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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:35 PM
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What do you think is in HILLARY's tax returns that's so intriguing?
maybe she hasn't even done them. Now that they haven't been released when asked for what do you think maybe in the tax records?

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:42 PM
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1. Like she hasn't done them for 2000 - 2006. Of course, Ickes has
hinted there will be nothing in the 2007 return (which is probably the bait and switch the Clintons are planning as they play the victim - they hounded me for my return b/c I am a woman and there is nothing there).

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:43 PM
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2. Most of the suspect income will be from Bill's side of their taxes
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 05:44 PM by DJ13
However, suppose Bill reported an overly large "speaking contract" or large income from an "advisory contract" that has direct ties to a corporation that had pending favorable legislation Hillary has authored or co-sponsored in the Senate, THEN theres an appearance of corruption.

That would explain why she refuses to release both her taxes and her earmarks.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:59 PM
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15. except she's not refusing to
she's said she will.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:28 PM
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16. She SAID she will? Actions speak louder than words....
All Hillary has are WORDS. Barack has actions!
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:49 PM
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33. How many people have their taxes done this early?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:59 AM
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50. Got my return before the end of January. Next question?
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 07:02 AM by JTFrog
Oh and the same for the past seven years. Can't imagine what would be holding up her 2000 return. Her xerox must be otherwise occupied.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:21 AM
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59. I'm sure the clintons can afford accountants?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:26 AM
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65. You do know we're referring to past taxes... not just this year's, right? (nt)
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 09:26 AM by redqueen
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:03 AM
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69. Lots have the 2006 returns all done
Hillary could have posted them - last year
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:05 PM
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72. We are not talking about 2007 taxes that are due April 2008....
We are talking about 2006 taxes that were due almost a year ago! DUH!

Obama disclosed them. Also the earmarks.

I have seen some doozy of excuses for Hillary not disclosing her tax returns, but I gotta say....yours is the most bizarro one yet!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:35 AM
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66. The Lady sez a lot of things that don't mean squat


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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:44 PM
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3. I'm supposing it would be war-profiteering stuff.
like investments in Halliburton, etc.

where bottom line means, her vote for the war profited the personal vaults of the Clintons on the backs and blood of thousands of soldiers and a million+ Iraqis.

but hey, 'Hillary has never been called a ****" !!!!

lets focus on that Original of all Sins known and unknown for now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:45 PM
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4. An explanation of why their net worth skyrocketed in the last few years.
And this isn't for current taxes, but past taxes, so all that "but they're not done yet" crap is just a cheap dodge which hopefully will stop working someday soon.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:47 PM
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32. Bill has been pimping himself out and cashing in on the presidency.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:06 AM
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55. .
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 08:07 AM by 4themind
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:47 AM
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57. Exactly.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:46 PM
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5. You honestly don't understand that we are asking about PAST tax records?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:47 PM
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6. Information for the voters. I can't imagine Hill hasn't done her 06, 05 and 04 returns. She should
release them immediatly unless she's got something to hide, in which case I would councel her not to release them.

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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:48 PM
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7. That's it, she hasn't filed in 8 years. Wait till the Republicans hear.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:34 PM
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25. not filed in 8 years????
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:48 PM
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8. Maybe there's a receipt from the Emperor's Club.
:P
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:36 PM
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26. what schedule would that come under?
medical expenses?:evilgrin:
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:03 AM
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44. LOL! Or maybe in Bill's case, office supplies. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:49 PM
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9. Hillary is releasing whole return - meaning Schedules - will Obama finally release Schedules then?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:21 PM
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21. She hasn't released ANYTHING
so it's fucking absurd for you to be making any demands. And I don't believe her anyway. What the fuck is hilly waiting for? We're talking about 2006.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:59 AM
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43. she releases her return 4/15 - and you know that
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:23 AM
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62. Still with the "what past taxes?" act, eh?
Not at all convincing...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:23 PM
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23. Hillary has released NOTHING... until she does, your statement is bullshit...
...
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:12 AM
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54. Why does this propaganda keep coming up? See link WITH Obama's FULL return including Schedules.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf

The Clintons and their supporters need to get up off the crap. Whatever they have done in the past 6 years is apparently illegal. Can't wait for the big time audit. I'm sure Bushco's IRS would love that.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:49 PM
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10. Nothing to see. She won't release her 2006 returns & 2007 will not be joint filed with Bill.
We'll learn nothing because they will hide everything.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:53 PM
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11. Library Donors...
Even more intriguing..

WHO would be owed favors by Billary if they took the white house again?

Remember the smiley happy people holding hands with Saudi royalty?


http://www.hillaryproject.com/
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:55 PM
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12. Cattle futures?
Worked pretty well for her in the past.

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:57 PM
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13. I dunno
What is she hiding?
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:58 PM
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14. remember when she said she would
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 05:58 PM by sweets
release them after she's the nominee. yeah, when it's too late for us to change our minds.

