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Obama's Speech This Morning Is One That Every True Democrat Should Be Applauding.

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Obama's Speech This Morning Is One That Every True Democrat Should Be Applauding.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:39 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
That's a fact.

It is a speech that cut through political tripe and went right to the soul of the issue in a matter of fact way. It said many things that needed to be said. It put things in the proper perspective. It gave a dose of reality to those who otherwise refuse to let that reality enter their minds.

It was something that carried with it the core values and integrity that EVERY member of the Democratic Party subscribes to. The words, the tone, the facts, the intent and the message, were all inarguable.

I commend Senator Obama for a fine speech. He said exactly what needed to be said and did so with grace and conviction. I am proud of him, and I am proud to be a democrat.

There are some that will ignore the speech. They will dismiss it and not pay its wise words any heed. They will do so for several reasons. Some will do so because they are on the other side of the aisle, and don't want to hear those words. Some will do so out of hatred, racism, and bigotry, and a refusal to consider changing their ways. Some will do so out of sheer ignorance and lack of understanding as to how true those words were. Others will do so merely because he is not their choice candidate, and they will let their sports minded like mentality become more important than the powerful words spoken today.

But no matter, because anyone in any of those groups is not a true democrat at heart. They may believe they are, may claim they are, but at their very core they are not. No true democrat would be ignorant enough to turn a blind ear to these wise words today. No true democrat would let their passion for their candidate rise above a speech with such a greater purpose. No true democrat would try and squash those words and dismiss the message, which is a message so true and pure that we should be excited to spread it far and wide.

So I say to all: Do not be discouraged in the face of those who would undermine this message. Try and teach them, try and help them understand, and if that fails, then simply ignore them. This is a message all of us, from every camp, from every walk of life, from every political ideology, should readily be able to applaud. As democrats, I'm confident we all are.

Hear hear to you all, and a toast for tomorrow...

