Are you a Kerry supporter?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

Poll question: Are you a Kerry supporter?

I've seen a lot of posts lately saying 'Kerry supporters' are trying to 'silence criticism' at DU.


Well, it got me to wondering just how many Kerry supporters there are here... ( and also, who the other folks support, but that is a separate question). So


Are you a Kerry supporter?

[ulysses]

1. "are you now, or have you ever..."

:) Voted option #1.

[walldude]

2. Well.. sort of

Since he's what we got I'm going to vote for him but I would have rather seen Dean, Clark or Edwards take the nomination. Kerry is a member of Skull and Bones, the same Yale secret society as Daddy Bush. Sorry but "secret" societys belong to the rich and people with secrets to keep...

[salonghorn70]

3. Strongly For Kerry

Although I did not support Kerry in the primaries (I was for Clark), I am strongly Pro-Kerry. I think that he is a wonderful candidate. Of course, I'd support that ol' yellow dog if he were running. :)

[AntiCoup2K4]

4. Ask me after the convention.

Or sooner, depending if he announces a running mate.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

5. I'm asking now.

The poll is anonymous, so there's no reason not to tell the truth when answering.

[Exgeneral]

8. I don't like him

never have. He's an elitist prig.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. Glad to know your opposition is based on such well-reasoned arguments.

:eyes:


BTW, I didn't ask if you liked him.

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[sangh0]

21. And thank you for your, umm

what exactly do you call that?

:shrug:

Oh yeah, "constructive criticism"

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

24. Do you have anything to add besides criticism of other DUers?

Just wondering if you have anything to say that is not a comment on someone else.

We're listening and waiting for a comment that expresses your own opinion about an idea, an issue or a public figure, rather than your opinion of some other DUer.

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

30. You seem to know more about me than I do, so why don't you tell us?

I didn't know I had an obsession with Stalin until I read your post, so it's news to me.


Why don't you tell us all about me and my obsession -- I'm all ears.

[sangh0]

20. Besides, I think the law allows you to change your mind

Though I could be wrong about that

[peace4all]

51. I will support him full time after the convention

until then its DK all the way!

[sundancekid]

6. full support from me, including passing along all that would help him

For example, here's a thoughtful analysis (including link to Buzzflash full story)

<snip>
MEMO TO JOHN KERRY: START PROSECUTING, AND STOP PONTIFICATING
Mr. Kerry, I’m not asking you to change your personality. And if you can’t get back to the intensity of your post-Vietnam days, I can understand that. But you once were a prosecutor and a tough one at that. Perhaps you can channel some of that energy, because it’s time to get past the lectures and the tendency to give even an inch to Bush. If you can’t display a steady passion, how about being doggedly prosecutorial?

For example, instead of pontificating about "staying the course," whatever that means, pick up on Clark’s question about what the heck the mission of our troops really is? Drill it into the media’s collective brain, over and over. The more you repeat it and the longer the silence from the Bush side, the more doubt about Bush takes root. More importantly, you will appear to be on the OFFENSE rather than constantly being put on the defensive by the Bush operatives and the media.

There are plenty of questions you can pepper into the voters’ consciousness. In fact, I think the public already has plenty of questions that they would love to see someone like you ask for them. Checking out our local papers, I see a whole slew of questions being asked in letters to the editors. For example, this week readers are asking:

"Quo vadis, Mr. Bush? Where are you headed and where are you trying to take our nation?"

"If the war in Afghanistan was so important to get bin Laden and al-Qaeda, why did Bush take $700 million away from that war to prepare a war on Iraq?"

"Don’t you feel safer knowing that the country’s terrorist warning is "yellow" instead of "red" under the Homeland Security Administration?"

"What we have leading our country in Washington is a bunch of war hawks who have already turned our country’s national debt into the biggest debt ever in the history of our country. Even your grandchildren’s children will be paying it off. Is that the future of this country that you want to see?"

"If President Bush can make deals with OPEC nations to lower gas prices, why isn’t he doing it now, while Americans face record prices at the pump, instead of using that influence to manipulate the election?"
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http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/04/con04179.html

[TheFarseer]

7. im not really for Kerry

only against Bush

[H2O Man]

10. I am supporting Kerry

100%. I look closely at the teen-aged boys, and the young men in their early twenties. And I know that we do not have the luxury of debating tiny insignificant things, when the lives of thousands of these fellows rests in the balance in November. A young man who went to school with my oldest son, who slept in the same tent my boy did at scout camp, and who always nodded politely to me at school events, died a few weeks ago in Iraq. They shipped a few pieces of him back in a casket, because the rest of him was simply blown away in the explosion that killed him. And I know that many more of these boys will be blown away, and our society will not survive another four years of bush. And so while I appreciate some of the different opinions, I feel that we need to work hard to stop the war. It can't be stopped with bush in office. With Kerry, we have a chance.

