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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:10 PM
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"Kerry was beating Bush at this point in 2004" - Many Clinton supporters, a few weeks ago
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:11 PM by George_Bonanza
Yet now, polls that show McCain with a slight lead over Obama are somehow incontrovertible evidence that Hillary MUST be the nominee. Polls now mean very little, and I always believed this even when Obama consistently beat Clinton and McCain. McCain is only somewhat popular right now because nobody's paying attention to him: give him a 30-minute platform to put his foot in his own mouth and he might say something like "draft" or "100 years" or "Iranian Al-Qaeda" and kill his own chances.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:12 PM
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1. polls are pretty much worthless at this point in the cycle
but they seem to be a very popular topic on DU
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Torgo Johnson Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:13 PM
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2. You know what the funny thing is..
Many of those polls also show Mccain with a even bigger lead over Clinton, yet her supporters fail to mention that when they claim that she should be the nominee.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:14 PM
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3. Obama is right
" we can accept politics that breeds division and conflict" or we can say "NOT THIS TIME"
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:45 PM
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4. Too late. The time to say 'not this time' was when the Clintons were being accused of racism.
It did not seem to bother Mr. Obama so long as all the charges of racism were aimed at the Clintons. Never heard a peep from him contesting the accusations of racism in what HRC said about LBJ and MLK, or in what WJC said about 'fairy tales. The racism charge only became unacceptable when it reached out and touched HIM.

BTW, had Hillary come out and made the exact same speech that Obama just did -- for exactly the same reason -- both the MSM and the Obama supporters would be howling that she is a liar who is trying to pull a fast one over on the public.

Obama says "Not this time" only when it is HIS time in the barrel. When somebody else's ox is being gored, for Obama, it's Miller Time!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:46 PM
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5. Not many on this forum gave a crap when Clinton was being crucified.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 11:47 PM by goldcanyonaz
Now that it's Obama it's different.

Such hypocrisy.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:47 PM
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6. I wish someone would tell Hillary that.
I can trace all the division and conflict straight to her.

She needs to say "Not this time" and get out now. For the good of the party and the good of the country.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:48 PM
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7. John Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran McCain will certain kill his own chances....
just give him some time, while we unload his baggage....cause he's got some great big ones.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:49 PM
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8. Kerry wasn't beating Bush
A New York Times poll of March 16 2004 had Bush at 46% and Kerry at 43%.

Just sayin'...
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:53 PM
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9. It's also a different ballgame when there's an incumbent President
Voters trended toward Bush as time went on because the closer it gets to November the more voters tend to go with what they know.
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