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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:53 AM
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Did Zbigniew Brzezinski rip Clinton today about her experience
I heard that he did from a caller on the Stephani Miller show
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:54 AM
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1. He advises Obama...
...so it's possible - but I haven't heard anything about it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:56 AM
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2. He said Clinton visited more than 80 countries but so did his travel agent
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:58 AM by dmordue
And who would have said that Mamie Eisenhower was more qualified to be president than JFK. He wasn't so much ripping Clinton's experience but more her claim to have 35 years of experience...One reason he said he liked Obama was he was one of a few politicians who could see history as it happens and learn from it rather than only seeing the outcome years later ie Iraq.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:57 AM
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3. Poor Ziggy. eom
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:05 AM
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4. Durham, I've been wondering about this for a couple of
years now. -- What does EOM mean?
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:07 AM
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5. end of message
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:15 AM
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9. Thanks, Bigleaf.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:08 AM
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6. He Can't Help It. . .
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:09 AM
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7. Is Obama Running For President?
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gayron Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:09 AM
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8. Does he not have family working for the Obama Camp?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:03 PM
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11. Ziggy is Obama's number one foreign policy advisor.
They met when Obama took a class at Columbia that Ziggy was teaching. Ziggy was a founding member of the trilateral commission. His daughter, Mika, is on MSNBC every morning (Morning Joe) shilling for you know who. Ziggy was in the Carter administration. Ziggy is a relic.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 AM
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10. No one ever asks Zbigniew about his idea to support the Afghan mujahideen who morphed into al Qaeda
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/20/docume... /

Reflections on Soviet intervention in Afghanistan


December 26, 1979

Memo to President from Zbigniew Brzezinski

A SOVIET VIETNAM?

However, we should not be too sanguine about Afghanistan becoming a Soviet Vietnam:

A. The guerrillas are badly organized and poorly led;

B. They have no sanctuary, no organized army, and no central government -- all of which North Vietnam had;

C. They have limited foreign support, in contrast to the enormous amount of arms that flowed to the Vietnamese from both the Soviet Union and China;

D. The Soviets are likely to act decisively, unlike the U.S., which pursued in Vietnam a policy of inoculating the enemy. As a consequence, the Soviets might be able to assert themselves effectively, and world politics nothing succeeds like success, whatever the moral aspects.

WHAT IS TO BE DONE?

What follows are some preliminary thoughts, which need to be discussed more fully:

A. It is essential that Afghanistani resistance continues. This means more money as well as arms shipments to the rebels, and some technical advice;

B. To make the above possible we must both reassure Pakistan and encourage it to help the rebels. This will require a review of our policy toward Pakistan, more guarantees to it, more arms aid.

C. We should encourage the Chinese to help the rebels also.

D. We should concert with Islamic countries both a propaganda campaign and in a covert action campaign to help the rebels;

E. We should inform the Soviets that their actions are placing SALT in jeopardy and that will also influence the substance of the Brown visit to China, since the Chinese are doubtless going to be most concerned about implications for themselves of such Soviet assertiveness so close to their border. Unless we tell the Soviets will not take our "expressions of concern" very seriously, with the effect that our relations will suffer, without the Soviets ever having been confronted with the need to ask the question whether such local adventurism is worth the long-term damage to the U.S.-Soviet relationship;

F. Finally, we should consider taking Soviet actions in Afghanistan to the U.N. as a threat to peace.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:05 PM
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12. yes, on Morning Joe
there is a diary on Kos about it.
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