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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:36 PM
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Who was the best dem president and how much experience did they have?
Not trying to start (or end) a flame war but after reading a lot here I am wondering what you all feel about it.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:37 PM
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1. Arguably Abraham Lincoln. He served 1 term in his State Senate.
Beyond that he was a lawyer.
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LuvMyPorsche Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:38 PM
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3. bad choice
Lincoln trampled the constitution 10X more than chimp.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:38 PM
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4. Ummmm--check his party affiliation.
:-(
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:47 PM
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26. Missed the "dem" part, though back then the two parties were basically opposites to what they are
In the 1910s-1920s they switched, more or less.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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34. Yup. I have to look it up periodically.
:hi:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:01 PM
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47. Southern Dems didn't start becoming Repubs until
Nixon's Southern strategy in 1968. REagan sealed the deal by talking about states rights (code for white rights) near the Mississippi town where 3 Civil Rights workers were murdered when he ran for President the first time.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:38 PM
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5. Lincoln served a term in the U.S. Congress.
He also was a Republican, not a Democrat.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 PM
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29. He didn't serve in the U.S. Congress. He lost the race to Douglass
The speeches he gave in that race did make him famous, however.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:49 PM
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30. He did serve one term in the House.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
It was his bid for the Senate that he lost. Even though he won the popular vote.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 PM
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38. Of course he did. He was elected in 1846 and served one term.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:56 PM by Benhurst
Look it up.

Sorry, SemiCharmedQuark. I got attached to your post instead of the one above it. :rofl:
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:53 PM
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42. My mistake, one term in the house
Still a very scant record
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 PM
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6. "Dem" President. Abe was the last honest Republican
And I distrust experience in office. People should stay on capital hill a decade or so and then return to the real world.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:17 AM
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71. Damn straight. 12 years, I've always said.
Four terms in the House or two Senate terms, max. Or, more likely 2 House terms, one Senate.

A dozen years is more than enough time for anyone.

I HATE seeing career politicians bragging of their 24 years of service, or 35 years in Washington.

Blech.

Go back home and get a REAL job.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 PM
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9. Wasn't President Lincoln a republican? nt
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:40 PM
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10. I thought he was a republican.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:06 PM
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52. He was in the US House of Representatives
1847-49
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:35 AM
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88. Ah. Lincoln was a Republican. He was the best Republican President. So you are half right.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:38 PM
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2. FDR and a lot 10 yrs NY Senate, Dem nom for VP in 21, NY Gov. 28 & Pres 32
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:46 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 PM
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7. Here is some info:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 PM
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20. thanks
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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21. Assist. Sec. of Navy, like TR. He also had Eleanor. nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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33. marrying Eleanor was one of the smartest thing he ever did....my fav women ever
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:04 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:46 PM
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67. Oh yes. Mine, too.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:02 AM
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78. Okay, time for the political version of a 'Kittens pix' thread: Eleanor picture:
Note that even she needed a cheat sheet to vote:

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:54 AM
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83. Hey I voted for Hillary on that same machine on Feb 5th.......pic
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 AM
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86. I voted on those in the late 70s. Very cool. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:14 AM
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80. Make sure you catch this video:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 PM
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8. FDR. And a decent amount of experience.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Asst. Secretary of the Navy during WWI (I stand corrcted... I had thought he was THE SecNavy)

Governor of NY for a number of years, which was considered a presumptive "potential president" position at the time. (NY was probably the biggest state in the 1920s... I don't know when CA would have passed NY)

Personal Life Experience: Overcoming near total paralysis through determination.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:51 PM
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37. No one knew about his paralysis
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:51 PM by Drachasor
To be fair
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:04 AM
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79. People DID know that he had trouble getting around. They did not know the degree...
to which he was disabled. That was the ONLY reason people tolerated ER traipsing through all those New Deal projects, because it was known he could not do so.

He was not able to dress himself and the presidential train rarely went over 35 miles per hour as he didn't really have the back muscles to stabilize himself for significant periods over that speed.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:40 PM
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11. here's some lists if like me you can't remember them all of the top of your head:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:40 PM
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12. Washington and he was just a man with hope.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:43 PM
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15. A democrat, but not a Democrat
The real father of our party was Andrew Jackson who was, unfortunately, kind of a rat bastard in many ways.

