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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:19 PM Original message |
Recently released tax returns show the Obamas gave almost NOTHING to charity |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. He gave more than I earned.... sorry ...... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. An average of over $21,000/year for seven years is hardly "nothing." |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
110. Barack Obama gave 240,000 to Charity in 2007. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. They weren't recently released. They were recently posted online. More than $130K is not nothing |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. The percentage is the thing. Good people -- like the Clintons -- give a higher one. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. "The Clintons' tax returns will eventually be released." How do you know what they've given? |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I know what they gave when they were in the White House. They released their returns every year. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Where are her 2000 to 2006 returns? n/t |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. *crickets* |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. *dodge* *shuffle* *sidestep* |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. wait wait wait.... lol |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
52. The Clintons are wealthier and can afford to give a higher percentage of their income |
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
69. How will we know if she won't release her tax returns? n/t |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Well, they gave more than you have given to DU....n/t |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
101. Best Post in This Thread! ^5! |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
78. Prove the Clintons give more..... oops...they won't let us KNOW how much.... |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. The Obama's are right along with the average americans. |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
85. How much money someone gives to charity does not show if they are a good person or not |
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mythyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
109. good people ... like the Clintons, ... uh |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. A lie of course. He gave hundreds of thousands in charity to his church. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Church and charity not the same. eom |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. In many cases this is true (like with Falwell, et. al., but NOT in the case of Rev. Wright's church |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. they aren't? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. you can sod off |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
67. Churches and charities are exactly the same |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. Yes, they are. Legally, they are. And in this case, that's what |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. so the richer you are and the more you can give to charity |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Recently released Clinton tax returns show... |
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Nia Zuri (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. he thithed to his church which means a tenth of his after tax income |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. My pastor always told us to tithe on the gross, not the net. |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. No he wants our tax dollars to go to Faith Based Charity |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is this a showstopper? A big deal for you? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Coming up next....Obama's CHARITY SHOCKER!!! |
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Citizen Kang (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. How much did Hillary give, Senor Hillbot? |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. The Clintons have made their returns public many times and soon will do so again. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Obama's returns from have been out there for years, as they become available. What's the hold up |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. It really IS silly season |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. Speaking of donations.... |
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ossman (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Oh snap! |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Amazing isn't it? Who do these "concerned pillars of society" |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. LOL! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
103. Which Bugs Make Noise by Rubbing Their Legs Together? Oh Yeah... CRICKETS! |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. Deliberately misleading headline |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. More Likely, That Is All They Claimed |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. LOL....oh you guys. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oh aren't you precious! You got you a sweet little cookie to |
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MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm not at all surprised! He is, after all, an empty suit. . . |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. It is so easy to put on ignore a person with worthless posts like yours...... |
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ossman (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Promise you'll move to Canada then... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
68. Way to prove her point. |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Ahhh, there, there little one |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. They had loans to pay off, and have children to raise. |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
27. How much have YOU donated to charity in the last 6 years? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Sheesh.... the OP... |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. More than one percent. |
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ossman (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I donated a million billion trillion too? Prove it cheapskate. Donate to DU |
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
30. A little deeper and maybe this explains why |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
34. until recently they were still paying off debts such as for college |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. Who the fuck cares? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I suppose it matters for people who still believe that charity starts at home |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. But why should it matter if they even give to charity at all? n/t |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. After all the brouhaha with Wright and what all? It's still considered no-less than... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't approve of judging others based on how much they give to charity |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. You don't know that *at all*, neither of us do. I've seen BO supporters ignore many things... |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. I just don't see this as a relevant issue in an election. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I think it's that they've given so little. I think if they had given a $100,000 to a soup kitchen... |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Why would I be singing a different tune? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. If nothing matters, if nothing has any impact on your decisions in life... |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. His church is a charity - or did you miss that part? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Of course not, here, from the OP link: "The Obamas' donations to all recipients totaled $2,350... |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Oh I wish the Clinton's would release their returns... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Here, Laurab, allow me to info you as just what pathetic really looks like... |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. Well, I don't KNOW Mooney, but he seems pretty cool... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Color it? Me? No. It's from a website called explodingdog. But thanks for the sentiment... |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Wow. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. From my post above, "Atheist/Agnostic recognize the value of charity." |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. I recall a campaign tactic used against FDR |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
42. First off, this is the "claimed" totals. |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
43. Obama-gives-100's-of thousands-to-charity-gate nt |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
44. How could it possibly apply to Hillary, she won't even release her tax returns. n/t |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. That stuck-up Obama NEVER gave me a penny! And I'm still voting for him! |
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johnnydrama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
50. too bad for the Obama's |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
55. Tell me again why I shouldn't ignore this thread and author |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
57. You guys are really, really reaching. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
59. WRONG. THEY GAVE 6%, after they paid off their college loans, which is HIGHER |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
62. Another day in the life of TMZ, the false outrage channel. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
63. Looks like they gave quite a bit. When will Hillary release her tax return? |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
64. WoW! |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
65. obama supporters wouldnt make threads about a nonissue for hillary |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. $125,000 is nothing? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
71. He has TWO YOUNG CHILDREN who will need money saved for college, wedding, etc. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
93. And their noses deep in the trough |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Wedding average cost $20-30K...not cheap by any means. n/t |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. that's the bride price these days? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. As the father of two girls, trust me. I AGREE! :) n/t |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
72. kick |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. you do realize they had no savings and college debt until the last few years |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
79. So I should base my choice for commander in chief on what percent of income s/he gave to charity? |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
82. Barack has only made money in recent years through his book so he didn't have his. DETAILS HERE... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
86. WHERE ARE CLINTON'S TAX RETURNS?! Schmuck! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
87. Let's compare Obama's avg. of $300+/day to the Clinton tax returns... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
91. I don't report my charitable giving... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
92. I can be certain that they were very generous? |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
94. I haven't given to charity, either. |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
97. This gets you on my ignore list. Really. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
100. This has to be the weakest angle of attack on a candidate that I have ever seen. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
102. So what? You're missing the point - the Clintons' income is in question, not their donation level. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
104. I DONT GIVE A SHIT. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
106. why do you hate al gore and love dick cheney? |
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Bigleaf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
108. Obamacats response? Look into his eyes for one moment. |
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