:toast:
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   OMC, as always, you show yourself to be fair and honorable.  DarienComp   Mar-18-08 12:12 PM   #1 
   Thank you OMC. I agree.  mod mom   Mar-18-08 12:14 PM   #2 
   Right back atcha!  TexasLady   Mar-18-08 12:15 PM   #3 
   this is why your 1 of the 3 hillary supporters, not on my ignore list.  meow mix   Mar-18-08 12:16 PM   #4 
   Exactly, I don't see how any democrat couldn't applaud a speech like that,  malik flavors   Mar-18-08 12:16 PM   #5 
   I think so. Thanks OMC.  mmonk   Mar-18-08 12:17 PM   #6 
   I agree with you  Andy823   Mar-18-08 12:17 PM   #7 
   Me too. Fantastic.  Bonobo   Mar-19-08 10:10 AM   #168 
   A great speech still doesn't mean I should vote for Obama for President.  WinkyDink   Mar-18-08 12:18 PM   #8 
   Ahhhhhh, But You Don't Have To Choose Him As Your Candidate, To Applaud His Words Either.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-18-08 12:43 PM   #32 
   Thank you for saying this.  fight4my3sons   Mar-18-08 01:43 PM   #58 
   And that is what a lot of people are losing ...  butterfly77   Mar-18-08 01:45 PM   #59 
   They do whether you realize it or not. n/t  casus belli   Mar-19-08 08:19 AM   #161 
   If Hillary had given this speech I would have applauded it also - It will go down in history I think  1776Forever   Mar-18-08 12:21 PM   #9 
   i'm kicking this  DarienComp   Mar-18-08 12:21 PM   #10 
   thanks, OMC!  slinkerwink   Mar-18-08 12:22 PM   #11 
   Thank you!  loveangelc   Mar-18-08 12:22 PM   #12 
   Well said, OMC!  11 Bravo   Mar-18-08 12:24 PM   #13 
   K&R  LSK   Mar-18-08 12:28 PM   #14 
   Well said OMC.  grace0418   Mar-18-08 12:31 PM   #15 
   My thoughts too! He exemplified leadership but tempered his lofty language  CTyankee   Mar-18-08 04:13 PM   #85 
   Now YOU made me cry...  JenniferZ   Mar-18-08 12:31 PM   #16 
   It felt good to hear as a CITIZEN and proud to hear as a Democrat.  blm   Mar-18-08 12:31 PM   #17 
   bullshit! this speech was to coverup the fact the reprobate lied  BenDavid   Mar-18-08 12:34 PM   #18 
   I heard he deals drugs, too!!!1!!1 n/t  yibbehobba   Mar-18-08 12:37 PM   #22 
   Seriously dude, chill the fuck out. Obama didn't say he wasn't ever  haymakeragain   Mar-18-08 12:40 PM   #25 
   Did you mean that?  pollo poco   Mar-18-08 07:30 PM   #101 
      I think the Lieberman reference  polmaven   Mar-19-08 07:54 AM   #157 
   OMC has been supporting Clinton...  rateyes   Mar-18-08 12:43 PM   #31 
   This is true. I am not a OMC-defender (for sure), but he made a genuine  U4ikLefty   Mar-18-08 11:06 PM   #130 
   Kill the messenger before recognizing the message...  Kittycat   Mar-18-08 12:48 PM   #33 
   Dude, get some rabies shots.  Shakespeare   Mar-18-08 01:05 PM   #41 
   You have so much hatred in you.  EmperorHasNoClothes   Mar-18-08 01:34 PM   #48 
   OMC is/was a Clinton supporter. You need a time out. nt.  endarkenment   Mar-18-08 01:42 PM   #57 
   You really do hate the fact that the lies...  butterfly77   Mar-18-08 01:47 PM   #60 
   You have issues.... and you should go work them out before posting anymore....  scheming daemons   Mar-18-08 01:50 PM   #61 
   ....  Forkboy   Mar-18-08 02:40 PM   #77 
   Amen to that.  HawkeyeX   Mar-19-08 11:45 AM   #173 
   "because he gave a worded speech"  krkaufman   Mar-18-08 06:01 PM   #89 
   ...  Megahurtz   Mar-18-08 07:11 PM   #99 
   Man, you sound like Captain Queeg  Jersey Devil   Mar-18-08 07:11 PM   #100 
   Your post will have me laughing all day.  40ozDonkey   Mar-19-08 08:11 AM   #158 
   I've been on DU for years now and this is my first ignore ...  sunnystarr   Mar-18-08 08:39 PM   #111 
   "the reprobate"...when you become civil, you deserve a response.  earthlover   Mar-18-08 09:06 PM   #117 
   Yep - he said he was "not aware" and "did not hear" - all LIES...  TankLV   Mar-18-08 10:25 PM   #127 
   Lunatic... gtfo  rAVES   Mar-18-08 11:40 PM   #139 
   You didn't watch it, yet you have no problems mischaracterizing it?  casus belli   Mar-19-08 08:20 AM   #162 
   Applause for Obama and OMC  Greyskye   Mar-18-08 12:35 PM   #19 
   K&R  Tatiana   Mar-18-08 12:35 PM   #20 
   Damn OMC...never thought I would nominate  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-18-08 12:36 PM   #21 
   Beat me to it  IDemo   Mar-18-08 01:40 PM   #54 
   K & R  rateyes   Mar-18-08 12:38 PM   #23 
   K&R  ebdarcy   Mar-18-08 12:40 PM   #24 
   k and r  grantcart   Mar-18-08 12:40 PM   #26 
   If anything his speech today confirmed he is a liar and a typical politician.  Hoof Hearted   Mar-18-08 12:41 PM   #27 
   Take a cue from OMC.  mmonk   Mar-18-08 12:42 PM   #29 
   Sad that you would continue to post  rateyes   Mar-18-08 12:48 PM   #34 
   Blinded by hate. That's all than can account for it.  Kittycat   Mar-18-08 12:50 PM   #36 
   "Kissing Republican Ass For 35 Years With A Smile"??? (Refreshing candor.)  TahitiNut   Mar-18-08 01:51 PM   #62 
   What a sad and lonely person you must be. n/t  Barrymores Ghost   Mar-18-08 07:43 PM   #106 
   Obama voiced the mode of compromise that is required of true Democrats...  AntiFascist   Mar-18-08 08:56 PM   #113 
   that's not what he said... but this is flamebait so who cares really  ksquire   Mar-18-08 11:33 PM   #138 
   Well tell that to your friends on Free republic.. since Obama is going to be your next president!!  rAVES   Mar-18-08 11:42 PM   #140 
   Well tell that to your friends on Free republic.. since Obama is going to be your next president!!  rAVES   Mar-18-08 11:42 PM   #142 
   Can't believe you wrote this.. thank you. K&R  K Gardner   Mar-18-08 12:41 PM   #28 
   Well Said!  BlueIdaho   Mar-18-08 12:42 PM   #30 
   Since I learned yesterday criticizing Obama means that you are a Republican,  Bentcorner   Mar-18-08 12:49 PM   #35 
   Since I am sure that the Rev. is regularly taped....  DWilliamsamh   Mar-18-08 11:07 PM   #131 
   OMC  SunsetDreams   Mar-18-08 12:54 PM   #37 
   Fantastic speech! n/t  publicatlarge   Mar-18-08 12:55 PM   #38 
   Awww...come here buddy...  Bullet1987   Mar-18-08 12:58 PM   #39 
   Man, you are welcome in my home anytime OMC.  Bonobo   Mar-18-08 01:01 PM   #40 
   Good on you! And kudos to Hillary's Iraq speech yesterday -- it was strong also!  thevoiceofreason   Mar-18-08 01:25 PM   #42 
   Yes, What a fine day to be a Democrat!...............n/t  DearAbby   Mar-18-08 01:28 PM   #43 
   Good on you for that  Armstead   Mar-18-08 01:30 PM   #44 
   I *knew* there was a reason I didn't put you on ignore; You're far more than an HRC supporter...  Melinda   Mar-18-08 01:30 PM   #45 
   well you restored my faith in some of the hillary supporters  madrchsod   Mar-18-08 01:33 PM   #46 
   This comes from you, OMC makes me mighty happy  donheld   Mar-18-08 01:34 PM   #47 
   As always, OMC rocks the house  Teaser   Mar-18-08 01:35 PM   #49 
   glad to heartily agree with you  Bluerthanblue   Mar-18-08 01:36 PM   #50 
   I agree  eggman67   Mar-18-08 01:36 PM   #51 
   No, no, no.  cali   Mar-18-08 01:38 PM   #52 
   Thank you, OMC. You've proven yourself a true Democrat  EmperorHasNoClothes   Mar-18-08 01:38 PM   #53 
   kick  dionysus   Mar-18-08 01:40 PM   #55 
   Coming from Oompa's  RememberWellstone   Mar-18-08 01:42 PM   #56 
   I'm sorry you've had your wedge issue taken from you.  yibbehobba   Mar-18-08 02:10 PM   #69 
   Wow...  redqueen   Mar-18-08 01:53 PM   #63 
   So anyone who sees it as just a politician's damage control speech is not a true Democrat?  RestoreGore   Mar-18-08 01:58 PM   #64 
