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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:42 PM
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When is Hillary going to cut Obama's lead? Obama's lead is currently the largest it has ever been
After the Iowa delegate changes, Obama's total delegate lead is now +132 from RCP.

Sorry Hillary, but if you are going to have any chance, you might want to start reducing Obama's lead at the very least.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:46 PM
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1. What Is It With Obama People And Having The Lead?
What's all this about having more delegates, more votes, and more states? So what? Big f'n deal. Since when should that determine anything? All this "majority rules" crap is really pissing me off.

:grr:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:47 PM
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3. LOL! Of course it is - since it isn't HRC in the lead! LOL!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:48 PM
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4. HAHA
:D

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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:51 PM
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7. Better to have more than fewer
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:19 PM
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16. Who cares if it is pissing you off? It is your fault if you can't handle the truth! nt
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:47 PM
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22. lol yeah what's with the obama people and all this winning bullshit....
... :P
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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36. You ARE kidding, right? You DID forget the sarcasm tag?
Or do you really not realize that the person with the most delegates wins and that's what the primaries are ALL about? Nah, no one could be that stupid.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:30 PM
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47. Yes, You Busted Me
It's sarcasm. But the real Clinton posts aren't that much different, are they?
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:46 PM
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2. Thus, go negative, right, because that's the "only way".....
...and that sucks.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:49 PM
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5. April 22.
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TAWS Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:51 PM
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6. So it'll take her 4 and a half months to finally reduce Obama's lead?
And some people seriously think she has a shot?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:57 PM
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10. Yes, TAWS, it will take her four and one half months.
And people say Obama has math on his side.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:25 PM
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32. She's just getting started
:sarcasm:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:13 PM
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12. Seems right
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:18 PM
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14. Shouldn't she have done so today?
Seems like about half of John Edwards' delegates decided that since he's out they were going to switch their support to Obama. Why didn't Hillary pick up any of their votes?

I guess maybe she's ready on day 113...and not before!!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:38 PM
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17. Ready to fold is more like it.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:32 PM
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33. 7 out of 14 - yep - that is half
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:53 PM
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39. Half that went to Obama...Update 10!
Looks like 8 Edwards' delegates + 1 from Clinton went for Obama today, for a net of 10.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:54 PM
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40. Yeah, but the other half are still with Edwards. Not Clinton.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:48 PM
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23. April 22 for what? For him to still have the most pledged delegates, the popular vote
, the most states won.... ?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:51 PM
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25. To cut the lead. Wasn't that the question? You sound like a robocall.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:04 PM
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44. I guess my question would be, what difference does it make?
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:48 PM
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24. You know there's only 188 delegates there.
And she'd have to pick up nearly all of them to overtake him.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:54 PM
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27. I do. Aprill 22 is not to overtake. That date is June 1.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 PM
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35. April 22 is Hillary's "light at the end of the tunnel"??
Uh-huh. :eyes:

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:55 PM
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41. No, it's her Tet.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:53 PM
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8. Look at it this way, all Hillary has to do is win every single one of PA's pledged delegates...
and they would be about even before he takes the lead again in IN, NC, and OR.

According to Chuck Todd, Obama is ahead by 155 PDs now.

Pledged Count: Obama leads 1,407-1,252
Superdelegates: Clinton leads 253-217
OVERALL TOTAL: Obama leads 1,624-1,505
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:56 PM
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9. She'll Take MORE Than 100% Of PA's Delegates
Bill's working it out right now, with a "businessman" from Tajikistan.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 PM
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19. Can't wait to bring Oregon home for Obama ... Finally!
:bounce:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:58 PM
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11. But she is planning the revotes in MI and FL
and for sure she will get those states.

So, won't she be ahead?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:16 PM
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13. Not so sure that she'll get those states, actually...
Obama would be very competitive in Michigan, and with campaigning can probably pull out a win in a revote. And Florida would probably go in the neighbourhood of 55/45 for Clinton, which won't give her enough delegates or votes to matter a damn. (Remember, she only got 55% vs 'uncommitted' in Michigan; there's no reason to expect she'll do better this time around.)
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:19 PM
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15. Don't you remember ? Obama's delegates don't count
Mark Penn revealed this in his latest conference call.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:39 PM
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18. It's called Pennsylvania. And Florida, although the DNC is struggling to keep it from being counted.
You want to know why? Because she'll win. And you can only win if you keep people out.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:43 PM
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20. She can't win enough delegates in PA and FL is out of the picture because of their OWN state party.
Dream on!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:51 PM
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26. If she got 65% of the vote in Pennsylvania
she would narrow Obama's lead by 48 delegates.

Not nearly enough to close that gap.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:21 PM
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29. And she'll never get that high here.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:46 PM
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21. A better question is if Obama is so strong, he could have closed the deal on March 4th.. He didn't!
So, it's April 22nd.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:20 PM
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28. And if she was inevitable, why couldn't she seal the deal on Super Tuesday?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:20 PM by Bullet1987
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:22 PM
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30. Exactly.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 PM
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37. Hillary's goal was simple. Show enough strength to break Obama's momentum..
Hillary easily accomplished her goal. Obama faltered when he should have surged.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:00 PM
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43. On Super Tuesday? Where he went on to win 11 in a row?
I thought she said it was going to be over on Super Tuesday.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:10 PM
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46. Didn't help him close the deal though, did it?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:22 PM
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31. He did close the deal
Senator Clinton seems to prefer humiliating herself for months over admitting that.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:43 PM
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34. No he didn't.. he failed to win the Nomination..
If the deal were closed, he would now be the nominee. He continues to struggle...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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38. You Tell 'Em, Cujo!
It's not about who has the most delegates, votes, and states. It's not about who is statistically uncatchable. It's about who throws the biggest fucking kitchen sink!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:09 PM
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45. I guess the Goldstein household is celebraling solo..


Now don't anyone spoil this for poor Manny!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:56 PM
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42. Bwahahahaha!
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