about him being surprised that Hillary would be involved.

As I said... a very short segment. Hopefully someone will post a you tube.

[Bicoastal]

1. THIS Fellowship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWf3iJjqYCM

[bunnies]

3. No. The creepier one.

Hillarys prayer cell.

[Yes We Did]

36. Really? OMG! And they thought Wright was bad...

Hillary is in some trouble now.

[Tesha]

39. One Leadership Council to find them, and in the darkness, bind them.

[gabeana]

2. What did they say about it? n/t

[Whisp]

4. yay1 about time! any details, was Shuster involved? nt

[dchill]

16. Unfortunately, not Schuster...

some guy named Josh Green. Pretty much described it as a Senate prayer group.

[lisa58]

5. I had it on but wasn't paying attention....

....it will be on again I trust, they usually only cover three stories in a day - over and over again.

[dchill]

6. Shocked about what?

That the Fellowship exists, or that Andrea Mitchell talked about it on TV?

[bunnies]

25. That anyone talked about it!

If this leads to deeper digging... it'll get very interesting.

[movonne]

29. If it is the one where repug women are in a prayer group ...they didn't

want dems in but they let hillary in, but not in the main group or something like that...

[bunnies]

31. It wasnt the womens group.

It was the one with all the nutball RW senators.

[futureliveshere]

7. No TV.. please add some content for us poor people in offices..pretty please.

[Yes We Did]

38. The fellowship is a neo-con prayer group.

With the likes of Santorum and such... It hasn't gotten any coverage.

[slinkerwink]

8. did they tie Clinton to it?

[Ysabel]

21. yes they tied clinton to it...

and mentioned brownback and others but didn't go into great detail...

- edit: typo...

[KittyWampus]

35. Slinkerwink, this is how the media innoculates against a damaging story. They don't want this story

out there. Not in any detail.

The Media thus does pieces to say they 'covered' it. But they either do very sketchy details, paint it in the best light possible or make fun of it.

It's then promptly forgotten. But they can say they covered it.

[slinkerwink]

42. ah, interesting.

[crankychatter]

9. You're kidding

I have to watch MSNBC day two when they finally post it on their website

no cable

which show?

[bunnies]

26. Andrea Mitchells 1pm show. Right at the end. nt

[Blue Diadem]

10. I walked into the room just as it was ending.. darn it.

Can you fill us in a bit? I just heard the part about it being mostly republican and the fellowship accepting Hillary.

[Adelante]

11. What did they say about it, Bunnies? nt

[bunnies]

27. I paraphrased (poorly) in my updated OP.

Just the basics, but its a start!

edit: I spell poorly.

[Adelante]

32. Appreciated

I don't get MSNBC.

[JimGinPA]

12. I Was Listening To Obama's Town Hall - What Did They Say?

K&R

[Johnny__Motown]

13. Thanks, I missed that.. hit rewind on my DVR, watching it now

Decided to record it..

[npincus]

14. saw it.

[pdxmom]

15. I just saw an article over on HuffPost about how Hillary has "declined" to

answer reporters questions about "The Fellowship". So it's evidently okay to discuss Obama's minister, but not her own religious behaviour and connections.

[Catherina]

24. Reporters are asking about it and it was on MSNBC?

:woohoo:

[City Lights]

33. Your post intrigued me so I went to find the article.

For anyone else interested:

A New Divinely Ordained President: The Hand of God or the Silence of the Press?
Posted March 26, 2008 | 10:39 AM (EST)

<snip>

Others who have been involved with the group have broken the code of silence. Sharlet himself went to live with one of the cells of The Foundation and describes the inner workings and ideology of the organization in an article that appeared in Harper's magazine in March of 2003. He writes that The Family is "in its own words, an "invisible" association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N. Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities." Is this why Hillary Clinton has refused requests for interviews about her association with The Family?

What happened to the time when the Democratic Party stood its ground and upheld the separation of Church and State enshrined in the Constitution? And why is a candidate who courts the support of feminists following a male-dominated religious group that separates the sexes? Perhaps this affiliation explains her co-sponsorship (with Rick Santorum) of the Workplace Religious Freedom
Act, which troubled even some Republicans, because the bill protect those refusing to perform the essence of their jobs, like, for instance, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions or doctors who won't refer patients to other doctors to obtain legal abortions. Perhaps this affiliation is why the Clinton campaign, which has declared itself to be ready to throw the "kitchen sink" at Barack Obama to win the nomination, has been uncharacteristically quiet during the recent media feeding frenzy surrounding the recording of Obama's pastor's controversial and offensive speech. Clearly, this affiliation is deeply troubling, and is a personal failing on the part of Senator Clinton and raises the question "What happened to Hillary Clinton?"

It also raises the question "What happened to the press?" We have endured almost eight years of an administration, led by a man who has claimed that he was anointed by God to be president, which has stuffed its ranks with graduates of fourth tier religiously-affiliated colleges and law schools, and led the nation into a conflict it seems to view as a holy war. It is therefore truly astonishing that another candidate for president could completely escape scrutiny by the mainstream media for a longstanding relationship with a religious group such as The Fellowship. Google searches reveal little about the Foundation, and almost nothing about Clinton's association with the group. Despite the long-standing relationship and the clear number of witnesses to her presence at these meetings since 1993, the press has not investigated or informed the public about it. Perhaps her recently (if reluctantly) released First Lady schedule could shed some light on the amount of time she has spent meeting with members of this group. Certainly, reporters could find others who could shed some light on Clinton's role within The Foundation. The issue of Hillary Clinton's affiliation with the group should be the jumping-off point for investigative journalism and a vigorous public debate on the topic of the insidious creep of religion extremism into American politics. If Americans are to be informed citizens, they need the press to do their job. And once this issue receives the coverage it deserves, Americans should mobilize to protect the Constitution and prevent the hijacking of American government by any religious group.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-gans/a-new-divinely-ordained-p_b_93425.html

[City Lights]

17. Details, please!

:wow:

I can't believe what I'm reading!

[Blue State Bandit]

18. WOW! This is the Mother Jones article from last year.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

Andrea Mitchell conducted the interview. They covered the basics, how they started, and who currently attends.

[Emit]

19. Can you give some detail?

I don't get cable and would like to know what they had to say. Thanks in advance!

[Johnny__Motown]

20. I assume this will be up on their website later today..MSNBC has tons of videos like this

[quantass]

22. Interesting...I believe this is Hillary's church involvement -- Facism, Nazis

[Laughing Mirror]

43. That's what it boils down too

They are a secretive group. They believe they are superior to everybody and that they are the chosen ones to rule the world.

Good thing this is getting exposure. People need to know.

[democrattotheend]

23. Finally!

The blogosphere has been buzzing about this for weeks. It's about time the MSM took notice!

[KittyWampus]

37. The media will almost certainly handle this with kid gloves BRIEFLY and then promptly drop it

maybe cover it JUST enough to say they did.

But they'll try and sugar-coat it or make it seem like puppies and rainbows.

[Ysabel]

28. k and r (n/t)...

[Blu Dahlia]

30. is it like skulls and bones? is mccain in it too?

[bunnies]

34. See post #33. nt

[Pisces]

40. I hope Olbermann covers this. Sam Brownback is a member, tells it all

[gateley]

41. This might even win her more Republican support --

that's not good. nt