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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:20 PM
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"The Republican Party and their Hillary"
One cannot help wondering if the GOP (McCain et al) and Hillary Clinton's campaign are working in unison most of the steps of the way - the same things come out of the Clinton and McCain camps? This is worrying for Democrats.

I would have to have someone from their campaign to prove to the voters that they are not working together to defeat Obama?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:22 PM
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1. or you could just prove that they are. oh well nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:22 PM
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2. Sounds like more desperation coming from Hillary's opponent's camp
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:23 PM
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3. Gramps & Billary ... what's the difference?
Ok, Billary won't try to overturn Roe v. Wade. But Chimpy never could, so what does that really matter???

Bottom line, both are money-grubbing, war-loving, corporate fucktards. Either one would be disastrous for this nation, and for the world (especially folks in whichever foreign country we're going to destroy next with our military-industrial war machine).

:rant:
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USAcitizen Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 PM
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4. It Really Looks that Way But
I think that Hillary's "Kitchen Sink" stategy is very simular to the tactics used by the republicans. Actually McCain is the one gaining from all of this
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:26 PM
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9. No, McCain can't fight as dirty as the Clinton Bros.
he'd fight dirty, no doubt, especially his surrogates. But NOBODY in politics fights as dirty as the Clinton Bros.

She's more Republican than Gramps anyway... just ask Ann Coulter.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:51 PM
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16. yes!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 PM
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5. Not worrying me.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 PM
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6. So, Hillary made Obama attend that church. Bad Hillary, Bad!
Obama is never responsible for anything.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:26 PM
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10. No, Hillary's supporters are pretending that "story" means Jack Diddly Shit.
Obama's responsible for his OWN actions, his OWN words... get it?

Imagine that, being responsible for one's OWN actions. Like voting for the Iraq War.

Oh, and where are Hillary's Tax Returns, again?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 PM
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7. I don't trust anyone from their campaign who is in a position to know.
Their campaigns are both managed by Mark Penn's firm. For this reason alone, I do not consider Hillary to be anything but a spoiler. Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Kuicinich, and Gravel were at least Democratic Party candidates and conducted themselves as such.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:53 PM
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17. I do miss Edwards and the rest
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:25 PM
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8. McCain's advisor and Clinton's advisor own the same lobbying firm
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:28 PM
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11. BiNgO!
Same advisors, same methodology in campaigning.

Same target......Obama.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:54 PM
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18. isn't that strange
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:29 PM
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12. Did you get your name
because you are a baby at politics?

Hillary is a liberal Democrat. Obama is a liberal Democrat. McCain is a conservative Republican.

Hillary would rather have Obama as President than McCain.

Obama would rather have Hillary as President than McCain.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:35 PM
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14. Hillary voted to murder innocent Iraqi children ...
and green-lit Chimpy's "final solution" for the children of Iran as well.

Sorry, I'm not buying the "Hillary's a liberal Democrat" line. She certainly was at one time (long ago). Now she's aligned herself with the very people we're trying to remove from power. I don't care what she SAYS. I care about what she does and how she votes, and defined by those terms, she's simply a DINO.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:55 PM
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19. 'Yes She Did'
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:26 PM
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22. I can understand why Dems aren't doing better against
McCain when I read absurd posts like this one.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:06 AM
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23. Not correct. If Hillary can't be the nominee in 2008, then her goal would be to have...
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 02:16 AM by AdHocSolver
McCain win in 2008 so that she could run again in 2012. If Obama is the Democratic candidate, he is most likely to win in 2008, and would run again in 2012 and serve eight years as president. Therefore, if Obama wins, she doesn't get another chance to be the Democratic candidate until 2016. Her political career at that time would be winding down.

Hillary is no liberal Democrat. There is considerable truth to the assertion that Bill Clinton was the best Republican president this country ever had. Bill gave us NAFTA, media deregulation, so-called welfare reform (a Republican designed program), and repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act which paved the way for the sub-prime mortgage fiasco and economic meltdown.

These policies will have to be reversed to undo the damage done to the economy. The corporate elite are not going to go along willingly with such changes. The Clintons have been the beneficiaries of corporate largesse, and there is little reason to believe that they will do what is required to solve the problems.

P.S. Another scenario if Obama is our candidate and wins in 2008 (a very likely event): Hillary switches parties and runs as a Republican in 2012.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:35 PM
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13. Oh, good grief.
:banghead:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:40 PM
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15. "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc."
an active GD discussion about a RW founded and funded political machine inside the Democratic Party that has been around for decades

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:57 PM
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20. Thanks for the post
I don't think that many people are aware of it
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:14 PM
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21. I'm putting it in threads that it is relevant to, I actually read those threads before I post it n/t
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