BILL CLINTON ON RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW 3/4/08 (for the deniers, a screenshot)

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

Bill Clinton went on the Rush Limbaugh Show 3/4/08, the day of the
Texas and Ohio primaries.

Note all of the encouragement on the webpage
to "dittoheads" urging them to cross over and vote for Hillary, to make
the primary drag on. The goal - to divide dems and help McCain.

webpage:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030408/home.html

[NightWatcher]

1. wow, pro hillary, mocking gitmo, and bill went on the show.

nice job clintons

[MyNameGoesHere]

7. perhaps you missed the

These Clintons are like cockroaches? Hardly seems pro Clinton. And this is a Texas radio station that like 1000's of other little shit hole radio stations run a rush limpballs show. It was a guest host on (WBAP) radio not with limpballs but a guest host. Facts are a little strange sometimes .

[NightWatcher]

10. I do see the whole picture. Rush hates the Clintons but Bill still went on his show to pitch for Hil

and the show was on Rush's huge series of stations. It just so happened that the guest host was taking rush's place, but this was not an isolated Texas broadcast.

How dumb was Bill to go on Rush's show when he mocks them openly on is site and mentions that the only reason he wants repukes to vote for her is to screw up the Democratic party process. Bill was/is either dumb or blinded by greed and power to the point that he doesnt see what is happening.

[marshall]

14. I can't believe people are making excuses for Bill going on the show.

What difference does it make if it was a guest host? It was the day of the primary, that was the issue. The day that Rush had been urging his erstwhile listeners to vote for Hillary to keep the fires burning in the Democratic house.
Is there NOTHING the Clintons can do that wouldn't be defended by their followers?
Get ready for the defense when Hillary endorses McCain against Obama after the primaries. Then we will really be seeing words parsed.

[MonkeyFunk]

42. Because Bill didn't go on the show

I can't believe how many people here make excuses for liars.

[MyNameGoesHere]

27. But if your candidate wants to "embrace" the opposition and make

kissy poo with them it's ok?

[Skwmom]

37. The Clintons and Right Wing Radio - An Unholy Alliance.

[MonkeyFunk]

41. Nope

Bill Clinton didn't go on the Rush Limbaugh show. It's a lie spread by Andrew Sullivan.

[marshall]

65. A rose by any other name....

So Rush wasn't hosting the show on the day of the primary, his fellow right winger Mark Davis was. Six of one, half dozen of another. Clinton knew the audience he was pandering to by going on a show like that on the day of an primary in a state where Rush had been convincing his followers to vote for Hillary.
Clinton is not stupid. I can't be convinced that he didn't know who Mark Davis is, or that he substitutes for Rush on a regular basis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Davis_(talk_show_host)).

[MonkeyFunk]

66. Nonetheless

Clinton never appeared on Rush's show. He appeared via telephone on Mark Davis' local show in Texas. It was later replayed on Rush's show.

The OP is a lie.

[marshall]

68. My point is Mark Davis and Rush Limbaugh are two sides of the same coin

A right wing talk show host by any other name is still a right wing talk show host. I live in the Dallas area--Mark Davis is an acolyte of Rush Limbaugh's. He parrots and praises what Rush says and does, and every few weeks he substitutes for him. I can't believe that Clinton would be ignorant enough to not know the connections.

[MonkeyFunk]

69. Then start a thread complaining about

Bill going on the Mark Davis show. THIS thread is a lie.

[marshall]

70. It's not a lie--again we are parsing the meaning of words

It depends on what the meaning of "to be on" a show is. It is a quibbling of semantics, but it is not a lie.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

71. Oh its the Clintons again, telling us "words don't matter" & don't look at Limpballs website/show

according to Limpballs himself. He may have been out "sick" that day,
but it was the "Rush Limbaugh" show, and is posted on Limpballs website.

Clinton apologists (many of us used to be those in the 90's, will tell
everyone - don't believe your eyes, dont believe what you feel, listen to us.

I can see Bill sticking his finger out there, wagging it like he would wag it in our faces.

[MonkeyFunk]

72. It's a lie

Bill Clinton did not appear on the Rush Limbaugh show. He appeared on the Mark Davis show.

This is an Andrew Sullivan-created lie, and you suckers fell for it.

