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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:38 PM
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Careful Mr. O...My grandmother is a "typical white person"
that is a racist remark...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:39 PM
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1. 'Way to confuse generosity with racism.
Good going! Carry on.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:04 PM
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36. Now that's just downright hilarious! Generosity? Thanks for the laugh!
First he throws her under the bus to save his own ass.
Then he uses her to insult an entire ethnic group.
Then his spinmeisters use his idiotic comment to insult an ethnic group AND an age group.


Generous indeed.

:spray:

:yourock:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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49. So you buffoons really believe he didn't talk to his granny about
this and get her okay? She loves him to death and he, her. My grandma was a racist. Doesn't mean I don't love her but if anyone asks or I can make a point about loving someone doesn't mean you have to overlook shit, I will.

Go back and try and read what he says. People are complex. They have good and bad. You can love them even if you don't support all their views and beliefs. God. He was speaking to you and you don't get it.

Take your granny-hating bs elsewhere. All you are exposing is your inability to understand what he said.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:16 PM
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56. funny but he had to have in interpreted by his gurus...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:39 PM
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2. Oh fuck
not another stupid piece of shit post trying to turn Obama into a racist. You people are beyond disgusting.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:40 PM
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4. Any way they can spin it to try and win.
They're republicans at heart.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:41 PM
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7. Yep. And guess who this person got their cue from...Joe Scarbrough!
With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans!!
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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19. cali I just heard Obama on MSNBC
They played the soundbite and he said "My grandmother is a typical white person". I stopped in my tracks and put my hand over my mouth in shock. And no I am not a racist, but it shocked me.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:47 PM
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25. way to be a unifier... what happened to the blue state/red state speech?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:47 PM
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27. It was inartfully said
but racist? What nonsense. Did you think Joe Biden was a racist for his comments? How about HIllary with her comments about Indians?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:04 PM
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38. You are to Cali and the BO fans, cause you post something that doesn't praise their canidate.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:06 PM
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39. You don't speak for me, dear.
And as I've been critical of Obama myself, you're conclusion is simply pathetically wrong. Oh well, hardly a surprise coming from the likes of you.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:08 PM
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41. I'm not speaking for you dearie, just giving a warning. Look at your post
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:29 AM
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59. Typical response.
Take it as a compliment.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:40 PM
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3. He did not say that but your post just told me a whole lot about you.
tsk tsk.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:47 PM
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26. actually, he did. link provided.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:48 PM by Texas Hill Country
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM
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32. You're correct I should have said he didn't say it in that regard.
This is really getting to be too much for me. I'm thinking I don't want to play in the cesspool anymore. No one can say anything and get the benefit of the doubt. It's very sad and very discouraging that we've turned into what we dislike the most.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:40 PM
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5. Inartfully spoken but no harm intended
OF COURSE Obama knows there is no textbook "typical white person" (or "typical black person").
He probably should have clarified that she was typical "of her time" when races didn't have
much exposure to each other and therefore fear was more prevalent.

Thank you for playing "Grasping For Straws"!!!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:59 PM
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34. inartful from such a great speaker?
I don't buy it.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:08 PM
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40. He's talking about his grandmother, for Pete's sake ...
And he was trying to do it in a very casual way. I'm sure had he written out his
"talking points" he would have expressed himself differently.

When you have a candidate speaking from his heart, you're going to occasionally
have hear some slips. When you have a candidate who is COMPLETELY PREPARED
(yes, this is Hillary), you may have verbal perfection but an absence of heart.
I'll take the heart with the flubs anytime.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:09 PM
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42. but I'm guessing you want no "crying," right? n/t
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:11 PM
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45. THAT was a true moment, but I think she was crying for herself
not for the country's loss if she's not the nominee.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:41 PM
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6. I could care less about your grandmother. nt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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8. My Granny Was A Typical White Person
so was my white dad and my white aunts

Group think!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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9. It really is offensive -- I hope it goes mainstream
People should know the true thoughts of someone who wants to represent all the people -- even "typical" white people.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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15. Of course you would Hannity.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:11 PM
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43. LOL! If it's not Sean, then it's gotta be ... the Savage Wiener!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:44 PM
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18. Mainstream Media = Electronic Lynching
the black man can say this shit because he's black & white. just like I can tell Mexican jokes, because I'm 1/2 Mexican.

I stand up and cheer this frank talk about race - vs sweeping it under the carpet.

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Hottest Housewife Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:25 PM
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51. Please, give us one of those Mexican jokes right now!

It would be interesting to hear what one of Barry's supporters thinks is a funny ethnic joke!

Come on! This place needs a little levity!

Tell us one of your hilarious Mexican jokes!
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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10. Yeah Mr. O
Don't get too uppity

wow this can get really stupid can't it?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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11. He's half white. He can say what he wants
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
Besides, was he lying?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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20. Exactly, That Why I Can Tell Mexican
jokes, because I'm half Mexican and have told my Mexican jokes to Mexicans.

