Another Clintonista jumps ship

[Debi]

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/another_senior_staff_departure.php

Why, if she's winning, do they keep leaving??

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Jessica O'Connell, the national director of operations, responsible for personnel management, staff deployment and headquarters operations, has decided to step down. She joins a raft of Patti Solis Doyle loyalists, ranging from wonderkind Adam Parkhomenko to deputy manager Mike Henry, who have departed in recent weeks.

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[DJ13]

1. ....in droves

[bicentennial_baby]

2. I'm wondering if Maggie Williams has something to do with it...

As in, forcing them out. Just a thought, I really have no idea.

[Debi]

4. At the link there is a note about different management styles

But I thought they were all on the same team?

[bicentennial_baby]

8. I'm not buying that excuse, at all...

National Operations Director leaving *now*, just b/c of different management styles? I don't think so.

:hi:

[Debi]

10. Maybe it's because of this

Bill Clinton, continuing his tour of the smaller markets where Hillary has been very strong, describes himself to an Indiana crowd as his wife's "rural hitman."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Bill_Clinton_rural_hitman.html#comments

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Does he *ever* shut up?!

:rofl:

[Debi]

15. Guess he was jealous she was getting all the attention again

:shrug:

[gateley]

3. IS she winning?

I've been out of of it for a couple of weeks so don't know too much what's going on. Has it swung back to HRC's favor?

This campaign is SO volatile!

[Debi]

5. In a word

No. (But don't tell any of her supporters that)

Good to see you :hi:

d.

[gateley]

17. And always good to see you!

:hi:

[meow mix]

7. everyone was counting on the pastorgate swiftboat as being successful. then it was destroyed

and sunk.

i never lost faith for a moment.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. God no.

She's in much worse shape than she was two weeks ago.

[Adelante]

38. I was wondering about you, gateley

I'm glad to see you are okay :hi:

[Major Hogwash]

6. Good for them. There's no sense in them aligning themselves anymore.

They don't need this in their lives.
It isn't worth it.
This "win at all costs" crap will cause us all to go down.

[Debi]

11. Yep

Bruised and bloodied

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. Starting to see a trend here.

[Kittycat]

13. Interesting comment on that blog...

As a former Hillary volunteer in WI, I can tell you that workers and volunteers are instructed and encouraged to inundate the blogs and message boards under multiple pseudonyms and pepper them with anti-Obama comments. We were all encouraged to be hit-men. The goal, as they said, is to make it look like 1000?s and 1000?s of people were beginning to have questions or second thoughts about Obama?s credibility and viability. They said the blogs can influence how things are covered in the media. Especially after OH, TX, RI and VT if she won either TX and/or OH. The captains did not specifically say which topics to incite, but it was understood with a wink and a nod that race, experience, trustworthiness, etc. were not off-limits. I can see in the Politico blogs that some Hillary people are following their directions of posting short comments to incite controversy and twist truths. I don?t know that I?ll support Obama, but I definitely have walked out on Hillary. Those people are obsessed with winning at any cost.

Posted By: Amy R. in WI | March 18, 2008 at 05:00 PM

[Debi]

16. I just posted this as a thread -

This is something so many DUers have been saying - just proves them right.

[ima_sinnic]

20. excellent

:thumbsup:

[Debi]

23. Here it is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5144098

[Hardrada]

21. This is most certainly true.

[Debi]

22. Please go share your opinion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5144098

(and good to see you out here - how did your county convention go?)

(pls don't tell Seth about this...:yoiks:)

[Hardrada]

32. My wife went to it. I am more an historian than anything else

and don't always do the spear-carrying. Mr. Obama: 10, Mrs. Clinton: 6, Mr Edwards: 4. My spouse adhered to the Edwards camp to promote his ideas at district and state.

[Debi]

33. What district are you in?

I know I should know this by now....:blush:

[Hardrada]

35. Duh foist!

[Debi]

36. Now I am really embarrassed!

I'll see you in Dubuque! :blush:

[Alexander]

18. Well, that explains DU.

[ima_sinnic]

19. good catch! the ones here are so transparent they are a joke

... they think that flogging dead horses is somehow going to make people turn to Billary, as though she has anything going for her other than a very Rove-like campaign strategy. They are so ridiculous, they actually dis HRC by inadvertently pointing out even more reasons to detest her.

--such as the drivel about the "Punjab slur," which (because I've been furiously working lately) I'd missed, and consequently checked out, to discover that HRC herself says she could be the "senator from Punjab" (agreeing with an Indian who introduced her at a meeting) because of all the nice ways she's been helping out business interests in India (guess where your job's going to go if "president billary" gets in office???)--and somehow Obama is "slurring" somebody (who?) when he calls billary "Clinton (D-Punjab)" in a memo -- but if they hadn't pointed it out, I wouldn't have been aware of this further disloyalty on HilBilly's part.

their efforts, like her same-old-same-old Bushite insincere mud-slinging swiftboating campaign strategy, are working seriously against her, but they're too clueless to see that.

[Catherina]

24. It's a definite giveaway when all someone does is cut and paste

especially other people's responses.

The despicable tactics of the Hillary camp, especially their nonsensical & exaggerated accusations of sexism left and right, are what made me give Obama a second look. I liked what I saw and never turned back.

Everything the HRC camp does misfires beautifully.

Thanks for posting that. It's not surprising.

[krkaufman]

31. It's just *my* quick impression, but your signature graphic ...

... makes me think that Obama supported the IRaq war and now Iran fear-mongering.

[burythehatchet]

34. My 200+ strong ignore list is probably like 8 people.

[Adelante]

39. I don't think it's unusual for campaigns to do that to some extent

(Or for supporters to take it on themselves.) However, this primary season, I gave up reading comment sections of any blogs - for one thing, the sheer amount of astroturf is too boring to read day in and day out, but also because there is so very much carrying of extremely right wing talking points from site to site that I don't remember happening ever before and it's a real turnoff. That volunteers are encouraged to sockpuppet, hmmm, that is interesting.

[cbayer]

25. From the piece:

"O'Connell's resignation should not be interpreted as a sign of chaos in Hillayland. It's just that Williams's management style is very different than Solis Doyle's."

Also, the resignation letter is very positive in regard to Senator Clinton.

But you can spin it anyway you want.

[Debi]

26. You are welcome to put up a thread that says people quitting a campaign

is a positive thing.

Please do so.

If that's what you truly believe.

:hi:

[cbayer]

28. That's not what I believe. I think people quit campaigns for a variety of reasons.

I was responding to you and including information from your link that I felt was important and might change the perspective for some people.

I do this because so many people here don't even open the links. They respond in a knee-jerk way to whatever the OP feeds them.

I am trying to encourage some critical thinking, that's all.

By the way, I have gotten the impression that you are NOT one of the people I describe above. You do appear to have intact critical thinking skills.

:hi:

[Binka]

29. LOL! Just Like A Sports Owner Saying "The Coach isn't going Anywhere"

And BAM the next day his ass is tossed to the curb. Any high ranking official in the HRC camp that is leaving at this EXTREMELY CRITICAL juncture, (for her ever dwindling run at the WH) is doing so with their hair, their pants, and their MOTHERFUCKING ASS on fire!

I'd make book on it if I could!

[Medusa]

27. Maybe they have morals? A conscience?

It's refreshing to think that in this very nasty election cycle some do.

[Debi]

30. I'm sure SOME do

I'm also pretty positive that there will be a clear division by the time we get to Denver in August.

[MethuenProgressive]

37. "Clintonista" was coined by Rush Limbaugh, wasn't it?

Shame to see it used here.