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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:53 PM
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Clintons to face fraud trial
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At the conclusion of a hearing tomorrow morning before California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz, lawyers for Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul will begin seeking sworn testimony from all three Clintons Bill, Hillary and Chelsea along with top Democratic Party leaders and A-list celebrities, including Barbra Streisand, John Travolta, Brad Pitt and Cher.

Paul's team hopes for a trial in October.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:54 PM
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1. When did we start citing WorldNutDaily as a reliable news source?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:55 PM
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2. World Nut Daily Should Not Be Welcomed Here (nt)
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:55 PM
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3. Z
:boring: Can't you dig up something new? Anything?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:14 AM
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22. Agree - this is nothing - Paul has been found by a court to be a liar - now
Paul wants $17 m because Bill did not promote his Internet company?

Paul claims "Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser."

He has already been found to be a liar about the fund raiser - the case against Hillary he has already lost.

In his past he directed a fraud on the Cuban government of $8.75 million dollars by selling agents of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro nonexistent coffee. The plan apparently also involved sinking the ship that was to deliver the nonexistent coffee to hide the fraud from Castro and, according to TIME Magazine, to defraud its insurer, but the ship was abandoned in Costa Rica and never sunk.

Paul pled guilty to federal conspiracy charges. When his home was raided by the police in connection with this crime, they found cocaine in his garage, and Paul also pled guilty to possessing cocaine with intent to distribute.He was sentenced to eight years in prison for the cocaine charge, and a concurrent three years for fraud; he was paroled after three years. His license to practice law was suspended as a result of the convictions

1983, Paul was caught traveling to Canada using the identity of a dead man; he pled guilty to federal charges of making false statements to customs inspectors. This was a violation of his parole terms from the 1979 felonies, and he went back to jail.

Paul's efforts on behalf of the "Foundation" were derided in the Los Angeles Times, in part because the commission was selling a book that described blacks as "pickaninnies," and slaveowners as "the worst victims of slavery," and in part because Paul referred to the founding fathers of the United States as "39 sweaty old men arguing in Philadelphia", and remarked that most Californians weren't able to understand the 18th century language in the constitution anyway.

Paul pled guilty to the securities fraud charge for he had been indicted in 2001. The government characterized his conduct as causing "losses to the investing public and financial institutions of approximately $25 million". As of February 2007, he had not been sentenced.

Paul's claims have not found traction. An audit by the Federal Elections Commission found that neither Senator Clinton nor her Senate campaign had accepted any illegal funds in connection with the Hollywood fundraiser, though the campaign was asked to pay $35,000 in fines for having underreported the cost of the party. Paul's suit against the FEC was thrown out; his attempt to bring ethics charges against Clinton were rejected, and his fraud charges against Senator Clinton were tossed out in April 2006.

Paul continued to press civil charges against Senator Clinton and former President Clinton for "looting" his business, but the courts refused to allow him to sue Senator Clinton, with the appellate court specifying that her behavior had been "perfectly legal," and allowing her to recoup her legal fees from Paul.

SOURCE: WIKI
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:56 PM
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4. Sorry, stick to reliable sources please, not bizarro world crap.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:56 PM
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5. Freeper
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:57 PM
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6. What?
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 11:58 PM by mac2
I guess that judge and lawyer must be...an Obama supporter for amnesty or a Republican. Fraud set up by a Hollywood person? Imagine that.

Our system is screwed up when they go after the Clintons and not the Bush and Cheneys.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:57 PM
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7. NO Worldnutdaily here, please. NT
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:59 PM
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8. World Net Daily!
Now tell us: what does the National Enquirer say on this topic?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:00 AM
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9. Oh-oh! She's unelectable for the GE with this!
The Republicans that Hillary supporters fear the most will shoot her down...and link her to the limousine liberals!



Peter F. Paul, renaissance man, jack of all trades.


THE GREEN
He co-hosted the 2000 fund-raiser with Tonken.


