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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:08 PM
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Who will Kerry pick for VP ?
Opinions ? Ideas ? Suggestions ? Inquiring minds want to know.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:12 PM
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1. Edwards, I hope
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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7. I'm with Edwards more than ever
He compliments Kerry in so many ways, espeically in the dynamism department.

:headbang:
rocknation
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:13 PM
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2. The man behind the curtain.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:13 PM
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3. No Brainer: Wesley Clark
He just simply has it all.
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dedhed Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:13 PM
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4. CLARK! CLARK! CLARK! n/t
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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5. i like Clark and Edwards...
but i hope Kerry takes a serious look at Virginia Governor Mark Warner... not a huge, huge name, but he'd be a great selection.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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6. The people's choice: John Reid Edwards.
There are only about a dozen threads on the board right now...

Kerry/Edwards "04. And beyond...
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:18 PM
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10. You do need a Southerner to win for down here.
You really do.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:19 PM
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12. DING DING DING! Chimpymustgo, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Thu May-06-04 12:29 PM by rocknation
Whoever he picks HAS to be a viable frontrunner for 2012. Edwards will be the right age by then, and will have the experience and knowledge to step into Kerry's shoes. Then Edwards repeats the process by picking a similar VP (I've been hearing a LOT of nice things about this Obama guy). We have to think ahead--that's how the Repubs have gotten as far as they did.

:headbang:
rocknation
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:34 PM
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15. Yes we do have to think ahead.
We have to think how to make sure they cannot get out of a paper printout of each vote that can be legally counted. For instance if the electronic voting machine count is different than the hand count, we will have to go with the hand count. They are trying their asses off to make sure the votes cannot be recounted.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

http://www.blackboxvoting.com

If they pull this off, they will have total control. Not in my lifetime. I hope I can inspire some people here.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:50 PM
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22. Thanks rocknation! What's the prize? Money? New car?
Or your unflinching respect for the rest of the hour?

LOL.

We do need to cover all the bases - now and beyond...
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:07 PM
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39. Do you think Edwards will have learned anything by then?
:puke:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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8. Edwards or Clark.
And the smart money says Edwards.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:53 PM
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18. Clark
I consider myself smart and I don't "think" Edwards
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:44 PM
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20. 'Smart money' is a gambling term.
Sen. Edwards is the odds-on Vegas favorite, even if one happens to prefer Gen. Clark. I'd be entirely happy with either one. :shrug:
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:17 PM
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9. Edwards is probably in the top three
for candidate choices. I hope he makes an announcement soon. I think the sooner the VP candidate is out there on the campaign trail the better, imo.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:18 PM
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11. Kerry will pick Edwards...He should pick
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:22 PM
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13. Dick Gephardt
because he believes that the election will be decided by a few select states and Missouri is one of them. He also values Gep's long time service in congress and to the party. I don't like it, but I think it will be Gep.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:27 PM
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23. Most likely Gephardt
Or Vilsack.

Kerry stands the best chance of widening his lead over Bush in the Midwest and Great Lakes states, some of which have the largest number of electoral votes.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:27 PM
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14. Choosing Clark would improve public's perception of Dems
for a generation, as people who actually fight when their country needs them--as opposed to just sending other people. Heroes, not zeroes.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:36 PM
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16. what do you mean by that?
Our democrats (with the exception of Clinton) have served in the armed service. Even George McGovern was a fighter pilot in WW2 and decorated. Carter was in the Navy and Gore served in Vietnam. Democrats have nothing to apologize for regarding service to this country.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:44 PM
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17. Correct, but public perception has not caught up with reality
is what I'm saying. Having two prime examples in top spots in this administration will do wonders for our image. They don't need to apologize for anything, they just need more examples out front and center.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:00 PM
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19. I think it will be Clark, at this point
He disappeared from the shortlist for a while, but I think his recent reemergence on the shorter list is a telling indicator.
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wubbathompson Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:46 PM
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21. Biden
That guy can chew threw metal and he is really solid on Foreign Policy, something which is highly relevant for this election
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:49 PM
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25. Sounds like Clark, except...
Clark has hands on experience.
Clark's socio-economic policies are more progressive.
We wouldn't lose a senate seat.
Clark appeals to more demographic and geographic voting blocs.
He doesn't have hair plugs. (hehe...no offense to the follicly-
impaired-cum-cosmetically-improved).
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wubbathompson Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:12 PM
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26. No offense taken
LOL
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:22 PM
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28. They're getting better with that stuff all the time!
Welcome to DU, wubbathompson. :hi:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:46 PM
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24. I'm hoping either 1) Clark or 2) Edwards...
IMO, with world events consuming the media and thus the public's mind, Clark is the wiser choice of these two.