Typical response to a typical you name it!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:04 PM
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37. Exactly. Boy oh boy. Some people *shaking head*
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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12. Oh good grief - he meant she is typical in the sense of...
...NOT being racist.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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13. Attacking his grandmother, eh?
Have you no sense of decency?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:43 PM
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17. delete
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:43 PM by angie_love
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:43 PM
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16. Are you clueless about this on purpose or by accident?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:45 PM
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21. your Grandma is a racist?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:46 PM by matcom
man does THAT suck!

does your Grandpa know? He might just divorce the bitch
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:52 PM
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30. Grandma?
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 PM
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54. Y'all can be a grandma young..yaknow? If that is the question..
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 07:13 PM by Oleladylib
I do love the fact...my posts get treasured!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:46 PM
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22. Psssst.....
Nope.

Having grown up in white neighborhoods and being white, I can say with authority that he's absolutely correct. Especially where it concerns white people of his grandmothers era.

Btw, welcome to my Ignore list - with a splash - http://www.mediacollege.com/downloads/sound-effects/water/splash-01.wav
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 PM
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53. Categorically, a sweeping generalization!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:46 PM
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23. Make up your mind. Either whites are "typical" or they're not.
If you're going to bank on whites being "typical" and voting against Obama en masse, then don't bitch about him saying "typical white" people.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:47 PM
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24. YAWPLFAENTVFO
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:50 PM
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28. Oh, for fuck's sake
I wish you people would get a grip, I really do.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:52 PM
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29. I will try to be polite...
Please go have sexual intercourse with yourself. You will feel better.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:53 PM
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31. "Careful"?? What is that supposed
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM by Raine
to mean? Does Obama know your granny for what she is and why are you threatening him? :crazy:

Edit: added crazy smiley
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:18 PM
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50. "Stay in your place boy!" That's my interpretation, at least
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:57 PM
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33. that was a stupid remark.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:03 PM
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35. A lesson from Broadway...
"Everyone's a Little Bit Racist" from Avenue Q

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

Kate Monster:
Right.

Princeton:
You're both Monsters.

Kate Monster:
Yeah.

Princeton:
Are you two related?

Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.

Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster:
What do you mean?

Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?

Kate Monster:
What about it?

Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?

Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-

Princeton:
You see?!

You're a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

Princeton:
But I guess it's true.

Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -

Kate Monster:
No!

Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

Kate Monster:
Right!

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!

Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

Kate Monster:
Okay!

Princeton:
There's a plan going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

Kate Monster:
And a black guy!

Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

Kate Monster:
Uh...

Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!

Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

Gary Coleman:
I don't.

Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.

Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.

Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.

Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -

All right!

Kate Monster:
All right!

Princeton:
All right!

Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white

All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.

Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.

Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton:
Who?

Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

Gary Coleman:
Racism!

Brian:
Cool.

Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!

Princeton:
What's that mean?

Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?

Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.

Brian:
I'm not!

Princeton:
Oh no?

Brian:
Nope!

How many Oriental wives
Have you got?

Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!

Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!

Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!

Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

Christmas Eve:
And I love you.

Brian:
But you're racist, too.

Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!

Princeton:
Me too!

Kate Monster:
Me too!

Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!

All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!

Christmas Eve:
Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:11 PM
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44. White people really hate being stereotyped huh? nt
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:14 PM
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55. I'm a white person who doesn't like to see anyone stereotyped.
It's wrong, period. Just because he directed it at "white people" doesn't make it OK.

How about if Clinton had condescendingly referred to someone as a "typical man?"
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:13 PM
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46. I don't care if you have made the Greatest Page, this is probably one of the...
most senseless posts I have ever seen. I have alerted for two reasons.

1) The tone and accusation are inappropriate.
2) The quote is absolutely inaccurate.

I hope this tripe is removed.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:16 PM
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47. This "typical white person" is unoffended. And my "Granny" would not be offended
either. ;)
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:16 PM
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48. the typical white person of obama's grandmother's age
grew up in segregated america, just as the typical black person of that age did. they grew up in a time when advertising typically included images of mammys and sambos, and when the mere act of looking at a white person could get a non-white person lynched. they grew up when lynching was still, if not legal, certainly practiced. i think it's clear that he meant his grandmother was typical of many white people who grew up when she did, before the civil rights movement was considered a good thing by many americans.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:09 PM
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52. I'm one of "those" people and resent both implications..
typical white...and people of "her" generation...that's balderdash....
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:19 AM
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57. no, it is not
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 10:26 AM by noiretblu
attitudes have changed drastically since then. i am sure there were some people who never held the accepted racist beliefs of the time, but there were others who did because they absolutely were more acceptable...and more held racist beliefs then than today. per obama's recollection, his grandmother used racist language, in part because it was more acceptable then. clearly there have been significant changes in society and attitudes since then, but that doesn't change history.
here's a study on the subject:
http://tigger.uic.edu/~krysan/racialattitudes.htm
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:27 AM
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58. According to the search function, it's not just your grandmother n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 10:45 AM by Catherina
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:30 AM
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60. I'm not offended by statistics.
If we use the mathematical definition of the word "norm", I am indeed a 'typical white person'. I fit nicely into the median of almost all relevant demographic categories quite nicely (except dramatically for income, dagnabbit).

I'm not offended by statistics and demographics.
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