   If it was just a damage control speech...  gcomeau   Mar-18-08 02:34 PM   #74 
   Well then by your logic he has then turned this into being about race today  RestoreGore   Mar-18-08 03:06 PM   #79 
   Thanks  crud76   Mar-18-08 09:19 PM   #121 
   Dupe n/t  RestoreGore   Mar-18-08 01:58 PM   #65 
   Kick  thevoiceofreason   Mar-18-08 02:06 PM   #66 
   It was a great speech!  watercolors   Mar-18-08 02:08 PM   #67 
   Thanks OMC  George Oilwellian   Mar-18-08 02:09 PM   #68 
   Thanks! K&R!  thesubstanceofdreams   Mar-18-08 02:16 PM   #70 
   Yay! K and R  ClayZ   Mar-18-08 02:19 PM   #71 
   good post  doyourealize1   Mar-18-08 02:20 PM   #72 
   The Second OP From You This Week That Is Thoughtful - WTF!!!  JimGinPA   Mar-18-08 02:23 PM   #73 
   Excellent post!  Utopian Leftist   Mar-18-08 02:38 PM   #75 
   This was fantastic. I hope it works.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-18-08 02:38 PM   #76 
   Excellent post with just one flaw.  Forkboy   Mar-18-08 02:44 PM   #78 
   K & R! Great analysis of a great speech!  robertpaulsen   Mar-18-08 03:37 PM   #80 
   some of us will ignore his speech because we're waiting to see his actions. nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-18-08 03:52 PM   #81 
   The Actions Need To Start With You, Not With Him.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-18-08 04:57 PM   #88 
   Exactly! And that's maybe what's hard for some to take  JerseygirlCT   Mar-19-08 08:21 AM   #163 
   Yep. One distraction after another.  Life Long Dem   Mar-18-08 06:56 PM   #95 
   K&R. Thank you OMC. We don't always agree but I think you always try to be fair.  angie_love   Mar-18-08 03:59 PM   #82 
   The speech was an attempt at a sane, rational response to all of the media hype.  CTyankee   Mar-18-08 04:07 PM   #83 
   Once again, OMC cuts to the heart of it. A Democrat who makes me proud to be a Democrat  onenote   Mar-18-08 04:12 PM   #84 
   Thanks OMC  DerekJ   Mar-18-08 04:19 PM   #86 
   Thank you OMC ... it was truly one of the best speeches I have ever heard nt  NoBushSpokenHere   Mar-18-08 04:20 PM   #87 
   Commendable post, OMC.  krkaufman   Mar-18-08 06:10 PM   #90 
   I have to disagree with you about the test for a 'true Democrat'  ekwhite   Mar-18-08 09:47 PM   #125 
      You mean like a platform?  sybylla   Mar-19-08 11:24 AM   #170 
   Excellent post OMC. K&R  bunnies   Mar-18-08 06:18 PM   #91 
   I thought it was a GREAT speech, also! Thanks for the OP, OMC! Kicking. n/t  Tresalisa   Mar-18-08 06:46 PM   #92 
   He was very statesman like remnded me of Gore a touch too.  cooolandrew   Mar-18-08 06:50 PM   #93 
   I was actually wondering what your reaction to the speech would be.  Elrond HubbardDU Moderator   Mar-18-08 06:53 PM   #94 
   What? YOU wrote this???  Megahurtz   Mar-18-08 07:04 PM   #96 
   Nice comment. It's good to see that you have an open mind.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Mar-18-08 07:08 PM   #97 
   Thank you, OMC.  SeattleGirl   Mar-18-08 07:09 PM   #98 
   Easily one of the greatest speeches I've ever seen  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-18-08 07:31 PM   #102 
   Yes  Patsy Stone   Mar-18-08 07:32 PM   #103 
   False democrats too!  goodhue   Mar-18-08 07:34 PM   #104 
   Again, thank you for bringing some sanity to GD:P n/t  NewHampshireDem   Mar-18-08 07:41 PM   #105 
   Bravo for principle!  NickMorgan   Mar-18-08 08:00 PM   #107 
   K&R  NYDem Observer   Mar-18-08 08:01 PM   #108 
   Absolutely, it was inescapably powerful  spoony   Mar-18-08 08:29 PM   #109 
   Thanks for your post. But do you extend your open-hearted Democratic  Voice for Peace   Mar-18-08 08:33 PM   #110 
   All Democrats Have My Respect.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-18-08 08:41 PM   #112 
      Does a Democrat who once was a Republican have your respect?  Voice for Peace   Mar-18-08 08:56 PM   #114 
         Feel Free To Send Me A PM If You'd Like.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-18-08 09:03 PM   #116 
            ok.. thanks for the invitation. nt  Voice for Peace   Mar-18-08 09:10 PM   #118 
   K&R. And a toast to you, sir.  myrna minx   Mar-18-08 08:59 PM   #115 
   Thank you. nt  corkhead   Mar-18-08 09:17 PM   #119 
   OMC, I misjudged you...mad props & a K&R  damonm   Mar-18-08 09:19 PM   #120 
   k&r  tammywammy   Mar-18-08 09:22 PM   #122 
   Thank you!  mhoran   Mar-18-08 09:36 PM   #123 
   You have a big heart, OMC  aaronbees   Mar-18-08 09:42 PM   #124 
   I'm a true Democrat - and I found it SAD and SORELY LACKING - BIG TIME!  TankLV   Mar-18-08 10:23 PM   #126 
   I APPLAUDE you for your gracious words!  discerning christian   Mar-18-08 10:54 PM   #128 
   I appreciate your saying that, OMC. And I feel the same way.  hisownpetard   Mar-18-08 11:05 PM   #129 
   it was a great speech and I would vote for him if he is the nom...  ElsewheresDaughter   Mar-18-08 11:11 PM   #132 
   It was a speech he made because he's in trouble. He didn't denounce Wright and now he's backpeddlin  elixir   Mar-18-08 11:19 PM   #133 
   Actually, it was a forward peddle...you just can't see that.  Forkboy   Mar-18-08 11:21 PM   #134 
   How did Chris Matthews' leg respond to the speech? n/t  1800flowers   Mar-18-08 11:24 PM   #135 
   "From every walk of life.  trickyguy   Mar-18-08 11:31 PM   #136 
   THAAAAANK YOU!! I like to think i'd be wise enough to feel the same if/ when Hillary does something  ksquire   Mar-18-08 11:31 PM   #137 
   Big K & R !!!  WillyT   Mar-18-08 11:42 PM   #141 
   and some of us Indies are applauding him, too.....  better tomorrow   Mar-18-08 11:43 PM   #143 
   AWESOME speech !!  RBInMaine   Mar-18-08 11:52 PM   #144 
   He made a believer out of me, he can win, he MUST win.  greyghost   Mar-19-08 12:09 AM   #145 
   K&R  meow mix   Mar-19-08 12:32 AM   #146 
   Big Ole Kick!!!  DrFunkenstein   Mar-19-08 12:33 AM   #147 
   I'm a Hillary supporter, but have to admit Obama was stellar today. Hat's off to him.  BigBearJohn   Mar-19-08 12:43 AM   #148 
   Loved the message and the tone --- just right --- really difficult not to like this man . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-19-08 01:28 AM   #149 
   Agreed  maximusveritas   Mar-19-08 02:11 AM   #150 
   Obama talks unity but Axelrod keeps accusing Hillary of being a bitch queen.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-19-08 02:40 AM   #151 
   I think that will be a long wait.  polmaven   Mar-19-08 08:28 AM   #164 
   'Xactly what I was thinking, OMC...  cynatnite   Mar-19-08 02:46 AM   #152 
   K&R  BringBigDogBack   Mar-19-08 04:51 AM   #153 
   K&R. Nice post. n/t  tasteblind   Mar-19-08 04:53 AM   #154 
   Nice Flamebait, Dude!  Danzo   Mar-19-08 05:28 AM   #155 
   I couldn't agree more, OMC, and I'm not surprised to see this post from you.  pnwmom   Mar-19-08 05:31 AM   #156 
   The kneejerk negative reactions sicken me. Obama gave a speech  deacon   Mar-19-08 08:16 AM   #159 
   Thank you and I agree. That was very nicely said! nt  JerseygirlCT   Mar-19-08 08:18 AM   #160 
   Thanks for this new ideological purity test.  Deep13   Mar-19-08 09:04 AM   #165 
   Nothing New About It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-19-08 09:12 AM   #166 
      A couple points.  Deep13   Mar-19-08 09:27 AM   #167 
   K & R  PerfectSage   Mar-19-08 10:41 AM   #169 
   Thank you OMC!!!  alyce douglas   Mar-19-08 11:34 AM   #171 
   Here's to you OMC...  HawkeyeX   Mar-19-08 11:35 AM   #172 
   Darn! Just missed the 24 hr. mark to recommend this!  Kajsa   Mar-19-08 12:21 PM   #174 
 