But I do like Edwards a lot, and I will not be disappointed at all if the nod goes to him.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:13 PM
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27. Clark.
PLEASE!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:41 PM
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29. I think it will be Edwards or
Bayh
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:50 PM
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30. Gov. Kathleen Sebelius.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:58 PM
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31. The one who will help him the most, GEN. WESLEY CLARK
N/T
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:58 PM
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32. Wes Clark for VP to gain......
Edited on Thu May-06-04 05:00 PM by Frenchie4Clark
The "other" veterans' votes...the one that prefer neither Kerry nor Bush

For the Security Mom votes (formally know as Soccer moms)

For the Nascar Dad votes .....
"but support from women is not Kerry's biggest problem. Closing the male side of the gender gap is."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4863243 /

for the Left who were against the war

for the Right who wouldn't mind one that voted for Republicans in the past....on the ticket.....to make it OK for them

for those who understand the "mano mano appeal to handle the terror and the Iraq war issues and more" theme that can define Kerry's run during this post 9/11 election...

For those southerners that would like the south appeal but with solid national security credentials.

for the majority who consider Clark's angular good looks at par with Edwards soft cute look in the charisma dept.

for those who understand that "Clark is a bad campaigner" is a meme put out by the media to justify the fact that they ignored him during most of the primary....after smearing didn't work as well as they had hoped.

For those who want no surprises and prefer a VP who has already been vetted by the press (was during the primary) and by a Republican Congress (in 1997 in confirmation for the fourth star).....as opposed to a Vp candidate who was given "kid" glove treatment during the primary.....or as yet to be vetted by the media.

For those not buying the majority of the media's simplistic wrongheaded version of what an effective running mate needs to bring to the table.....

For those who understand that John Kerry can handle and spread the message on the Economy, the deficity, jobs and education fine (as his polling numbers confirm)....but needs more representation on his differenciation from Bush on War on Terra and the War in Iraq.

For those who enjoy refreshing honesty in their attack pitbull VP candidate.

For those who understand understated and humble "Real Star" power when they see it.

For those who have common sense.....






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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:19 PM
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33. He'll surprise everyone with someone like Howard Dean
or Tom Brokaw or Robert Redford.



I'm hoping for Dean but will be satisfied with Clark or Edwards.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:20 PM
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34. I'm firmly for Ed Rendell
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:23 PM
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35. What if he picked Kucinich?
Or Willie Nelson! That may cancel out the Nader factor.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:54 PM
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36. Olympia Snow
(Now there's a new one!)
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:17 PM
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37. Gephardt
I believe that Kerry will determine that he has better chances in states like Missouri, Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, etc., than he has in the South.
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:02 PM
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38. Wes Clark for VP
Why General Clark is the best choice for VP:

Polls show Kerry ahead of W on domestic issues, behind on national security. Overall a dead heat. W may creep up domestically as economy improves, so Kerry needs to siphon away some of W's support on security. This election WILL be about national security and terrorism because W will make it that way, and look at the headlines from Iraq dominating the news. Bush has already put Kerry on the defensive
questioning Senate votes and the "ribbon-throwing" incident. All Bush has to do is neutralize Kerry on war/terror, and he keeps his lead.
Enter Wes Clark: Clark can stand up and say, "Vietnam was a disaster, but I stayed in the military afterwards to build the great all-volunteer Army we have today. Sen. Kerry said "Send me to Vietnam" and served with great courage and honor in that war. Sen Kerry criticized that war afterwards, and I consider that dissent an act of patriotism, for he had the nation's best interests at heart. Sen. Kerry backed up that service by serving his country for these many years in the Senate, including not forgetting Vietnam as he worked with
Sen.McCain for years to retrieve our POW's.
I am proud to stand with Sen. Kerry, a man I consider to be one of the great patriots of our time". (As he wraps himself in the flag and talks about winning the only war NATO ever fought, this man who is one of the most decorated military heroes in U.S. history). This man can bring in military and ex-military votes which NO other VP candidate can do,and he is"squeakyclean."
There are many other areas where Clark
complements Kerry:
1.Ability to step into the Presidency if necessary. Clark has a career of military and diplomatic leadership unparalled. Yet he was responsible for the everyday lives (schools, healthcare, safety, career advencement, etc.) of those under his command.
2. Agreement on issues: Kerry and Clark are very closely in agreement
on Foreign Affairs / Homeland Security issues as well as on Free
Trade, and most domestic issues.