[creeksneakers2]

73. Please see the truth of this

The website doesn't say Clinton was on Rush's show. It says a guest host that interviewed Clinton was and the guest host, not the interview, was on Rush's show. What is said on the site in consistent with the guest host conducting the interview elsewhere.

Even if the website had a photos and everything not one word of it could be believed because Rush Limbaugh is right wing propaganda and almost nothing they say there is true, except when they say they hate liberals.

I think the whole interview is a patched together soundbite fraud actually.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

79. EIB Guest Host While Rush Is Sick-Mark Davis: "Mark Interviews Bill Clinton (no, really)"

EIB Guest Host While Rush Is Sick

Mark Davis of WBAP Dallas/Ft. Worth

• Mark Interviews Bill Clinton (no, really)

And on Rush's website, he urges Dittoheads to vote for Hillary, and apparently
119,000 did in Texas, and exit polls show these voters HATE Hillary

[MonkeyFunk]

81. Yes

it was an interview pre-recorded earlier in the day, when Clinton appeared on Mark Davis' local show in Texas.

You really should stop pushing this lie after it's been repeatedly exposed for what it is.

[Lannigan]

86. Is there a way to really make MonkeyFunk's reply stand out?

You are right! He was NOT on Rush's show...the OP is very misleading.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Holy Crap! I Thought This Was A Sarcastic Joke Post, But It Really Happened!

Here's the recording - OxyRush had a guest host that day.

http://images.radcity.net/5155/2461772.mp3

Sad.

[MelissaB]

15. I just listened to that.

:( Thanks for the link.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. No it didn't happen

Bill Clinton didn't on Rush Limbaugh's show. It's a lie started by Andrew Sullivan, encouraged by Rush and spread by liars on DU.

[MannyGoldstein]

57. Is That Link Phoney? [nt]

[MonkeyFunk]

62. Yes it is

it implies Bill Clinton went on the Rush Limbaugh show.

He did not.

He went on the Mark Davis show (via telephone) on WBAP in Texas that morning. Davis later substituted for Limbaugh and replayed the interview.

It's like saying that if Limbaugh plays part of an Obama speech, that Obama appeared on Limbaugh's show. It's absurd.

[MannyGoldstein]

63. Isn't Mark Davis Also A Crazed Right-Wing Tool?

I guess my question is answered by his guest-hosting on Limbaugh.

Ugh.

[MonkeyFunk]

67. I have no idea

never heard of him before you guys started spreading this lie.

But the fact remains, Clinton didn't go on Limbaugh's show.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

80. no, check it yourself. Meanwhile, Clinton supporters mirror Rush again

Clinton supporters must be getting their talking points from Limbaugh,
or vice verse:

They post frequent anti obama/Wright OPs, AND Rush posts frequent anti obama/wright speels:

Our Daily Rev. J. Wright Segment
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031808/content/01125111.html.guest.html

[MonkeyFunk]

82. Yes it's phony

Bill Clinton did not appear on the Rush Limbaugh show. It's a lie that you're spreading.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. Bill Clinton also went on FAUX News, and put Chris Wallace in his place.

Nobody is better when under fire than Bill Clinton... :-)

Bill Clinton Fox News Sunday Interview w/ Chris Wallace pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5TkWGsmZF0

Bill Clinton Fox News Sunday Interview w/ Chris Wallace pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hmi6RkytRM&feature=related

[KittyWampus]

18. Is Fox News Investigating Hillary's Spiritual Mentor Doug Coe on a daily, inflammatory basis?

[rodeodance]

31. I imagine you and other obamafolk can get a pettion going and have them do it??

[Rhiannon12866]

40. I wouldn't know, LOL, since I can't stomach tuning in to FIXED News for even a minute.

After Obama's "Countdown" interview, he was supposed to then appear on FAUX, but we couldn't stand having it on long enough to wait for him to appear... x(

But I have MSNBC on just now and they are still discussing Obama's pastor, from all angles, have been all morning. *sigh* :-(

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. It Was A Guest Host, Was It Not?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. Well that makes it totally okay then. nt

[LostinVA]

17. He was NEVER on the show, OMC

See my reply downthread.

I am really tired of the lies on here, from all sides.

[marshall]

64. It depends on what your definition of "on" is.....

I guess that's how it goes.

