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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:09 PM
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Hillary's campaign wants to have a transparency battle?

More from Clinton Camp Saturday Conference Call

Clintons Mark Penn, Phil Singer hold Saturday afternoon conference call on the state of the race:

On Rezko: Penn called latest developments part of a troubling pattern coming from Obama camp, criticizing him for not meaning what he says and pointing to NAFTA, former adviser Powers Iraq statements in addition to learning about more Rezko fundraising. Said we tend to learn more in dribs and drabs rather than having him be transparent like he says he has been. Called for full disclosure of documents regarding his real estate transaction involving Rezko, questioned his judgment, accused him of waging a campaign full of personal attacks against Clinton. We have what we see as a troubling pattern here that is rippling through all elements of his campaign.

Singer said they have been seeing a pattern where words often seem to change. Said intrepid few reporters who have asked him about Rezko have gotten an answer that downplays his relationship with him. The revelation in todays newspapers is that Senator Obama has not always been so straightforward as he would like the public to think he has been in regards to Tony Rezko.

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Mark Penn should be fired! What the hell is he thinking?

Obama Camps Response to Clinton Calls for Rezko Documents

The Obama campaign today released the following statement in response to the Clinton campaigns request for Senator Obama to release documents already available on our campaign website:

Its the height of hypocrisy for Senator Clinton to demand the release of documents that are already on our campaign website while she steadfastly refuses to release her full tax returns and earmark requests from her time in the Senate, as well as her White House records and Clinton library donors. Democrats across the country should be very concerned about Senator Clintons refusal to offer a full and complete accounting of what could be lurking in this financial information and what that would mean for our party when we run against Senator McCain in November, said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor.

From the Chicago Tribune: The most remarkable facet of Obamas 92-minute discussion was that, at the outset, he pledged to answer every question the three dozen Tribune journalists crammed into the room would put to him. And he did. When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him. Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.


So what really happened Friday when Obama detailed his Obama connection? And will his attempt to exorcise Rezko keep U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign from exploiting that connection?

Obama fleshed out his relationship with Rezkoincluding the disclosure that Rezko raised as much as $250,000 for the first three offices Obama sought. But Obama's explanation was less a font of new data or an act of contrition than the addition of nuance and motive to a long-mysterious relationship.

We fully expect the Clinton campaign, given its current desperation, to do whatever it must in order to keep the Rezko tin can tied to Obama's bumper.

When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him.

Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.

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For those unfamiliar with Chicago media, the Tribunes editorial board is pretty solidly Republican, so if any paper was going to express skepticism about Obamas Rezko story, its the Trib. And yet, the paper came away apparently impressed.

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Obama prepares for full assault on Clinton

By John McCormick | Tribune correspondent
March 16, 2008

PLAINFIELD, Ind. Sen. Barack Obama is trying to air his dirty laundry even some items that might appear just a little wrinkled as he prepares a full assault on Sen. Hillary Clinton over ethics and transparency.

On Saturday, meanwhile, he invoked Robert F. Kennedy as he continued to try to distance himself from controversial statements made by his former Chicago pastor that are now widely circulating on the Internet.

With a gap between campaign contests, Obama is trying to unload controversies. On Friday, he held extended conversations with the Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times about his longtime relationship with indicted developer and fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko.

The Illinois Democrat is also expected to make public his tax returns for several years before 2006, documents he has previously provided to the Tribune and other news organizations.

Clinton, who appeared Saturday in two St. Patrick's Day parades in Pennsylvania, has said she will release her post-White House tax returns in mid-April, perhaps just ahead of the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

Her campaign, meanwhile, suggested many questions remain about Obama's relationship with Rezko.

"The revelations in today's newspapers make it clear that Sen. Obama has not always been as straightforward" as he has suggested, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

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What is Hillary hiding?

Bill Clinton Link in Ethanol Probe

Monday, Mar. 10, 2008 By AP/ALAN CLENDENNING

(SAO PAULO, Brazil) A team from Brazil's Labor Ministry found "degrading" living conditions for 133 sugarcane workers employed by an ethanol company whose investors include former President Clinton and other high-profile financial players.