DarienComp (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:12 PM
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1. OMC, as always, you show yourself to be fair and honorable.
A better person than me. Thank you for setting a fine example.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:14 PM
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2. Thank you OMC. I agree.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:15 PM
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3. Right back atcha!
:hug:
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meow mix (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:16 PM
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4. this is why your 1 of the 3 hillary supporters, not on my ignore list.
at least you show honesty and rationality at times =)
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malik flavors (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:16 PM
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5. Exactly, I don't see how any democrat couldn't applaud a speech like that,
Whether you like Obama or not, if you're a dmeocrat you should be celebrating those words.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:17 PM
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6. I think so. Thanks OMC.
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:17 PM
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7. I agree with you
He said what needed to be said, and did an excellent job of it. It's to bad that many here are attacking him, but that's politics. I am sure that the right wing will still use this against him, but they would never vote for him anyway, so it makes little difference. I was, and am, a strong Edwards supporter, but have decided that I have to support Obama over Hillary at this time. We need someone who will face the issues, as he did today, and tell it like it is, not dance around the issues, and pander like so many other politicians do.

I think he did a great job today, and though some will not agree, he has made his case to lead the this country stronger.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 10:10 AM
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168. Me too. Fantastic.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:18 PM
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8. A great speech still doesn't mean I should vote for Obama for President.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 12:19 PM by WinkyDink
I didn't think this election's issues revolved around race.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:43 PM
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32. Ahhhhhh, But You Don't Have To Choose Him As Your Candidate, To Applaud His Words Either.
Some things speak for the party as a whole and beyond, not the candidate himself.
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fight4my3sons (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:43 PM
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58. Thank you for saying this.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 01:44 PM by fight4my3sons
If only other people realized this were true.

