Is Rev. Wright trying to sabotage Obama?

[2rth2pwr]

This guy posted this in January!! Is this why Wright kept his videos up at the website?

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/01/is-rev-wright-trying-to-sabotage-obama.html

The more I think about it, the more the following speculation makes sense: that Obama's spiritual advisor, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., is trying to sabotage Obama's campaign.

Rev. Wright has multiple reasons to do it:

1. Spite: Obama dumped him at the last moment from his big spot on national TV giving the invocation at Obama's kickoff rally in Springfield last winter.

2. Glory: Wright craves attention the way Britney Spears does.

3. Ideology: Wright despises the idea that whites would give a black man like Obama an even break. As he told Obama when they first met (p. 283 of Obama's Dreams from My Father):

"Cops don't check my bank account when they pull me over and make me spread-eagle against the car. These miseducated brothers, like that sociologist at the University of Chicago , talking about 'the declining significance of race.' Now, what country is he living in?"

Here's the timeline:

Reverend Wright's amour propre was wounded by Obama dumping him at the last moment from giving the invocation at Obama's nationally televised campaign kickoff last winter in Springfield.

He soon after boasted to the NYT about how when word got out about his trip with Farrakhan to Libya in 1984 was going to eventually cost Obama all his Jewish support.

But, word didn't much get out. The whole Wright story pretty much got shoved down the media memory hole as too hot to handle in these sensitive times.

So, Wright posted on the web a long open letter to the NYT denouncing the NYT for, well, for quoting him correctly.

That didn't make much of a ripple either, so then the Wrights went back to the Farrakhan Well again by giving him their grand prize at a big bash at the Chicago Hyatt Regency on November 2, 2007. Two days later they posted their video tribute to Farrakhan on Youtube.

The media still wouldn't touch that either for two months, but eventually it came out and Wright is now getting the attention he feels he deserves.

If this story gets buried again, Wright is going to keep pulling stunts like this. If he keeps to the same schedule for his annual fund-raising gala, it will be the Friday night before Election Day 2008. Who will he give his lifetime achievement award to this time? Col. Gadaffi? Ahmadinejad? O.J. Simpson? Willie Horton?

Perhaps he wants to turn himself into the Willie Horton of 2008, and his name goes down in history associated with the conventional wisdom about how white racism kept the Democrats from winning in 2008.

I bet that Wright doesn't want Obama to win -- that would disprove his whole world view that whites will never give a black man an even break. He wants Obama to go down in flames to prove he was right, and he wants to be the torch. Just as the conventional wisdom has become that white racism cost Michael Dukakis the Presidency in 1988 over Willie Horton, he wants to go down in history in conjunction with the next myth -- that white racism cost Obama the Presidency or Vice-Presidency over Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.


crazy (like a fox) Uncle Wright!

[FrenchieCat]

1. Boy......so many assumptions and speculations.....

and I so disagree with your conclusion, till it ain't even funny.

But spin if you must, everyone else is doing it.

[ClassWarrior]

36. LET IT SINK.

NGU.

[jlake]

2. No. Rev. Wright is simply religiously insane.

[FrenchieCat]

3. Actually he isn't............

and apparently, you know nothing about him, except for what you watched on your favorite channel, Fox and the other corporate entities.

[jlake]

4. Yes, he is.... or he IS trying to take Obama down. You decide.

[FrenchieCat]

8. I don't have to decide, I know....

Hillary Clinton and by extension, Bill Clinton both were familiar with Rev. Wright. Not only did they know of him, i.e., his reputation (his 3 presidential commendations from LBJ), but they actually knew him (prior to Wright being vilified by the media).

There is that picture of Wright at Clinton's Prayer Breakfast (now part of my sig line), on the occasion of Bill Clinton repenting publicly for his sins called "caught lying about Monica Lewinsky". It appear that Jeremiah Wright was a powerful and respected enough figure to have been included on the guest list, as well as being the recipient of a thank you note for his attendance.

The event, in where Wright was in attendance, was without any doubt Bill and Hillary Clinton's greatest hour in need, politically as well as personally. Ironically, there is strong evidence that Rev. Wright was sitting next to Hillary Clinton during that dinner. If that is the case, my analysis is that much more compelling.



In sum, while Rev. Wright was there for the Clintons in their hour of need, they, in turn, were more than willing to sit on the sideline and watch Wright be taken down when it benefited them the most. More telling is Bill Clinton's remark once the photo of him and Wright was published, in where he knifed Rev. Wright one more time by dismissing their acquaintance by his retort; I, Bill Clinton shake thousands of hands.

[jlake]

12. You are really stretching. Obama had a 20 year intimate relationship with Wright.

I am sure that Hilly & Bill have rubbed elbows with more than a few unsavory characters -- but Obama's poor judgment takes the cake.
If Rev. Wright was my "moral compass", I'd be lost...... and it appears Obama is as well.
I wish you well. I know that the general election campaign will be very hard for you.
I know that the primaries have been hard for me.
We both passionately believe in our candidates and have been unnecessarily vicious at times.

:hug:

[JoFerret]

28. That's the difference

Wright in a photo-op at that disgusting praying fest Clinton put on is quite a difference.

[Life Long Dem]

17. I'd like to hear Wright's side of his relationship with the Clinton's

I wonder if Obama wanted help in this from Wright?

[2rth2pwr]

22. Is it me? I don't understand your question, what are you saying?

[DerekJ]

25. Jlake how many times, did you flush your credibility down the drain.

And by the way do you ever sleep? or does someone take over your smearing job when you are not awake.