At five sites inspected, workers "complained they were suffering from hunger and cold, and all of the locations were overcrowded and with terrible sanitary conditions," according to a statement issued Friday by Jaqueline Carrijo, who led the inspections last month.

The target of the probe, Brazil Renewable Energy Co., known as Brenco, apologized over the weekend and said it is fixing the problems at its rural operations, which turn sugarcane into ethanol.

Clinton's connection is via an investment in Brenco by The Yucaipa Cos., a U.S.-based fund in which Clinton was a senior advisor until last year. His investment in Brenco is valued between $15,001 and $50,000, according to a financial disclosure report submitted last year by his wife, presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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On Friday, infoUSA said its 2007 annual report will not be filed by a March 17 due date. The company said the report will be late because of an ongoing Securities and Exchange Commission investigation and a shareholder lawsuit.

The SEC is investigating entertainment expenditures and certain stock trades. And a lawsuit filed by Cardinal Value Equity Partners and hedge fund Dolphin LP alleges that infoUSA founder Vin Gupta used private corporate jets to fly Bill and Hillary Clinton on business, personal and campaign trips, questions why Gupta gave Bill Clinton a $3.3 million consulting contract and asks why the company paid for extravagant luxuries Gupta enjoyed.

News of the delayed filing led Moody's Investors Services and Standard & Poor's Ratings Services to consider a downgrade.

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Abramoff lobbying firm indicted is major Hillary donor

The Clinton Tax Returns: What's the Holdup?





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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:11 PM
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1. Hillary's transparency record is atrocious. She hasn't done anything for this since she ran in 2000
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:35 PM
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9. Hillary's playing on the wrong field.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:00 AM
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26. Had truth and open government been a priority for Clintons in the 90s there'd be no Bush2
and no 9-11 event and no Iraq war.

Closing the books on IranContra, BCCI, and CIA drugrunning matters throughout the 90s protected GHWBush and all his cronies around the world who profit greatly from the 'war on terror' and the corporate takeover of our government.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:13 PM
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2. Thank you.
Every time the "Clinton camp" starts up again, all I hear in my head is, "people in glass houses...."

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:20 PM
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3. Bill Clinton Link in Ethanol Probe - Obama camp is desparate and funny
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:22 PM
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4. Since the Hillary Invaded Iraq tactic hasn't worked, they're upping it to The Ethanol Probe.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 PM
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6. "The Iraq tactic"? Hillary is scrambling to define herself on Iraq (still). Big speech
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:44 PM
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11. Yes, tactic. Equating her vote with Bush's invasion has always been dishonest bullshit.
Meanwhile I'm waiting for the spin to end so I can decide whether Obama intends to end the war in 2009 or whether it depends . . . .
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 PM
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12. Are you going to deny that these are
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 PM by ProSense
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:09 PM
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13. Are you going to state flatly what Obama's plan is to end the war in Iraq?
(I appreciate your little blue links but I prefer an answer to the topic at hand.)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:13 PM
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14. What does Obama's plan to end the war have to do with Hillary's comments? n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:24 PM
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16. What does this question have to do with the original point -
that her vote was equated with Bush's invasion?

Meanwhile, what fucking plan?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:17 PM
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19. "Since the Hillary Invaded Iraq tactic hasn't worked" You brought it up! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:23 PM
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5. That's an AP article. What's funny about it? Is there anything funny about the others? n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:31 PM
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7. Didn't you hear? AP are shills for Obama
everyone knows the MSM is based. Everyone in freeperville knows it's biased towards the 'leebruls'.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:34 PM
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8. They Never Have Any Evidence To Refute These Kinds Of Allegations...
Just more snarky bullshit posts.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:36 PM
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10. Thanks! Another great and informative post. Keep them coming. nt
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:15 PM
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15. Thanks great stuff as always.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:06 AM
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22. Thanks!
Thanks for the comments and recs.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:25 PM
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17. Thanks for Posting!
:kick:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:34 PM
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18. That's an easy winner for Obama.
Hillary has been hiding all of her records and LYING about it.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:43 PM
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20. K & R
:thumbsup:
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:58 PM
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21. K & R
:kick:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:11 AM
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23. I was about to say.
If Hillary wants to talk transparency, let's talk about those tax returns, shall we?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:55 AM
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24. And earmarks! n/t
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:59 AM
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25. K&R!
What are the Clintons hiding? Why do they keep using the Darth Vader tactic of throwing objects willy nilly at opponents in order to hide their cowardliness?