[union_maid]

11. Been quiet lately, but 100% behind Kerry

I've had a lot going on so have been posting very little, but I've been behind Kerry since it became clear that he was going to win the nomination. He wasn't my first choice, but I think he'll make one of the best presidents we've seen in this country and I hope and even pray for the sake of the US and for the sake of the world that he does win.

[eridani]

12. Yes, after the convention in July

Until then, Dennis Kucinich all the way!

[ACK]

13. And I back that up 100%

Especially as a Kerry supporter.

By the way Koko01 has a petition to move the platform more left floating around on the threads.

Make sure to sign up.

[eridani]

14. Signed, sealed and delivered

Also, I've downloaded a bunch for soliciting signatures at the LD caucus this Saturday in WA, and the King County convention next week.

[IndianaGreen]

15. I support Dennis Kucinich

and I will be voting for him in the Indiana primary on May 4.

[jonnyblitz]

17. I am voting for him. n/t

[LWolf]

18. Yes.

I support him in his campaign to defeat GWB.

I don't support some of his positions on the issues, and will continue to tell him so.

[Forkboy]

19. who can tell?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. could you please expand on your answer?

This isn't a competition to see how few words you can put in your post, it is supposed to be a discussion.

So I respectfully ask that you elaborate so that we may more clearly understand your point.

Thank you.

[Forkboy]

26. I choose not to

And I say that respectfully back at you.I honestly dont care if other DUers can understand my points or not.My opinions are just that,my opinions.I dont mind if you agree with them,disagree with them,ignore them or worship them.That is your choice.I feel no compulsion to expand on them for the sake of others however.You are free to take that in any way,shape or form you like.If you believe I'll vote for Kerry that's great.If you believe I'm a freeper plant that's great to.I simply dont care what others think of me.I'm not the issue.

I would suggest to you that if my minimalist approach to posting so upsets you or others that you utilize the ignore feature.

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[Forkboy]

39. You sure seem bothered

I dont care if you put me on ignore or not,that's your choice.I dont care if you want to challenge me either.That also is your choice.

It is my choice not to expound on anything to YOU.To be blunt Fean,you demonstrated to me perfectly well your level of intellectual honesty months ago with our first exchange.I simply dont feel that you are worth the explanation.

laughable, weak, and pathetic.

You're too hard on yourself bud.

As far as 'ignore' - if you want to participate at DU you will have to deal with the fact that your comments may be challenged. So deal with it.

I can participate in any fashion I choose as long as it doesn't violate the rules of DU.You are not the DU police,much as you try.I would highly suggest that you accept my answer,or non-answer,and move on instead of hounding me.I owe you nothing and that's what you're getting.So deal with it.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

44. Tell me more about my feelings

Also, I'd like to hear more about my level of intellectual honesty

LOL


I would highly suggest that you accept my answer,or non-answer,and move on


No, I won't be taking your suggestion. If you post something that appears meaningless to me, I will ask you what it means. And that is my way of dealing with it.

:hi:

[Forkboy]

45. Your choice

[Feanorcurufinwe]

46. Yes

[Forkboy]

47. nice edit

[Feanorcurufinwe]

43. No, I won't be putting you on 'Ignore' - sorry.

I honestly dont care if other DUers can understand my points or not.

That's an interesting viewpoint -- you are posting, but you don't care if you are communicating? Puzzling.


If you believe I'll vote for Kerry that's great.If you believe I'm a freeper plant that's great to.I simply dont care what others think of me.I'm not the issue.

An even more bizarre viewpoint. I asked you to explain what you meant, and you respond by accusing me of making you the issue? You aren't the issue, the fact that your post appears devoid of meaning is the issue.

I would suggest to you that if my minimalist approach to posting so upsets you or others that you utilize the ignore feature.

This I really find hilarious! If you want to participate on DU your comments just might be challenged -- deal with it.

[mobuto]

56. The purpose of communication

is to communicate.

If your communication fails to communicate, then you have failed.

I honestly dont care if other DUers can understand my points or not.My opinions are just that,my opinions.

Then your postings are the electronic equivalent of singing in the shower.

Maybe you just might want to eschew cryptic irrelevancy and instead attempt to, I don't know, communicate. Otherwise, what's the point?

[Forkboy]

57. So be it

Then your postings are the electronic equivalent of singing in the shower.

:shrug:

I dont have to have a point that you all find acceptable.Ain't democracy wonderful?

[mobuto]

58. I don't care whether your point is acceptable.

Its not that I agree with what you're saying or disagree with it, its that your comments are not cogent. You fail to communicate. If your comments are so cryptic that no one can understand what you're saying, the problem is at your end, not ours.

[Forkboy]

59. But who says no one can understand them?

I can.My friends here and elsewhere can.

My "who can tell" comment was an inside joke with me and someone else who reads DU.It's a reference to an episode of the Young Ones.My friend laughed his ass off.I'd say I communicated just fine.

This seems to boil down to the fact that some dont get it and dont like that.That's simply not my problem.I'm not trying to inform or amuse those people.I'm playing to a different audience,so to speak.