edited for spelling
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:45 PM
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59. And that is what a lot of people are losing ...
in the debate.
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casus belli (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 08:19 AM
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161. They do whether you realize it or not. n/t
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:21 PM
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9. If Hillary had given this speech I would have applauded it also - It will go down in history I think
I thank you for the comment! It would be great to feel like we are in the same party even if we do not support the same candidate more often!!
:toast:
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DarienComp (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:21 PM
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10. i'm kicking this
so that it doesn't get drowned out by the usual back-and-forth threads we've come to expect at DU.
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:22 PM
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11. thanks, OMC!
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:22 PM
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12. Thank you!
k
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:24 PM
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13. Well said, OMC!
:toast:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:28 PM
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14. K&R
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:31 PM
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15. Well said OMC.
My concerns about whether he can make a great president are washing away.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:13 PM
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85. My thoughts too! He exemplified leadership but tempered his lofty language
with well thought out positions on the race issue. His past speeches have seemed too vague for me, but he has hit just the right tone with this speech. I understand he is going to make two more major speeches, one on Iraq and the other on the economy. It will make McCain look like the angry little pink man that he is....
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:31 PM
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16. Now YOU made me cry...
I love you again. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:31 PM
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17. It felt good to hear as a CITIZEN and proud to hear as a Democrat.
KandR
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:34 PM
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18. bullshit! this speech was to coverup the fact the reprobate lied
about being in services when this racist wright spoke....obama lied....obama lied to the american people in interviews with abc, cnn, fox msnbc...the man lied......so now you obambots are going to overlook the lie and tell us because he gave a worded speech he is forgiven.

if he is such a trusted soul, then I would assume he asked forgiveness in the speech cause he sure as hell broke several of the commandments
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:37 PM
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22. I heard he deals drugs, too!!!1!!1 n/t
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:40 PM
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25. Seriously dude, chill the fuck out. Obama didn't say he wasn't ever
at a sermon by Wright, pull your head out of your arse. Thnaks for playing Lieberman.
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pollo poco (277 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:30 PM
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101. Did you mean that?
I mean that part about Leiberman. That came off a little like you're down on the brother for his jewishness. I hope it was just an accident.

Having said that, I do agree he should pull his head out.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 07:54 AM
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157. I think the Lieberman reference
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 07:58 AM by polmaven
was meant actually to question his credentials as a Democrat. You see, to some here, if you are not supporting Senator Obama, you are a Republican.

I agree that the poster was a little bit of an exaggeration, because I doubt the every sermon Reverend Wright gave was quite that inflammatory, but to say he had NEVER heard that kind of reference from Wright was, well, a little unbelievable.

All in all, I think it was an excellent speech, one that he needed to give, one that the country needed to hear, and one that, as "someone" (I've forgotten who) said on TV this morning, one that he, and only he, at this moment, could give from both sides of the spectrum.

May I say, though, that, unlike what some at MSNBC (i.e. Tweety) apparently think, it is NOT the most inspiring speech since the Sermon on the Mount.

The next thing that needs to be addressed, something that has been all but ignored, is sexism. Contrary to what many right here on this board believe, that is not a problem that has gone away, either. It is alive and well, and, I think, growing.

I'm sure I will be told to stop whining, but I think it needed to be said.
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rateyes (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:43 PM
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31. OMC has been supporting Clinton...
Shows what the hell you know.
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:06 PM
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130. This is true. I am not a OMC-defender (for sure), but he made a genuine
heart-felt statement about a speech that inspired him.

For this, I commend him.

This is a rare occasion on my part OMC...you'd better bookmark it!!! ;)
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:48 PM
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33. Kill the messenger before recognizing the message...
Is that your mission Ben David? Your heart is clearly not in the right place. Would you utter such contempt about speeches MLK gave about racial division & equality? That is exactly what this speech was about, regardless of whether you like the candidate or not.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:05 PM
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41. Dude, get some rabies shots.
Seriously.
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:34 PM
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48. You have so much hatred in you.
It's really just sad.
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endarkenment (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:42 PM
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57. OMC is/was a Clinton supporter. You need a time out. nt.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:47 PM
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60. You really do hate the fact that the lies...
can not knock down the truth. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:50 PM
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61. You have issues.... and you should go work them out before posting anymore....
....
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 02:40 PM
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77. ....
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 11:45 AM
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173. Amen to that.
That guy is an embarrassment to my religion. A Likudnik for sure. He's more of a boring Jackie Mason - if you get my thrift.

Hawkeye-X
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krkaufman (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:01 PM
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89. "because he gave a worded speech"
What...? Was he supposed to pantomime it?
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:11 PM
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99. ...


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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:11 PM
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100. Man, you sound like Captain Queeg
No, I don't have a key and I didn't take your fucking strawberries.
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40ozDonkey (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 08:11 AM
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158. Your post will have me laughing all day.
Thank you.
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sunnystarr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:39 PM
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111. I've been on DU for years now and this is my first ignore ...
Congratulations!
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earthlover (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:06 PM
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117. "the reprobate"...when you become civil, you deserve a response.
Racism is a disease. It affected Jews, blacks and a lot of others. Why?
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 10:25 PM
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127. Yep - he said he was "not aware" and "did not hear" - all LIES...
stick a fork in him - he's DONE...

HA HA!....
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rAVES (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:40 PM
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139. Lunatic... gtfo
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casus belli (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 08:20 AM
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162. You didn't watch it, yet you have no problems mischaracterizing it?
Welcome to ignore.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:35 PM
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19. Applause for Obama and OMC


:toast:
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Tatiana (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:35 PM
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20. K&R
Thanks for this message and the spirit in which it was given.

:toast:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:36 PM
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21. Damn OMC...never thought I would nominate
one of your threads but well said.
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IDemo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:40 PM
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54. Beat me to it
recommended
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rateyes (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:38 PM
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23. K & R
from another true Democrat.
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:40 PM
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24. K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:40 PM
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26. k and r
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM
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27. If anything his speech today confirmed he is a liar and a typical politician.
How many times did he say on Friday he would have walked out or quit if he knew about the racist histrionics of Rev. Wright?

This morning, he admits not only did he know, but he was there.