[rodeodance]

74. When you know the truth and deliberately distort you on no better than Rove.

[mod mom]

5. Here's a transcript of LIMBAUGH pushing Republicans to vote for Hillary:

▪ What might have actually happened in Ohio and Texas? Tin foil hat?
▪ Clip:
: "Rush, I understand that the Rush Limbaugh audience is mobilizing in Texas for Hillary. Am I hearing that right?"

: "I don't know if the audience is mobilizing or not. I am urging people — I am using a phrase — the Republicans — our nominee is chosen. It's John McCain.

Texas is open. And I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.

As you probably know, we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying not to be critical there. Mark MacKinnon of McCain's campaign says he'll quit if they get critical over Obama.

This is the presidency of the United States you're talking about. I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose. They're in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch, and it's all going to stop if Hillary loses.

So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it — I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton — but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too."

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=609&Itemid=113



HILLARY-THE GOP'S ONLY CHANCE IN NOVEMBER~

[MyNameGoesHere]

6. Is this the same WBAP in Texas?

I did not know limpballs was stationed out of Texas. Was Clinton on before or after the Midnight Trucking Radio network?

[MonkeyFunk]

51. Yes, Bill appeared on Mark Davis' show

in Texas (via telephone) that morning. Later that day, Davis subbed for Limbaugh and replayed the interview.

[YOY]

8. JESUS...did you have to take the entire screen

The Club Gitmo shit is beyond reproach.

[knixphan]

9. (shiver)

I had to shower after going to Rush's site...

[mopinko]

11. i'm headed for the shower right now.

ok, i was supposed to be on my way right now anyway. but i didn't feel dirty till i saw that screen shot. eeeewwwwwww.

[jhain]

12. MY EYES!!!!

Warn a person!

And, in addition to all else- Bill really shouldn't be around images of cigars.

[LostinVA]

16. No, he wasn't -- and this has been debunked many times on DU

He did a telephone interview with a Texas radio host. That host later acted as a sub for the Limbaugh show, where he played his interview with President Clinton.

[Rhiannon12866]

21. Thanks for the clarification. I saw his FIXED News interview (the video, not live *sigh*),

but Rush Limbaugh is just beyond the pale, just a hatemonger and doesn't even make a pretense at being a news show...:puke:

[LostinVA]

22. I don't like Dem politicans going on Fox, but I understand why they do

But, yeah, Rush would be too much for ANYONE to go on.

[Rhiannon12866]

56. I don't, either, and I couldn't do it. It takes someone with nerves of steel and who's a brilliant

speaker, like Bill Clinton or Obama. We tried to watch Obama on FIXED News after his Olbermann interview, but couldn't stand watching it long enough to wait for him to appear...x(

As for Rush Limbaugh, he just "pulls it out of his a**," as Al Franken used to say. There's just no point in dealing with the likes of him, unless you're a masochist... :puke:

[SaveAmerica]

25. It clearly says on the screen shot that Rush is sick and he will have a sub host

"EIB Guest Host while Rush is sick" (wouldn't that be every day?). Then it goes on to say "Mark Davis of WBAP Dallas Fort Worth" (Mark is the Rush sub on Rush's show") Then it says Mark interviews Bill Clinton - no really! (It's almost like they're talking to you). To Recap, Rush was sick so he had a sub who interviewed Bill Clinton and the interview was aired on Rush's show. On the same day they're advertising Bill Clinton be interviewed by Rush's sub, there's a cute cartoon calling Hillary and Bill cockroaches that will be around til the end of time. This is all current events stuff, not to mention what Rush has said in the past about the Clinton's, what was Bill thinking? I just don't get it.

Edit LostinVa, have you been following the Clinton campaign closely? I'm googling info about this sub host of Rush's show to try to understand this better and wonder if you heard the interview or saw any information from the Clinton campaign before he went on the show? I've never heard of this guy, since he was on Rush's show I googled 'Mark Davis and conservative talk show host' and confirmed that he is conservative guy. I'm just confused about this and trying to understand why they'd go on a conservative anything.

[LostinVA]

29. Again, Clinton was NOT on Rush's show

He gave a phone interview to the host of a local conservative-leaning show. The host of that show subbed for Rush's show. He played Clinton's phone interview on that show.

Want to talk about the "700 Club"?

I never, EVER bash on here. I hate this crap.

You don't like either of the Clintons? FINE. Don't like them, but at least don't have that dislike based on something FALSE.