:shrug:

[TruthIsAll]

61. You doth protest too much. If you want to communicate with your friends,

call them on the phone; if you want to communicate with DUers, please do.

The choice is yours. Whether you like Kerry or hate him is NOT the issue. But if you like Bush and want to see him reselected, then please get the hell out of here.

The point is, we are here to discuss our views, not play games.

[El Supremo]

31. Hell, I'm a Kerry delegate.

But nobody's perfect. I am open to people criticizing him.

32. I Prefer Dean, But Will Vote Kerry

because Dean isn't the nominee. Pretty simple stuff.

But where is my support?

Shit...

I support the Democratic Party in its effort to kick the lying, stinkin', idiot frat boy that stole our Whitehouse, straight back to Texas with a big blue footprint planted squarely (toe first) on his big ole simian ass.

So I voted "Not Sure"

[Classic_Liberal712]

33. Kerry escaped

alot of criticism during the debates and primary's because everyone was arguing how not Bush they were. Well now the people have chosen the most unBush they could with some chance at winning. What does Kerry stand for. This may sound like a RNC talking point but I don't see what JFK Part Deux really has to offer

[Feanorcurufinwe]

34. If you honestly want to know what Kerry stands for:

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches
http://www.johnkerry.com/about
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0421103
http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry

Just do a little reading.

[jsanteramo]

35. Go Kerry!

I think Kerry will be a great president. There is no need for the criticism. We need to all rally behind Kerry!

[hedgetrimmer]

36. Support is a variable word. Does "vote for" and "support" mean the same?

Or is the content deeper? Does, "I worship the ground you walk and you can do no wrong John Kerry -o and yes, I will vote for you" mean the same as "support".

If he gets the billing of the Democrat party I've agreed to vote for his candidacy however, I do not "support" him... I believe he will be a continuing corrosion of the rights of the men women and children of this country and abroad... further advancing the agenda of a few self-proclaimed elitist that we the masses blindly follow. I do not support John Kerry but I've agreed to vote for him.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

48. Assume the words mean what you would mean if you used them in this context

Just vote based on your understanding of the meaning of the words in the poll.

[hedgetrimmer]

62. No. I would not have used the same language... it is too pigeon holing

I will not vote in your poll and John Kerry can not expect my support.

[surfermaw]

37. When I changed my mind

I was watching the Debates when Kerry was behind, some terrible thing had happened in Iraq, now remember I am and Edwards supporter, and liked the Doctor...One night I was standing in my room watching the debates, and all of a sudden it hit me. It is Kerry we need to head the ticket, because we are in such a mess made by republicans, that we need his experience his knowledge of Washington, and his experience of fighting a war.. I have always thought if we got back into another Vietnam, it would be when we had President that had never been to war, or witnessed a war.
Come on forget your differences, and get Kerry e lected....or you will have Bush for another 4 years, and who knows if we will have a free election after 4 more years like the last three

[virtualobserver]

38. I'll vote for Kerry unless there is a better option

Kerry has been unimpressive so far.

[PSU84]

42. I just sent another $50 to John Kerry for President

and I and going to give more in a couple of weeks ... and then more after that ... and more after that.

This is the most important election since FDR/Hoover in 1932. The future of democracy and the Bill of Rights are at stake.

[Capn Sunshine]

49. as an aside...177 responses

That's the number of posters here? I would have thought it was higher.

[bigwillq]

50. Hell's yeah! (nt)

[vision]

52. I "support" DK

DK has earned my cash and my voice. When Kerry is the nominee he will get my vote but he has to "earn" my support. Since I have already declared that I will vote for him and I am not wealthy man than I doubt that my "support" is that important to him.

[kodi]

53. i'd vote for a yellow dog before i'd vote for bush

the problem as i see it is where can we find a yellow dog?

[jsw_81]

54. How the heck could anyone be "undecided" at this point?!?

There are two choices in November: Bush or Kerry. Not Nader, not Dean, not Kucinich, only Bush or Kerry. Period. Nobody else stands a snowball's chance in hell of being elected.

If you care about this country and its future, you'll vote for Kerry. There's far too much at stake this year for you to sit this one out and whine just because Kerry isn't perfect in your eyes.

[mobuto]

55. I couldn't support Kerry more if I wanted to

Actually I do want to, but its hard to excede unconditional support. Godspeed, Senator.

[Nicholas_J]

60. Absolotely from day one

I have supported Kerry, and even more closly sudied his opponnets for the nomination and found that they had far more wanting in their political careers than Kerry.

His closest opponents all had political pasts that were far more subject to being used to marginalize them during a national campaign, and in fact some of them had careers and poitical histories that were diametrically opposed to the platforms they were running under for the nomination. Sone had political pasts that were far more politically conservative than Kerry and in many cases, far closer to the political record of the predident who is in office, so Kerry is the only candidate who could run on their past record with far fewer past choices to justify.

[Only Me]

63. Absolutely. n/t