Today I saw the audacity of insincere damage control, but then again, with two decades of attendance and video tape to boot, he didn't have much choice. It did accomplish the goal of re-placing the media's lips firmly on his backside.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 12:42 PM
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29. Take a cue from OMC.
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rateyes (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:48 PM
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34. Sad that you would continue to post
lies like this. You obviously didn't listen very intently to the speech.

I bet your candidate doesn't share your opinion of the speech. Perhaps someone in the media should ask what she thought of the speech. Let's try and see her say what you just said. If she says anything other than that she agrees with every word he said, she will be toast.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:50 PM
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36. Blinded by hate. That's all than can account for it.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:51 PM
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62. "Kissing Republican Ass For 35 Years With A Smile"??? (Refreshing candor.)


:rofl:

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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:43 PM
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106. What a sad and lonely person you must be. n/t
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:56 PM
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113. Obama voiced the mode of compromise that is required of true Democrats...

in dealing with extreme elements of one community or another, be it anger expressed by some in the black community or bigoted bias on behalf of some in the white. This is in contrast to the very calculated, triangulating compromise of the Clintons and their campaign in compromising between Republican special interests and those of true progressive Democrats. If anyone is lying or deceptive...
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ksquire (110 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:33 PM
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138. that's not what he said... but this is flamebait so who cares really
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rAVES (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:42 PM
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140. Well tell that to your friends on Free republic.. since Obama is going to be your next president!!
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rAVES (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:42 PM
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142. Well tell that to your friends on Free republic.. since Obama is going to be your next president!!
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K Gardner (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM
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28. Can't believe you wrote this.. thank you. K&R
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:42 PM
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30. Well Said!
Once again I find myself applauding you for your clarity and your honesty. Racism - sexism - ageism - homophobia all rip the fabric of our society. Frankly, this stuff is bigger than which candidate we support - this is about the kind of world we leave to our children. We stand at a turning point in this election cycle. Will we embrace slice and dice politics or will we demand a discussion on a higher plain. Right now I don't care who anyone supports - if they think racism - sexism and the rest are funny jibes or wedge issue talking points - they are not what I'd call a Democrat - hell they are not what I'd call a human being.
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Bentcorner (381 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:49 PM
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35. Since I learned yesterday criticizing Obama means that you are a Republican,
this doesn't really surprise me.

To me, this was never about race. It was about judgment. The judgment to continue attending this church even though the paster routinely said awful, hateful things from the pulpit.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:07 PM
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131. Since I am sure that the Rev. is regularly taped....
90 seconds of over the top anger and completely incendiary rhetoric hardly makes a case for "the paster routinely said awful, hateful things from the pulpit."

Are we to distance our selves and renounce anyone in our lives who has ever said anything untoward? Are we to "shun" those closest to us who hold some views at some times that we find repugnant? That would be a very lonely world indeed.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:54 PM
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37. OMC
Thank you for your honesty. I think he did very well, and I am confident that he can start the process of healing old wounds.
We can all start the conversations now, and try to better understand one another.
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:55 PM
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38. Fantastic speech! n/t
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 12:58 PM
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39. Awww...come here buddy...
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:01 PM
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40. Man, you are welcome in my home anytime OMC.
You're the real deal.

A good man.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:25 PM
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42. Good on you! And kudos to Hillary's Iraq speech yesterday -- it was strong also!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 01:28 PM
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43. Yes, What a fine day to be a Democrat!...............n/t
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Armstead (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:30 PM
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44. Good on you for that
He did get to the core of a lot of things from what ought to be the perspective of the whole Democratic Party, regardless of candidate.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:30 PM
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45. I *knew* there was a reason I didn't put you on ignore; You're far more than an HRC supporter...
You're a fuckin' rockstar. :headbang: :toast:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:33 PM
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46. well you restored my faith in some of the hillary supporters
we do not agree on candidates but we agree that it was something that needed to be said at this time in history. we have a common goal and that is to take back our country from the forces that divide our country. ya i`ll :toast: to that!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 01:34 PM
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47. This comes from you, OMC makes me mighty happy
Thanks for posting.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:35 PM
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49. As always, OMC rocks the house
.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:36 PM
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50. glad to heartily agree with you
:hi:

:hug: OMC-


peace~
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eggman67 (727 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:36 PM
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51. I agree
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:00 PM by eggman67
I've been a vocal Hillary supporter and I remain a Hillary supporter, but that was an excellent speech. Hopefully both racism & sexism can be put aside from the campaigning, and then ultimately addressed openly and properly under a new administration.

This is what comes from being a nation that has lived in fear of discussing issues openly and living under the weasels, on all sides, who have benefited from exploiting that fear. We moved from legal segregation to self segregation and decided to "let sleeping dogs lie" As he said - not this time.

EDIT TO ADD: Actually, this is a speech that every American should be applauding.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 01:38 PM
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52. No, no, no.
That's still not a fact, it's an opinion- even if it is one I wholeheartedly agree with.

:toast:
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:38 PM
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53. Thank you, OMC. You've proven yourself a true Democrat
in all the best senses. We may disagree on candidates, but we agree on the fundamental issues that make us Democrats.