Though he was tough. He had several bullets lodged in him from a life-time of duels and bar-fights. Those bullets caused him great pain during his presidency.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 PM
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18. Ah, but did they smoke in those bars?
:rofl:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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22. Are you crazy? That would be dangerous!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:47 PM
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28. And those duels, damn they ran up our insurance costs
:rofl: - oh how far we have fallen...
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:04 PM
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50. Jackson was responsible for the Trail of Tears
when the Indians of the Southeast were forced to leave their homes and walk to a reservation in Oklahoma. So many people died that their route is known as the trail of tears.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:43 PM
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17. Not a Dem. either n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:41 PM
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13. The twenty-fourth president had the most appropriate experience.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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35. Good point.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:51 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
:thumbsup:
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:42 PM
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14. Is that picture you?
You're GORGEOUS! :loveya:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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23. The avatar is me, that pic is
My wife and DU'er AutumnMist :)

More photos of us both here, though I doubt you will think I am gorgeous...

http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z302/TheStraightStor... /
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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36. She's GORGEOUS! I'm envious. You're lucky! Best Wishes.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:53 PM
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41. No one ever tells her she is lucky....
what, am I that ugly? :)
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:05 PM
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51. Straight Story? Meet straight man! No offense. LOL!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:43 PM
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16. Franklin Delano Roosevelt...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 PM by Spider Jerusalem
who served one 2-year term as a state senator, seven years as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and two two-year terms as governor of New York. So he had a total of six years' experience of elective office, and thirteen years' experience of government service total.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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24. I foresee Obama being like FDR
People like to compare him to JFK and RFK but I see him more as a candidate who runs on a platform of moderation and reconciliation, then gets in there and brings sweeping progressive changes.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:00 PM
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46. I think whoever wins will have to be an FDR our greatest Dem Prez
because we are going to be facing very similar circumstances. We are going to need a leader who can give us hope.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 PM
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19. Thomas Jefferson
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:54 PM by chknltl
Well he was the first one at any rate! Oh and on edit I guess he had some prior experience too:
Governor of Virginia, 1779-1781
First Us Secretary Of State 1789-1793
Second Vice President: 1797-1801
Pretty fair set of credentials before becoming POTUS from 1801 to 1809
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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32. technically a Democratic-Republican, but yeah, he's a good one
though Jefferson didn't even want it on his tombstone (Univ. of VA, VA bill of religious freedom, and Declaration of Independence were his top 3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Part...

It's interesting to me that the parties have swapped sides back and forth on issues (e.g., Jefferson was an anti-federalist, huge on states' rights; Repubs more anti-slavery and civil rights at one time)
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:46 PM
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25. FDR by a long shot
He went out on a limb to get progressive ideas in place. He was the first president that
i remember. Pulled the country out of a big recession, too. All of his sons (i think) served in
WWII. z
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 PM
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39. I'm thinking FDR near the top of the list too nt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:47 PM
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27. FDR, he did have some experience as noted upthread, he also had polio
Here is his biography from the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Library

http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/fdrbio.html
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:49 PM
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31. Awesome link
Thanks for that! Will share with the wife tomorrow, she loves bio's and that is a pretty comprehensive link.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 PM
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40. Everything that Great Democratic President did for our country is under attack
needless to say-glad you like the FDR Library link enough to share.

Good night.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:55 PM
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44. was a strange child though, killing little birds & squirrels having them stuffed for his collection
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
I live near Hyde Park and the house is full of them...kind of weirded me out.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:54 PM
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43. In my lifetime - Bill Clinton - governor multiple times
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:58 PM
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45. Clearly Bill Clinton... an excellent President - experience: governor.
He was also an economic miracle worker!
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:07 PM
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54. I hope that is pure sarcasm
Being elected when a tech boom starts isn't a miracle, it's dumb luck.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:47 PM
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68. that wasn't very nice...Clinton was a great pres too got us out of debt & 1st huge surplus
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:01 PM
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48. here's a real interesting timeline on Harry S. Truman
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/truman/timeline/index.html

He was vice president for just a short time before FDR died.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:03 PM
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49. State Senator & Asst. Sec. Of Navy v State Senator and U.S. Senator
I can agree that FDR is a great choice here.


http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/fdrbio.html


Roosevelt was reelected to the State Senate in 1912, and supported Woodrow Wilson's candidacy at the Democratic National Convention. As a reward for his support, Wilson appointed him Assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1913, a position he held until 1920.




So, is an Assistant Secratary of the Navy position far superiour to a U.S. Senate seat? In war time it could be argued that it may be, I can respect that opinoin. What was FDR's experience in regards to the Economy or other domestic issues?