[SaveAmerica]

52. Please read again, that's exactly what I said. Where did I say I don't like

one of, let alone either of the Clintons? I'm trying to figure stuff out here and you're not helping me one bit.

I'm starting to think that so many of us are so desperate that we are saying and doing things without thinking them through and ending up being less than helpful. Kind of like going on a show without thinking it through first. Read over our the past 10 or so responses here and see if you agree with that.

[creeksneakers2]

76. In the first place

It doesn't say that on the site.

It says:

Rush had a guest host on the show.
The guest host interviewed Clinton.

It does not say:

The guest host interviewed Clinton on Rush's show.

Second place
EVEN IF THE WEBSITE DID SAY THAT IT WOULDN'T PROVE ANYTHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING RUSH SAYS AND PUTS ON HIS WEBSITE IS A LIE


I spent a few days googling about this too and can't find much of anything. That shows me that the interview likely didn't take place at all.

[rodeodance]

34. yes, but those who want to push the LIE of the OP are willing to LIE themselves.

[redqueen]

19. No, he only went on a local rightwing blowhard's show, and then the interview was broadcast

on the Rush show.

More of a technicality than a huge frickin difference, but the devil's in the details.

[NightWatcher]

23. ok then, Why go on any 'right wing blowhard's' show?

and why allow yourself to be rebroadcast on el assbo?

was this more example of a poorly managed campaign strategy?

[redqueen]

28. To reach listeners. Why her campaign thought there would be

earnest supporters listening to that show... that's the real mystery. The people that listen to those types are the REAL Clinton-haters.

[RB TexLa]

33. 820 is a good news station, it's carries a lot of RWingers but it has

high ratings and much of it has to do with news and traffic.

[rodeodance]

35. Did Bill have the power to stop it?--I want to know.

[LanternWaste]

60. Does that apply to any candidate appearing on any right-leaning

"why go on any 'right wing blowhard's' show?"

Does that apply to any candidate appearing on any right-leaning infotainment program, including any appearances on Fox News?

[LostinVA]

24. I think there's a big difference in going on a local show v. Rush

It's local media, and much of local media is at least Right-leaning. It sucks.

[redqueen]

26. It's obviously a matter of individual taste.

Some people cry foul anytime a dem / liberal goes on fox or what have you... some do it only when certain dems / libs go on them... I don't think there's any hard and fast 'rule' about what's acceptable... seems to depend more on one's point of view.

[LostinVA]

32. I hate that Senator Obama went on "700 Club"

But I never came on here and lambasted him about it like some people did. Because of the point you made. I do, however, REALLY dislike out-and-out KNOWN FALSEHOODS being told on here to score some kind of weird points against a candidate. God, almost all I do on here any more is alert of this garbage.

[redqueen]

49. Exactly - but obviously even though you don't have a problem with it,

others do.

I can understand being frustrated with the association with Rush... but is it really an alertable offense? If the person posting it has had the facts pointed out to them before I suppose so... but I tend to think people might be honestly missing the detail that he didn't actually talk to Rush, or sign up to go on Rush's show.

[pschoeb]

85. So you hate that Hillary was on the 700 club as well?

I find your caring about peddling of falsehoods unbelievable, when you then try to make it look like it was bad for Obama to go on the 700 club, but don't mention that Hillary went as well?

[MonkeyFunk]

83. A technicality?

No. It's a lie.

[Exilednight]

20. Does it really surprise anyone that a Clinton would turn up on a neocon show?

[rodeodance]

38. Look How FOOLISH you look when you spread lies:--see this

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject No, he wasn't -- and this has been debunked many times on DU
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5134970#5135437
5135437, No, he wasn't -- and this has been debunked many times on DU
Posted by LostinVA on Tue Mar-18-08 09:25 AM

He did a telephone interview with a Texas radio host. That host later acted as a sub for the Limbaugh show, where he played his interview with President Clinton.

[L0oniX]

30. Hillary is so bad for the Democratic party that the republicans are voting for her

Republicans switch to vote for Clinton to help McCain
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?%2Fbase%2Fnews%2F1204709601137420.xml&coll=2

Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_clinton_to_boost_gop/

Republicans Turning Out in Droves to Vote for Clinton
http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/03/republicans_turning_out_in_dro_1.html

[NNN0LHI]

47. Barrack said Republican "supporters" were whispering to him they were Republican

He knew they were never going to vote for him in a general election yet he thought that was really cool.