Cheers! :toast:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:40 PM
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55. kick
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:42 PM
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56. Coming from Oompa's
One speech turns this around? No, I don't think so, it was another speech, howbeit a good one...but the is empty and vapid to his surroundings. He contradicted himself in the speech.
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:10 PM
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69. I'm sorry you've had your wedge issue taken from you.
I'm sure you'll find another one soon.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:53 PM
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63. Wow...
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 01:53 PM by redqueen
strong words, and surprising ones too... glad you found the speech as inspirational and moving as I did. :)
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:58 PM
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64. So anyone who sees it as just a politician's damage control speech is not a true Democrat?
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:04 PM by RestoreGore
Isn't that a Bush tactic? My question is, would this speech even have been delivered had those videos not surfaced? Why did they have to before he approached the subject? So sorry if I can't melt into a puddle instead of seeing this as nothing more than a political speech by a politician looking for votes to remain with him after a damaging week. I didn't realize freedom of thought was such a rare commodity here. Personally for me, supporting a real Democrat in John Edwards was what I believed in. But candidates like Obama and Clinton in league with a party apparatus that wants its "first" one way or the other and a very willing media shot down that belief as well, even though John Edwards has the policies and actually set the tone of this campaign regarding the important issues. How do you intend to reconcile with Democrats who once again still feel they are being lead by their noses? One speech remedies all of it? Yeah, sure. Yes, nice words. Now where's the action and the policy? BTW, how much time has Obama spent in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina? Just curious.
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gcomeau (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:34 PM
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74. If it was just a damage control speech...
...he would have thrown Wright under the bus like a good cynical politician and downplayed any of the real tough issues as much as possible instead of doing what he did, which took a great deal of courage and personal integrity.

As for why he never gave this speech before the Wright videos surfaced, if he had you and a thousand other people would have been in here screaming about how he was trying to turn the election into being all about race when there was no need to give such a speech.
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 03:06 PM
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79.  Well then by your logic he has then turned this into being about race today
So what's your point? It was a typical damage control speech given by a politician looking to not lose votes while covering for his friends. I would believe the same even if it were Clinton under the same circumstances, and it did nothing to move me towards him anymore than I was yesterday because this is not about race to me but issues that are not being discussed because of all this diversion. He still favors nuclear power, his climate change proposals like Clinton's are weak at best, he wants to continue this war on terror, he has reneged according to his own advisor regarding pulling out troops from Iraq, he voted to fund this war many times in 2007 as well as voting to confirm Rice, Chertoff, and others which he never gave a speech to explain, and has a healthcare plan that excludes millions while favoring corporations that he has also stated he wants to sit at the table with. I am not then going to just gush and forget his policies because he gave a speech designed to appeal to peoples' "emotions" to make us forget that.
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crud76 (111 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:19 PM
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121. Thanks
There's even more that could be said.
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 01:58 PM
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65. Dupe n/t
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:02 PM by RestoreGore
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:06 PM
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66. Kick
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:08 PM
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67. It was a great speech!
I was so very proud for him and our party. We have changed the direction of our vote to Obama, he gives us hope and will put a great face on us as a nation!
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:09 PM
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68. Thanks OMC
Well said. :toast:
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:16 PM
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70. Thanks! K&R!

:toast:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 02:19 PM
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71. Yay! K and R
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doyourealize1 (211 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:20 PM
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72. good post
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:23 PM
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73. The Second OP From You This Week That Is Thoughtful - WTF!!!
Have you been sipping the Kool-Aid.

:rofl:


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Utopian Leftist (150 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:38 PM
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75. Excellent post!
Does anyone know if the speech has been posted somewhere or on youtube yet? I missed it. :(
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 02:38 PM
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76. This was fantastic. I hope it works.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 02:44 PM
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78. Excellent post with just one flaw.
I hate the term "true" being attached to anything, and your post would have worked just as well without it. To me, I always see that and think of when the Repubs say "True American" or "True patriot". It's not up to any of us to decide who is "true" anything. It's kind of a per peeve of mine. :)

Other than that...K&R! :toast:
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 03:37 PM
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80. K & R! Great analysis of a great speech!
:kick:
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 03:52 PM
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81. some of us will ignore his speech because we're waiting to see his actions. nt
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:57 PM
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88. The Actions Need To Start With You, Not With Him.
You seem to be putting an awful lot on his shoulders.

He spoke the message and spoke it well. It is a message every single democrat here should readily be able to embrace. What comes of that message, the progress we make as a country as indicated by that message, the awareness we can receive from that message, is all up to us, not him.

So ignoring his speech is the last thing you should do. Instead, you should listen to it with an open mind, realize that this isn't a candidate for president talking, but instead one of our most prominent democrats, and that the words are wise and something we all subscribe to and are proud of. We should then, through our actions, words, and interactions with others, do our part to help perpetuate this message and help it to ultimately become reality.

But the onus is on us, not him.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 08:21 AM
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163. Exactly! And that's maybe what's hard for some to take
It's up to US, not to any one of our politicians. If we think anyone at all is going to come in and solve these problems alone, we're living in a fantasy.

Want to work on the important issues? Put good people in office, yes, but then just get out and do it yourself.

Another good post, OMC.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:56 PM
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95. Yep. One distraction after another.
Concentrate on Hillary getting her tax returns done. She has less than a month. So you were saying action speak louder than words? She can't even do her damn taxes and she wants to be president? Sigh!!
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 03:59 PM
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82. K&R. Thank you OMC. We don't always agree but I think you always try to be fair.
:toast:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:07 PM
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83. The speech was an attempt at a sane, rational response to all of the media hype.
Obama did not duck the issue, he embraced it and told us we had better embrace it also. He was very graceful and elegant. He was presidential. I was struck by how petty and small Pat Buchanen was in hispost speech critique, how "yesterday" his shtick sounded, a sound bite stuck in the 80s and 90s.