:kick:
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:20 AM
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27. Transparency, that's a joke.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:21 AM by Unbowed
No records, no tax returns, but her opaque campaign is talking about Obama not being straightforward?

:rofl:

If they want to talk about who's hiding what, that is a conversation that will hurt Clinton, not Obama.

Anyone who advises her to pursue that tactic has to be a closet Obama supporter because they sure don't have Hillary Clinton's interest at heart.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:40 PM
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28. Trib: "the Clinton campaign, given its current desperation..."
ain't that the truth.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:31 AM
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29. Bring it on!
The Clintons are hiding their dirty laundry from Democratic voters because they know - -

it is harder to beat Obama than to beat McCain!

But if, God help us, Hillary is the nominee, the repugs will rake her over the coals if the Clintons hide their records.

And IMO, if those Clinton records come out, McCain will be the next President. God help us all.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:48 AM
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30. Kewl!
I wanna see "stuff".....losta of it!
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:51 AM
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31. Pot --- Meet Kettle........The Clinton Campaign does EVERYTHING wrong. -nt
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californiaguy Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:03 AM
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32. Hi.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:02 PM
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33. "Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics" by Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:46 PM
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34. Still no tax returns!

Papers show Clinton's days as 1st lady

By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 19

Clinton says her years as first lady would help equip her to handle foreign policy and national security as president.

But the schedules show trips packed with plainly traditional activities for a first lady as well as some substance.

For example, in her January 1994 visit to Russia with her husband, her schedule is focused on events with political wives. She sat in on a birthing class at a hospital, toured a cathedral and joined prominent women in a lunch of blinis with caviar and salmon.

The Clinton campaign said the schedules are merely a guide and don't reflect all of her activities.

The papers show her tackling health care reform out of the gate, with a meeting three days after her husband's inauguration and many more as the year went on, before her effort ultimately failed.

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Interesting!

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:16 AM
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35. Redacted!
***Redacted! So how scrubbed were those Hillary Clinton schedules? Scrubbed enough that the names of David "redacted" Kendall and Bob "redacted" Bennett apparently never appeared on them. As expected, the schedules didnt reveal that much. If anything, they only served as a tool to distract a lot of media to comb through them to find, well, nothing other than to attempt to recreate salacious days during some of the more dramatic moments of the Clinton years. The collective press corps now eagerly awaits those tax returns. When theyre released, will Yucaipa become a household name? Of course, the release of these schedules gives the appearance of transparency, even though there was a lot that was redacted. This could turn out to be a helpful talking point for the Clinton campaign as they fight this message meme that they aren't being transparent about their post-presidency income and the Clinton library donations.

(emphasis added)

The Early Word: Clinton Papers Reveal Little

By Ariel Alexovich

More than 11,000 pages documenting Hillary Rodham Clintons tenure as first lady were released yesterday, and they contain all the emotional punch of a factory-workers timecard, concludes John M. Broder of The New York Times.

After poring over the data, he notes that the documents many redactions make it difficult to judge the scope of Mrs. Clintons influence on policy, since many of the pages include vague listings such as private meeting.

<...>

What the schedules do show, however, writes The Wall Street Journal, is that Mrs. Clinton had some involvement in an issue that she now says she opposed: the North American Free Trade Agreement. As first lady, Mrs. Clinton presided over meetings where Nafta was discussed, the schedules show. Her husband signed the accord.

And The Washington Post notes other tantalizing tidbits:

She spent time with fundraiser Denise Rich at a New York ball in late 2000, just weeks before the president provoked wide criticism by pardoning Richs ex-husband, Marc, a commodities trader who had fled the country to avoid tax-evasion charges. She held four private meetings with her chief of staff, Maggie Williams, on the day in 1996 that an aide presented old law firm billing records subpoenaed two years earlier in the Whitewater investigation.

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