Do you?

Don

[L0oniX]

53. Repukes are voting for Clinton to screw up our primary ...that is the difference.

Rush has been pushing for repukes to vote for clinton to cause problems. I don't Rush pushing them to vote Obama ...do you? Google "Republicans vote for Clinton" and you will see what they are trying to do.

[NNN0LHI]

54. I know exactly what they are trying to do thank you very much

Pity so many seemingly intelligent Dems fall for it.

Really is sad.

Don

[L0oniX]

58. dupe

[L0oniX]

59. Ok smart guy ...tell us what they are trying to do ...help your fellow dumb asses out.

:eyes:

[NNN0LHI]

36. When you need to make up lies you lose

Is that you Rush?

Don

[MonkeyFunk]

39. I wish people would stop lying

Bill Clinton did not go on the Rush Limbaugh show.

He went on the Mark Davis show that morning via telephone. Later that day, Mark Davis subbed for Limbaugh, and replayed the interview with Clinton.

The interview was posted on the WBAP website hours before the Rush Limbaugh show even began.

Honestly, do you REALLY think nobody would have noticed it here that day? Nobody did - it was only after Andrew Sullivan lied about it that people here started touting it.

Why people listen to Andrew Sullivan, much less believe him, is beyond me.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

46. Thank you Monkey Funk for clarifying that.

I wish you'd start a thread with that info. It will just be ignored, buried in this thread.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. I've been debunking this for over a week

and some people who've seen the debunking are on this thread pretending its new information.

Liars.

[redqueen]

50. Alert on them.

Reference the post where you or someone else corrected them.

That shit should be a bannable fucking offense.

[AZ Criminal JD]

77. When you belong to a cult nothing is a lie.

[HopeforChange]

43. I live in Texas and heard Limbaugh on Election Day

He was talking about Obama and just about every other word was Muslim.

[Exilednight]

44. Mark interviews Bill Clinton (no, really) right there in black and white on Limpballs page. Do.....

people honestly believe that Bill didn't know that this would turn up on Limpballs show?

[creeksneakers2]

78. I don't believe the interview is real at all

I think its a splice job with sound bites put together to sound like an interview. One of the many reasons I think that is that there is nothing on Google News about it except from a couple of right wing kook sites.

But if it is real, its hard to blame Clinton. I did find out that Clinton did 55 radio interviews on that same day. How is Bill supposed to know what a station will do with an interview after he records it?

[SaveAmerica]

55. I'm betting that Rush was not sick that day, this was planned ahead

between him and this Davis dude. It was just another way for Rush to muddy some already messed up waters and come out of it unscathed. Rush Limbaugh is playing us and I think we need to not help him out. I think we at Democratic Underground should not link back to anything Rush because of what he's promoting on his show between Obama and Hillary.

[still_one]

61. From the man who brought you the telecommunications act of the 90's

I wouldn't expect less

[better tomorrow]

75. media picking up how Rush is promoting Hillary

by encouraging crossover votes by Republicans, something they did well in Florida in 2004....but analysts say it can't make a difference. PA is where it is happening now. In my old hometown of 7,000 people, they have had over 700 people register Democrat. Way too high ration. And, it is an all Republican area so you know they aren't voting for a Democrat but trying to skew the results so that Hil gets the votes. The Clintons are in bed with the Repubs right now. I hope the media stays on top of this.....

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

84. Update: Limpballs bragging that "Operation Chaos" is hurting the Dems, helping McCain

Pigboy, Bill Clinton's friend says on 3/19/08:

"Obama is burning cash fighting Operation Chaos. Here's the latest poll numbers. "Barack Obama's big national lead over Hillary Clinton has all but evaporated in the U.S. presidential race, and both Democrats trail Republican John McCain, according a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday. The poll showed Obama had only a statistically insignificant lead of 47 percent to 44 percent over Clinton, down sharply from a 14 point edge he held over her in February. ... The poll showed Arizona Sen. McCain, who has clinched the Republican presidential nomination, is benefiting from the lengthy campaign battle between Obama and Clinton." Well, yes, which was the primary purpose of Operation Chaos. (laughing)

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031908/content/01125108.guest.html