Obama did a fine job of restoring intelligent discourse into the conversation. I doubt if anyone could have done it better.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:12 PM
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84. Once again, OMC cuts to the heart of it. A Democrat who makes me proud to be a Democrat
I don't always agree with OMC and we both can get a bit snarky, particularly when we feel DU is being used to spread misinformation. But there isn't a DUer whose posts I look forward to reading more. A gentleman, a scholar, and a DU hall of famer.
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DerekJ (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:19 PM
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86. Thanks OMC
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NoBushSpokenHere (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 04:20 PM
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87. Thank you OMC ... it was truly one of the best speeches I have ever heard nt
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krkaufman (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:10 PM
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90. Commendable post, OMC.
Though it's debatable that any threshold or litmus test for "true Democrat" should exist, I certainly feel that Obama's words and your post are excellent examples of liberal thinking, keeping an open mind and evaluation of ideas rather than strict adherence to ideology.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:47 PM
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125. I have to disagree with you about the test for a 'true Democrat'
There are a few things I think make a true democrat:

1. Do you believe in the democratic process?

2. Do you believe a poor man or woman is just as worthwhile as a rich one?

3. Do you believe in civil and human rights?

4. Do you value real live human beings over artificial constructs such as corporations?

I'm sure that if we thought about it, we could come up with a set of principles that all Democrats could agree define what it means to be a Democrat. They could be very different from what I proposed.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Mar-19-08 11:24 AM
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170. You mean like a platform?
Gosh, why didn't we think of that before...?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:18 PM
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91. Excellent post OMC. K&R
Excellent. :toast:
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Tresalisa (510 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:46 PM
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92. I thought it was a GREAT speech, also! Thanks for the OP, OMC! Kicking. n/t
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:50 PM
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93. He was very statesman like remnded me of Gore a touch too.
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Danger Mouse DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 06:53 PM
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94. I was actually wondering what your reaction to the speech would be.
Excellent remarks. K+R
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:04 PM
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96. What? YOU wrote this???
:wtf:

:sarcasm:

Kidding. Nice post! :beer:

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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:08 PM
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97. Nice comment. It's good to see that you have an open mind.
Now you have an idea of why us Obama folks support him so much.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 07:09 PM
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98. Thank you, OMC.
Doesn't matter who you support, Obama's speech was important, and people need to look at the message he delivered. He cut through so much BS, and presented his thoughts in a way that wasn't demeaning to anyone. He said, yes, there is anger in the black community, and here's why. He said, yes, there is anger in the white community, and here's why. And he nailed it, IMHO.

It wasn't the end all, be all, of speeches on race in this country; rather, it was the beginning of talking about it in a different way. I hope a lot of people were paying attention.

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mudesi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:31 PM
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102. Easily one of the greatest speeches I've ever seen
You have to hand it to Mr. Obama. He is an extraordinarily gifted public speaker.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 07:32 PM
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103. Yes
:toast:
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:34 PM
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104. False democrats too!
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 07:41 PM
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105. Again, thank you for bringing some sanity to GD:P n/t
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NickMorgan (88 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:00 PM
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107. Bravo for principle!
A wonderful gesture of integrity, of principle over politics, or transcending the short term sports team mentality in service of the higher values of liberalism. You deserve commendation and respect!
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NYDem Observer (313 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:01 PM
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108. K&R
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:29 PM
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109. Absolutely, it was inescapably powerful
and rose above mere politics into timelessness.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 08:33 PM
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110. Thanks for your post. But do you extend your open-hearted Democratic
respect as well to people you judge to have small minds? To me, this is
as important as appreciating a great speech.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:41 PM
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112. All Democrats Have My Respect.
But a small mind, is still a small mind.

After all, not every dem is perfect. :P
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 08:56 PM
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114. Does a Democrat who once was a Republican have your respect?
Does a Democrat who becomes an Independent or a Green have your respect?

(These are sincere questions. I have many more.)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:03 PM
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116. Feel Free To Send Me A PM If You'd Like.
Sounds like you've got a lot you wanna say lol.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 09:10 PM
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118. ok.. thanks for the invitation. nt
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 08:59 PM
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115. K&R. And a toast to you, sir.
:toast:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:17 PM
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119. Thank you. nt
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damonm (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:19 PM
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120. OMC, I misjudged you...mad props & a K&R
:yourock:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:22 PM
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122. k&r
Good post OMC.
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mhoran (289 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:36 PM
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123. Thank you!
An eloquent response to an eloquent speech.
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aaronbees (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 09:42 PM
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124. You have a big heart, OMC
Just like the big heart behind Obama's speech today and the core values we cherish as Democrats. Thank you for this post; it's spot on right. :toast:
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 10:23 PM
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126. I'm a true Democrat - and I found it SAD and SORELY LACKING - BIG TIME!
sorry - I just didn't see it - along with the REST of America who's not part of the cult...

you guys just don't get it...
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 10:54 PM
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128. I APPLAUDE you for your gracious words!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: Nothing else needs to be said.You covered it all, as did Obama.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:05 PM
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129. I appreciate your saying that, OMC. And I feel the same way.
:toast:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:11 PM
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132. it was a great speech and I would vote for him if he is the nom...
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elixir (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:19 PM
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133. It was a speech he made because he's in trouble. He didn't denounce Wright and now he's backpeddlin
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Mar-18-08 11:21 PM
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134. Actually, it was a forward peddle...you just can't see that.
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1800flowers (24 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:24 PM
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135. How did Chris Matthews' leg respond to the speech? n/t
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trickyguy (451 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:31 PM
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136. "From every walk of life.
From every camp." That's what you just said. And I totally understand your
comments and I totally understand Obama's speech.

Because I'm from a different "camp". But I'm also a working Democrat
who's really proud to say that- especially today.
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ksquire (110 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-18-08 11:31 PM
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137. THAAAAANK YOU!! I like to think i'd be wise enough to feel the same if/ when Hillary does something
as good for the country. thanks for helping us keep our eye on what's important.