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:06 PM
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53. FRD the economy .....The New Deal....
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 PM
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56. Exactly my point , thank you... what experience did he have before being elected that lead to this?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:14 PM
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60. 10 years as a NY state senator and 4 yrs NY Govenor
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:07 PM
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55. are you trying to compare Obama to FDR in experience?
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 PM
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57. yes, clearly
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:16 PM
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61. well sorry but, there isn't any...10 yrs state senate and 4 yrs NY Govenor
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:18 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:09 AM
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76. FDR had TWO years as a state senator.
He only served one term. 1911-1913.

You should check your facts.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:55 AM
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84. So Obama has spent more time in elected office then both Hillary and FDR, prior to POTUS.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 08:56 AM by izzybeans
If electoral experience is what really matters
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:18 PM
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62. FDR was governor of New York
which was a bigger deal then than it is now.

A lot of people used to think that the executive experience of a governor is superior to the experience of being a Senator.

But since W has messed up so much, I think people are more open minded now.

I think FDR was the greatest Dem president because he had to deal with the Great Depression and World War II. He wasn't perfect; after all, he signed the law that interned Japanese people simply because of their ancestry. But he did do a good job with the Depression and with World War II.

I wonder if it's possible for people born post-1941 to have any inkling of what life was like from 1929-1941 when many people did not have enough to eat.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:21 PM
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63. my mother, aunts and uncles also husband talk about what it was like
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:23 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:34 PM
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64. My daughter's father-in-law
looked around at all of the toys his grandchildren got one Christmas and said, "I was lucky if I got a beat-up old tin toy."

I was born in 1941 and times were easier for me and my younger siblings, because we got a couple of new toys each. And we got oranges and apples and nuts in our stockings. My grandchildren wouldn't understand why oranges and apples and nuts were treats!

But both my brother and I say our happiest memories of Christmas came when our parents let us put out the toys for the younger children on Christmas Eve night after the little ones had gone to bed. It truly is more blessed to give than receive. I'm happy my parents could buy those gifts. A lot of children were really poor when I grew up and got very little.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:01 AM
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70. OK, I agree, should have read down further..... NY Gov is a big deal
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 PM
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58. Franklin Delano Roosevelt...
...by far the best Dem president!

He was a NY State Senator for approx 2 years and Gov of NY for approx 4 years ~~ IIRC.

He was also Secretary of the Navy...but that is not an elected position.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:12 PM
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59. JFK, and he was in Congress for quite a few years before running.
But, that's only during my lifetime.

FDR was probably the best ever.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:37 PM
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65. FDR the Rethuglicans hate him the most .......that's why he is the BEST!
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:37 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:39 PM
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66. James Earl Carter
Served 2 terms in the Georgia Senate and was governor of Georgia from 1971 to 1975.

I was going for a Dem with the least amount of 'experience'. Given the chance, he might have been one of the Great Ones. The "proto" neocons with their darling actor, ronald reagan were not about to let Jimmy's dreams for America happen. We could have been sooooo green by now and sooooo off the oil addiction by now too.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:48 PM
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69. I love the man...He was the 1st Pres I ever voted for
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:12 AM
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72. I still love the man
I believe he may have been the first one I voted for as well. I am not sure though, I seem to recall voting against Nixon's second term while I was in the Army but I don't remember who that would have been...I recall liking Humphry a lot but I absolutely do not recall ever voting for him. Most likely Jimmy Carter was the first President I voted for too. For a lowly peanut farmer, he became a GREAT man and could have been an even GREATER President....damn I hate republicans :grr:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:19 AM
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89. yup I love him more today
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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:16 AM
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73. Bill Clinton nt
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:17 AM
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74. Didn't we already do a thread like this the other night?
Man I'm tired. I'm off to bed...
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metalluk Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:24 AM
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75. FDR in his last three terms
and he had far more experience, by then, than any other president in history.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:16 AM
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77. Barack Obama
I just got back from the future. He turned out to be a great president. :D


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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:49 AM
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81. FDR
Best US President in history. Period. He is so far out in front I'm not sure second place even counts in this contest.

mike kohr
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:23 AM
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87. It would be comparing a professional to amateurs. nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:52 AM
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82. FDR was in the State Senate and then first term as Gov of NY
when elected president. Much like Obama. Yes he was also asst Sec of Navy, so he had more experience than Hillary and Obama. Obama has had more elective experience than Hillary.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:58 AM
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85. Obama has been in an elected office more years than Clinton.
So of the two, Obama.
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