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Danzo Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:59 AM
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Two Recent FactCheck.org Items In Hillary's Favor, And One That Disproves Obama
The premise that her campaign darkened an image of Obama's skin appears to be a myth:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html

Also, FactCheck states that Hillary deserves plenty of credit, both for the passage of the SCHIP legislation and for pushing outreach efforts to translate the law into reality. (This is further proof that she NEVER gave up on reforming health care, as I stated in another thread):

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/giving_hillary_credit_for_schip.html

Obama stated a falsehood. He stated that 90% of his donations came from donors who gave $50 or less. Perhaps he just misspoke:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_obama_correct_to_say_90_of.html
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:17 AM
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1. On point number 3, it sounds more like a misspeak.
after reading the entire blurb it's pretty clear that he meant to say donation, instead of donor. For example, I have probably given in total at this point $200. But that consists of one $100 gift and a few for $25.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:25 AM
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2. Clinton Seems To Not Be A Major Source For The Legislation
From your link:

"Adam Clymer: On balance, I would say of course Kennedy and Hatch deserve most of the credit, but Hillary helped by making sure the Administration stuck with the $24 billion in conference. She didn't write the legislation but she played a significant role in getting it passed."

Looks like her role was not insignificant, but neither was it substantial. She basically helped to convince her husband that Kennedy's and Hatch's legislation should become law, but was not a force on creating the bill.

She believes that she's a driving force behind the bill simply because she helped convinced her husband to act.. like a Democrat.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:43 AM
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3. I guess this makes the FactCheck people racist thugs.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:59 AM
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4. Thanks for this.
Very interesting.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:48 AM
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5. Thanks, This Should Have More Recs : ) (nt)
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:50 AM
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6. Recommended
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:57 AM
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7. 90 % of his donations is different from 90 % of his money. Which is it.
if 99 people gave $1 and 1 person gives 1000, 99 % of his donations will be less than $ 10, more than 90 % of his money will come from 1 person, so the factcheck does not applie to the question.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:05 AM
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8. I heard him say 90% at $100 or less
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:19 AM
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9. as to the first point
they darkened the whole image, which apparently is standard in an attack ad. The site admits that they do not know the motivations, and cannot know what was done in Photoshop. They do say the entire ad was darker.................

there is just a lack of evidence of motive...............

The face is also broader, and they don't even discuss that. Of course the whole video is probably broader, but no reason to have the picture broader on the Clinton website.
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