3. Campaigning against Bush: Clark has demonstrated, both during his campaign and since endorsing Kerry, that he is both loyal to Kerry and is a tireless campaigner against Bush. Clark has "fire in his
belly" on defeating Bush. Clark can take on Bush on all issues, especially the issues
where Bush would like to think he is strongest.

4. Helping to win Electoral Votes - Clark should help to win all the Swing States that
Al Gore just missed winning and retain the Blue States that Bush would like to have. Most candidates are mentioned because they might win one state for Kerry, Clark could help in ALL of the above swing states. This is because he is an Arkansas Southerner who also proved to be popular in the Southwest and among Hispanics and
American Indians. In fact, with General Clark's military background and
"All American" image he has more popularity than most democrats such as
John Kerry in all parts of the country where Republicans tend to be popular. With his Military Supreme Commander status, if he could get just 10% of military families to vote Democratic (who would otherwise
vote Republican) this could change the outcome in a number of states. Although Wes is now a very progressive Democrat, his past background still makes people feel secure, like Republican candidates. His
comfort with Religion also helps. Both Kerry and Clark have a long history of using guns (despite being pro gun control. Taken together, Arkansas (and Tennessee) can be Democratic again, West Virginia (which lost in 2000 due to NRA campaign), New Mexico and Arizona should go for Kerry (with increase in Latinos) and Florida (with large conservative, military population
in Northern Florida). Also Ohio, Louisiana, Oklahoma, New Hampshire and some Midwestern Red States should be in play. Pennsylvania should remain Democratic with Clark's appeal to Reagan Democrats. Clark has broad National appeal, which means that he could campaign with success wherever Kerry felt he was needed.

5. Taking on Dick Cheney: There will be a VP debate. Only Clark can face Cheney and cite Pentagon "inside information" about how Cheney decided from the beginning to go to war with Iraq. On all military related issues, Clark will be more believable than Chaney to millions of swing voters.

6. Raising funds for Kerry: This is very important to Kerry since Bush has raised so much money. It was Wes Clark who raised almost $9 million in January alone, pre-matching funds. This was about 2 million more than his closest rival. In the 5 months of his campaign, he raised about as much as Dean as well as with Internet
contributions. While Dean started the Internet dominance, Clark continued it with equal success and still has the best web site and Blog Community around. Since Dean isn't suitable as Kerry's VP, Clark is the best choice to attract the "outsider" type people who support Dean. Clark was often the 2nd choice among Dean supporters and their 1st choice for VP under Dean. In summary, with Clark as VP choice, there would be BY FAR the largest fundraising boost to the Kerry campaign as well as a likely union with Howard Dean and his supporters. Lets also remember that Clark was the most popular with the wealthy and powerful Hollywood crowd.

7. Mutual respect: Since Kerry and his VP choice will probably be together for months, getting along with mutual respect is very
important. They have to be able to share each other's secrets. As was demonstrated in Wisconsin, their mutual respect for each
other's careers is apparent.

8. The Superhero Ticket - Kerry and Clark already have a name for their ticket that no one else can claim. (Or "Two heroes, one mission.)" This alone will be worth millions in free advertising. Undecided voters are easily swayed by these powerful slogans.

9. Bringing Enthusiasm and full Clinton support: Whereas John Kerry is the Party's best choice for President, his supporters are
mostly there to defeat Bush. Wes Clark though, has the most loyal supporters, because of Wes, besides the desire to defeat Bush. Kerry could use that enthusiasm. Besides Hollywood support, a Wes Clark as VP pick would bring stronger enthusiastic support from President Bill
Clinton (as well as Hillary).

10. Appeal to the Church going Americans and Patriotism-Wes Clark has a background that includes several faiths. He is the "most comfortable" of all the major VP contenders with "God" and "American Patriotism". The Flag really means something to him. This is why he is a danger to Republicans in all parts of the country. He still is Karl Rove's worst Nightmare.

14. Is VP the best position for Clark? : Some would say that Clark should be saved for Secretary of State or National Security Adviser. However, if we waited, it is very possible that Kerry would lose a
close election. Additionally, as VP, as long as Kerry respects Clark, he could be used as a 2nd Secretary of State, Defense and Homeland Security. As shown by Cheney, a VP can be very powerful when they are
strong and respected in National Security issues.

Please, for the good of the country, select
Wes Clark.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:03 AM
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42. Hi xkenx!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:01 AM
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40. Robert Redford... I like the idea
Ever since we got sucker-punched by Arnold out here in CA, I've been thinking it might come to this: It's not bad enough that the one with the most campaign money wins....We now must now run celebrities for public office if we want to compete.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 10:04 AM
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43. Hi OnionPatch!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 02:27 AM
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41. Edwards by far...n/t
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