THE SCANDAL
How did Paul underwrite the gala? According to The Washington Post, by improperly borrowing more than $4 million from Merrill Lynch. Shortly after that was discovered, Paul hopped a plane to Brazil and spent years waging a two-front war: fighting extradition and trying to sue Hillary for underreporting the value of the event. In 2003, Paul was extradited to the U.S., and Clinton agreed to pay a $35,000 fine to the Federal Election Commission.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
9.5. You've gotta give this guy credit for flamboyance. According to The Washington Post, Paul's laundry list of crimes includes a 1970s plot to sell $8.75 million worth of nonexistent coffee beans to Fidel Castro--the plan was to sink an empty cargo ship before it reached Cuba so he could keep the cash. In 1979, he was imprisoned for fraud and cocaine possession, then later violated parole, reportedly fleeing to Canada with a dead man's identity. After his release from prison in the '80s, he served as partner and manager to Fabio.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca...





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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:02 AM
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11. LOL posters 1-8 criticize World Nut Daily as a source, then off you pounce.
:silly:
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:25 AM
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32. Ok this story from the New Republic is ok to post?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:39 AM
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39. Hey FrenchieCat
You need to put the article in a thread by itself.
Recommended title: Hillary Rezkos
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:01 AM
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10. World Net Daily is NOT a reliable source. Come back when you have something from a real news source
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:03 AM
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12. Please forgive me, I'm not as political savy as to what
News sites are not worthy to be sited here.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:07 AM
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WorldNetDaily and NewsMax, for example, are both extremely biased right-wing sites
that can be relied upon to spin any factoids they can dredge up in whatever way seems most derogatory to any Democrat or liberal. Sometimes they just make shit up.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:13 AM
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20. Now I know, thanks
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:11 AM
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19. It's not like it's not in other news too.
Don't sweat it.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:14 AM
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21. Would you happen to know of another news source that has the story?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:21 AM
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30. TPM Cafe Has It
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:28 AM
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34. Thanks I book marked it
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:17 AM
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26. live and learn.. they were easier on you than me, when i did this in the beginning, i have a..
Favorites file of preferred sites, i would find 25 links with the same story verbatim.. and still get shit on.. if i picked the wrong one
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:05 AM
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13. PLEASE! No Worldnetdaily please.... I don't care who it's about... n/t
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:06 AM
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14. Batboy to sue keep_it_real
for neglecting his accomplishments.

He had sex with an alien while swinging from a trapeze, but keep_it_real quoted WND instead of Weekly World News
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:07 AM
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15. and from the same source.....


ELECTION 2008
WorldNetDaily
Obama: 'Outrageously wrong' to reprint Hamas manifesto
Says 'I certainly wasn't in church' when defense of terror appeared on 'Pastor's Page' of bulletin
--WND

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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:08 AM
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16. I'm just tired of seeing Obama hung on the cross of Rev. Wright
And the Clintons portrayed as angels.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:09 AM
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17. WorldNutDaily would just as cheerfully slander Obama as Clinton.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:18 AM
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28. Last week, WND tried to scare white people by claiming
the Black Panthers backed Obama.

lol
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:20 AM
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29. See post 16
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:11 AM
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18. You say the Clintons are protrayed as angels.... ROFFPNMFPLMFAO
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:15 AM
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23. Can you find a better link to this story? World Net Daily is a RW rag.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:16 AM
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24. world net daily = right wing crap. come back when you have something reliable.
:thumbsdown:
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:18 AM
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27. Sorry I did not know; am not the political zelot that you guys are.
I just know I'm for Obama.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:22 AM
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31. Cheers.
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 12:22 AM by JohnnyLib2
The GD :Primaries initiation process is the worst part.

:hi:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:26 AM
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33. The best way to support your candidate, in my opinion,
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 12:26 AM by ocelot
is to promote his positive attributes, NOT to search the Internet for bad stuff about his opponent. I'm an Obama supporter, too, but I'd prefer to leave the anti-Hillary stuff alone.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:29 AM
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35. no harm no foul, then. there's too many people using RW sources lately..
and knowing full well what they were doing.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:17 AM
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25. Gets better. These are Paul's attorneys.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:30 AM
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36. "Your Conservative Voice In the Courts." Nuff said. n/t
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:35 AM
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37. Isn't Worldnetdaily a right wing fascist website? nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:38 AM
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38. World Nut Daily?
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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:45 AM
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40. if you want to "keep it real", keep it real
you wouldn't post headlines that are flat out lies.

testifying in a trial is not "facing trial".

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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:47 AM
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41. Dude next time use Free Republic...
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