[jlake]

30. ..................

:hug: You need it.

[Recursion]

34. Rev. Wright is studied in preaching classes nationwide

By people of all denominations. He's one of America's best living preachers.

[jlake]

35. And he is clearly religiously insane.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. This is offensive. Rev. Wright is a good man. Obama treated him shabbily

by drawing unwanted national attention on his ministry which is devoted to people many of whom suffer the lingering effects of oppression which is much like the loss you get from death. One of the stages is anger. His sermons help people work through their natural anger at what this country has done and is doing to them. The goal is not hatred. The goal is acceptance of themselves as complete human beings and compassion for themselves and others. Read Malcolm X. Anger is a necessary stage for many people.

Wright told Obama that he should distance himself from the Church. Obama made a foolish choice and now Wright is having to pay for it. He is scheduled to receive an award at the Brite School of Religion here in Fort Worth associated with TCU for his life work, but because of the political controversy, now the school wants to move it.

If I believed in God, there are many times in my life when I would have said "God damn America". This country absolutely sucks. And its victims need to know that it is their oppressors who are wrong, not themselves. They need to be absolutely clear on that.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Do you have the transcript of this conversation where Wright tells

Obama anything? Could you provide it to the rest of us?

[lligrd]

6. Actually, His Tapes Prove That His Statements Were Taken

out of context. As well as proving his intelligence and compassion. No wonder Obama likes the guy. Maybe you should actually listen to a full sermon instead of just Faux News' outtakes.

[2rth2pwr]

16. I did listen to the sermon including the reference to the ambassador, but

it changes nothing. Wright wasn't just reading someone elses words he was using them as a springboard,

as validation for his own feelings.

[lligrd]

20. If Wrights Springboard Was America Being Wrong

count me in. Wright was right and you know it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[2rth2pwr]

21. ashamed of myself? what the ..? first you say the video was all out of context

implying that this whole controversy was false because he really doesn't feel that America's

chickens were coming home to roost, now you're implying that he did mean it and if I don't agree

I am doing it against what I know to be true.


is this really what you're thinking?


Seriously, please respond.

[lligrd]

23. I Stick By What I Said, Wright Was Right

If you disagree, please let me know why and to what, if you wish to actually debate a truth.

[2rth2pwr]

29. I recommend that Obama use "Wright was Right" as his new

campaign slogan. The "yes we can" thing is getting stale.

[woodsprite]

27. Our minister said as much the other day

She's been to hear him preach and been on committees with him where she was before. This is a mainly white. liberal. presbyt. church where the average age is approx 55.

[Hoof Hearted]

7. If Wright CARED about Obama he would be available for comment.

If it's bullshit politics, he will remain hidden.

[MADem]

10. He's planning on giving some sermons in TX. Maybe he'll say something there to clarify.

It's the outspoken and recent HAMAS support that is gonna be problematic, I think.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Why? So the fonky media whores can play "Gotcha" some more.....

and give more fodder in order for the broke and dying Hillary Campaign to rise up from the ashes, like she had hoped the first time?

[2rth2pwr]

18. Is that a contraction of funky and honky?

calling Dr Freud..

[cooolandrew]

13. Excentuate the positive elimnate the negative. Liberal radio and Olberman show the way.

We must support liberal radio to overcome the nonesnes not theis time not after Gore.
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[2rth2pwr]

19. Olberman positive? Last night he was saying that Hillary's campaign

was involved in passportgate and that this was bigger than watergate.

[lligrd]

24. Excentuate? You'll Have To Translate, I don't Speak Bushese. nt

[ima_sinnic]

26. Accentuate. And the poster is not a bushy, he or she appears to be on our side (nt)

[sandnsea]

14. I alerted

This is no different than Mena or Vince Foster garbage and I'm sick of reading it on this board.

[anniebelle]

15. For a preacher, I find him right on most of his points.

I can see how a redneck, white person, probably would not like his assumptions about how this country is not really living up to its self-proclaimed "god's country" image. Growing up in the 50's and 60's, in the south, I see exactly where he's coming from. Now, I'm about as white as they come in this country, but also a woman, so I see where his bitterness comes from. We've been fed all these grand and glorious lies about how we brought god (whose god we are still at odds about) to Amuraka. The American Indians probably don't agree with that revisionist history we're so good at. I truly hope we will have a discussion over where this country stands on several profound subjects. Race is just one of those horrific skeletons we keep shoving further to the back of the closet.

[ClayZ]

32. I wish people would listen to his WHOLE sermons.

He is pretty amazing. I have listened to 3 so far and I am going back for more.

[Catherina]

33. Jane and Johnny had no intention of voting for a Black man anyway

so it's really funny to hear their outraged screams that Obama and Wright aren't groveling and apologizing to their satisfaction.

I haven't heard Wright say one thing I disagree with except for the AIDS thing and even there, I'm not going to vouch for the US Government. I see exactly where he's coming from and thinks it speaks highly of the AA community's love for America that we're able to talk about the problem without hating this country and the children of the people who did that to us. We deal with it with forgiveness. It's time for this country to own up, apologize, forgive itself for the past itself and MOVE ON. When we said "WE SHALL OVERCOME", it meant everyone- Black, Jewish, poor, women and alike!

[Laura S.]

31. Rev. Wright

Hmmmm....it is an interesting thought....
But why would he purposely try to hurt him, even though they may have some different ideas...they are supposedly very close for the passed 20 years or so...
I do find it very interesting though, that Wright was boasting that he would ruin the Jewish vote for Obama...:wow: I must admit, it does sound fishy...