As an Obama supporter, I don't like the innuendo directed at Clinton re: Passport Breach

[Bigleaf]

I've been highly critical of Clinton during this campaign for various reasons but the truth is we know fuck all about this breach at this point and it's wrong to point fingers right now. Don't get me wrong. There needs to be an investigation right away by an independent body (not a Bush hack). Until we have that independent investigation, I'm not going to speculate on why these 3 individuals did what they did. I personally don't believe the Clinton campaign is involved in any way though, that's just my opinion.

[ananda]

1. Agree, I mean..

.. it's not as if the Reeps have an agenda.
Perish the thought. lol

[mrreowwr_kittty]

2. Yeah, my gut instinct is to lay the blame on the GOP.

Occam's razor and all...

I can see them just wanting to find whatever dirt they can on whichever Dem poses a threat to them. I'm sure they are assiduously digging up dirt on Sen. Clinton as well.

[zulchzulu]

3. I agree... let's let this play out for a day or so at least...

You have to give the Clinton campaign the benefit of a doubt on this... it's just too far to go for a presidential campaign. If anything, it might be an RNC link somehow.

[murielm99]

29. But it needs to be kept in the news.

Everyone needs to be reminded that we need a thorough investigation of this.
Don't let the story die.

They need to be reminded as well that Bill Clinton and Perot also had their passport information snooped. That investigation was nothing but a whitewash, as far as I am concerned.

[blonndee]

4. I agree. nt

[rodeodance]

5. Thank you--

[easy_b94]

6. Welll........

the bushes, and clintons, all hang in the same circles, and have similar agendas for the endgame.

I am just saying

[rodeodance]

9. try keeping it locked up --The OP made a good point. thanks

[JimGinPA]

7. Honestly, I Don't Think They Are Either...

But it's been fun seeing the HRC fanatics flummoxed like this after a week of the bullshit pastor flap.

[LostinVA]

12. Flummoxed? I just found info and posted it

And, I'm not a fan, I'm a supporter. Not snarky, I promise. The whole "fan" thing re: a politician is strange to me.

[JimGinPA]

27. I Wasn't Referring To You Specifically And I Have Made The Same Point About The Term "Fan"...

I meant fanatic, as in single-minded partisanship.

:thumbsup:

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. You are right, given who has the contract

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5186347&mesg_id=5186347

[Tatiana]

10. It quite clear (to me at least) that the GOP is setting Hillary up as the instigator of this breach.

Beyond that, I'm just not sure. I really want to believe she wouldn't do something like this, but I'm not confident in that belief.

[Teaser]

21. It's highly unlikely her campaign would do this

the odds of getting caught, given another administration is in power, are too high.

That said, let it play out, follow the leads. It'll lead somewhere, even if its just a few fools playing with computers.

[chascarrillo]

34. Yeah, there's not a history of Clinton doing this.

Oh. Wait.

[Drachasor]

11. Agreed

[Patsy Stone]

13. Agreed

I don't see it.

[BlueIdaho]

14. Amen

and god save us from the partisan hacks on both sides in this festive primary season.

[juajen]

15. Thanks for your voice of reason. It is very appreciated by this Hillary

supporter. I promise I will give it back in defense of Obama when the opportunity arises.

[Kool Kitty]

16. I don't think Hillary had anything to do with it.

The last time this happened (to Bill Clinton), it happened under Poppy Bush. This time, it happens under Poppy's son, Dipshit Bush. Coincidence? I don't think so. Like Father, like son. (Or any other cliche you care to insert here.) The Bush Crime Family=Idiot's Delight.

[UALRBSofL]

17. With the passport thing I can neither say she is guilty or not

Politics makes people do crazy things as you can see in this election cycle.

[Muttocracy]

18. ditto nt

[FrenchieCat]

19. we don't know enough for "implication"......

although using the word "typical" and "snub" sets the blog world and then the news on fire.

[Forkboy]

20. Agreed.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

22. Yep - wouldn't think that too many Clinton supporters work for the State Dept.

n/t

[DJ13]

23. I remain uncommited whether Clinton was responsible

But I cant rule it out.

Oh, and for those going on about "its the GOP that uses contractors", remember that Penn represents Blackwater too.

[cottonseed]

24. Of course.

That was my first, and really only thought. I can admit however that I was in some crazy way relieved in that it may finally move us past this pastor garbage for a few days.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

25. I absolutely agree.

[johnnydrama]

26. agreed

It's stupid. All of us should be horrified by this.

[gravity]

28. I agree

And trust me, there is nothing I would like more than a scandal like this to get Hillary out of the race.

[dailykoff]

30. Unfortunately a "challenge" released by her own campaign

suggests a connection:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/clinton-camp-to-obama-yo_n_91156.html

[phrigndumass]

33. That seems to NOT be a connection, imo ...

Other threads have hashed that one out.

[dailykoff]

35. I've only seen corroborating information

like the link between one of the spies and the Clintons.

[jillan]

31. Thank you Bigleaf.

k/r

[phrigndumass]

32. Rec'd and agreed

[crankychatter]

36. It's newsworthy

I don't know if it was the youtube poster or MSNBC with the text "Clinton Campaign Linked to Passport Breach"

Because that is inaccurate.

I changed it when I inadvertantly put up an unnecessary thread on the subject to

"Clinton Appointee"

Which IS ACCURATE... that doesn't mean she AUTHORIZED it, it only means she IS linked to the event by being in the chain of command... close to the activity, at the time.

MY opinion is there will be no proof of Clinton Campaign complicity in this matter.

It's way too lurid and sleazy

[grantcart]

37. I agree

[bowens43]

38. it wouldn't be the first time she has been involved in this sort of thing.

let's not forget the FBI files

[cali]

39. I share your opinion

There is no real reason to believe the Clinton campaign is involved in this.

[Sulawesi]

40. Yes, but don't dismiss the possibity either...just find out what happened.

[wildeyed]

41. I don't either.

It is offensive to speculate about that without proof. Besides, if it was tied to the Clintons, they never would have covered it up in the first place. Don't you think they would have put it out there right away if they thought it might hurt her?

[DemGa]

42. As a Clinton supporter I fully expected it --- NT

[tekisui]

43. Smells like rover.