Jesus H. Christ
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:34 PM
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18. No Surprise. Bill pulled the same shit back in his day.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:33 PM
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17. Moving the goal posts... again...
Now she's not planning on releasing any financial information unless and until she is elected president? How can anyone support her latest stunt?

Is this really what you want in a president? Someone with a passing acquaintance with the truth?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:39 PM
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27. if she's waiting til after she is president then....
sh emust be hiding something that would be held back if she became the POTUS
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:40 PM
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19. Actually I do not care at all about her tax returns.
I am far more concerned that we end 8 years of republican misrule.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:40 PM
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28. but
we aren't going to end the fascist rule unless we have a decent Dem candidate.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:53 AM
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49. We are stuck with the two that are left.
Endlessly tearing each of them down does not help to end 8 years of republican misrule. Isn't that obvious? Just stop.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:47 AM
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68. agreed!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:18 PM
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20. i'm not sure of this
But the last time some old taxes weren't released for a long time, it was the ones with the 10,000 % profit in the cattle futures.

I think i read that some place.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:45 PM
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30. Cattle futures?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:22 PM
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22. The Clinton income went from $5 million in 2005 to $30+ million in 2006....

How?

Where did it come from?

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:52 PM
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34. Bill's speeches?
their taxable income must be huge? I wonder did they have many losses?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:24 PM
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24. She has dependents with her lesbian partners
that Bill doesn't know about.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:04 AM
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45. Calling a foul on that one! Let's not go there, please. n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:40 PM
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29. It's the fact that she is running for President that .....
all records for herself and her husband should be a part of the public record.

This includes all the donors to Bill Clinton's "Library".

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:53 PM
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35. they probably haven't heard of transparency?
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:59 PM
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41. Sad to say, they haven't
Complete accounting for every portion of her AND Bill's life is one of the open access areas that could make a believer out of me.

Sadly, this is NOT happening.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:20 AM
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58. people complain about the GOP for stonewalling
are we going to get stonewalling and lies in government for years here in the US?
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:47 PM
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31. Maybe they invested in Blackwater back in 2000
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:53 PM
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36. now that would be interesting?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:53 PM
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37. Probably a Saudi or two. nt
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:55 PM
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38. thats my guess too n/t
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:17 AM
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47. DING DING DING!!! And that's just the tip. This is gonna be big.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:22 AM
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61. we should know now before the GE
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:55 PM
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39. Expense account for the Fried Puppy Shack.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:57 PM
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40. A map to the buried treasure!
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 10:57 PM by theredpen
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:01 PM
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42. CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AGAIN! HillBillary Can't stay away from that
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:15 AM
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46. I just think politicians have a civic and ethical responsibility to be transparent fiscally
Whether there is anything on her tax returns is in some ways less important than the principle of Open and Transparent Government. Hillary's refusal to support these principles is very troubling to me -- but both she and her husband have always liked keeping secrets.

This is one of the largest reasons I support Obama. He's not perfect here, but he is a heck of a lot better than anyone else, and is deeply interested in improving the openness of government. Hillary isn't.
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:29 AM
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48. i will be interested to see if anyone tries to argue this point with you.
they are all elected officials, it shouldn't be a question of if or when we can see the stuff, it should be available to us from the very beginning.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:24 AM
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63. Well said! (nt)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:25 AM
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64. Yes, Hillary's hiding gives the wrong signal to voters!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:03 AM
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51. maybe something that might change people's minds about her?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:06 AM
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52. At the very least, she should have already released returns from
whatever years McCain and Obama have released theirs. If there's nothing to hide, why is she allowing people to think there is something there she doesn't want us to see? Either she's being very stupid or hiding something.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:07 AM
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53. Evidence of war profiteering. (nt)
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:07 AM
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56. Change you can xerox? More like tax returns you can xerox...
<http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/release-the-t-1.html>

Their current position - that they will release their returns around April 15 - is also bizarre. Did they file an extension for the past few years? If they didn't, the forms are available now. Throwing strange arbitrary future deadlines around is unacceptable flim flam.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:21 AM
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60. motel receipts for Bill?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:46 AM
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67. Huge donations from the RNC and other big repukes
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:02 AM
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71. I wouldn't be surprised
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:11 AM
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70. Any taxpayer can go back two years and redo their taxes based on current income or expenses....
It may be three years. So, releasing those past years may be premature.

In any event, I believe Hillary's Senate Financials cover more information than the federal tax return. I saw a link here on DU to Hillary's senate financials that listed income from speeches, including her husbands, and other income.

In addition, as a political candidate, her campaign finance reports are all public record.

Stick to trashing her IWR vote. That's still pretty hot stuff. But take care, since she joined so many Democrats in that voting it could very well damage the party's congressional chances in November.
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