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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:41 PM
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Breaking: Democrats Drop Donkey . New logo will be......
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:45 PM
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1. now that is funny
if only it were not true....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:46 PM
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2. Well, the gun will excite the GOP base- maybe we'll get crossover votes!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:48 PM
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6. The real reason they picked this one was....
A circular firing squad was to large to replicate.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:47 PM
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3. That is clearly a white male holding that gun.
So, are you one of those racist, sexist democrats? Well, are you?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:50 PM
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7. Well....
He is a Gay shooter so are you Homophobic?
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:53 PM
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9. Ohhhhh!!! My gaydar must be off.
:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:47 PM
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4. That's the dlc's logo, sellitman..
We are keeping the :kick:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:59 PM
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12. Maybe I'm just jaded
...but I have felt for a while that was the intention of the dlc is to destroy the Democratic Party. So for my line of thought, the dlc logo would be shooting the DNC in the back. I guess the dlc doesn't understand the stubbornness of a true donkey, they might end up getting :kick: in the face.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:07 PM
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14. We've got miles more
jade to go.. you're not alone in your assessment of the dlc, me b zola. We'd be dense if we didn't know this.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:10 PM
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15. The co-founder of the DLC is a member of PNAC: Will Marshall
The co-founder of the DLC is a member of PNAC: Will Marshall

Information on Will Marshall:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295

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With Al From, in 1985 Marshall cofounded the DLC, an important bastion of center-right Democrats that was once chaired by Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT). In 1989, Marshall founded the PPI, a think tank that is affiliated with the DLC. Both organizations are sometimes described as neoconservative for their foreign policy positions. In an analysis of the two groups' stance on the Israeli offensive against Hezbollah in summer 2006, Tom Barry wrote: "In practice, though, DLC/PPI positions differ little from that of the Bush administration. As Israel rained bombs down on Lebanon, the DLC's New Dem Dispatch echoed the neoconservative camp in its plea for the Bush administration to avoid the supposed shame of appeasement in the Middle East. Adopting the same line taken by the Bush administration and the Israeli government, the newsletter recommended that the war be taken to Tehran and Damascus, which 'have become clear threats to regional and world peace, and must be isolated and sanctioned, not appeased.'"

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Marshall was one of 15 analysts who co-wrote the PPI's October 2003 foreign policy blueprint, "Progressive Internationalism: A Democratic National Security Strategy." Using language that closely mirrors that of the neoconservative-led Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the PPI hailed the "tough-minded internationalism" of past Democratic presidents such as Harry Truman. Like PNAC, which in its founding statement warned of grave present dangers confronting America, the PPI strategy declared that, "Today America is threatened once again" and is in need of assertive individuals committed to strong leadership. The authors' observation that, "like the Cold War, the struggle we face today is likely to last not years but decades," echoes both neoconservative and Bush administration national security assessments. As the "Progressive Internationalism" authors explain, the PPI endorsed the invasion of Iraq "because the previous policy of containment was failing, because Saddam posed a grave danger to America as well as to his own brutalized people, and because his blatant defiance of more than a decade's worth of UN Security Council resolutions was undermining both collective security and international law."

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Although Marshall calls himself a "centrist," he has associated himself with neoconservative organizations and their radical foreign policy agendas. At the onset of the Iraq invasion, Marshall signed statements issued by the Project for the New American Century calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein, advocating that NATO help "secure and destroy all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," and arguing that the invasion "can contribute decisively to the democratization of the Middle East."

Marshall's credentials as a liberal hawk have been well established by his affinity for other PNAC-associated groups, including the U.S. Committee on NATO and the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Marshall served on the board of directors of the U.S. Committee on NATO alongside such leading neoconservative figures as Robert Kagan, Richard Perle, Randy Scheunemann, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Peter Rodman, Jeffrey Gedmin, Gary Schmitt, and the committee's founder and president Bruce Jackson. At the request of the Bush administration, Jackson also formed the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which, with former DLC chairman Joseph Lieberman serving as co-chair with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), aimed to build bipartisan support for the liberation, occupation, and democratization of Iraq. Marshall, together with former Democratic Sen. Robert Kerrey of Nebraska (who coauthored "Progressive Internationalism"), represented the liberal hawk wing of the Democratic Party on the committee's neocon-dominated advisory board. Other advisers included James Woolsey, Eliot Cohen, Newt Gingrich, William Kristol, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Joshua Muravchik, Chris Williams, and Richard Perle.

On February 25, 2003, Marshall joined an array of neoconservatives marshaled by the Social Democrats/USA (SD/USA)a wellspring of neoconservative strategyto sign a letter to Bush calling for the invasion of Iraq. Marshall and others asked the president to "act alone if that proves necessary" and then, as a follow-up to a military-induced regime change in Iraq, to implement a democratization plan. The SD/USA letter urged the president to commit his administration to "maintaining substantial U.S. military forces in Iraq for as long as may be required to ensure a stable, representative regime is in place and functioning." Others signing the SD/USA letter included Jackson, Kagan, Woolsey, Hillel Fradkin, Rachelle Horowitz, Penn Kemble, Nina Shea, Michael Novak, Clifford May, and Ben Wattenberg.

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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1295


Information on the DLC:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:21 PM
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17. Swampy, dear, THAT deserves its own thread!
Needs to be seen by everyone.

If you post it as an OP, let me know and I will keep it kicked!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:35 PM
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18. Hmm
What do you think about Hillary Clinton's involvement with the DLC?

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:43 PM
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19. Not too much, actually. Ditto her involvment with McAuliffe, Penn, Morris...
She needs better friends. Her current circle is one of her biggest problems.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:08 PM
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22. Well
I have been kind so far by stating some akin to "she needs better friends," but she is involved on a much deeper, more sinister level than her fans realise. Even you might not like what I really want to post... nor will anyone who supports her. :yoiks:




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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:06 PM
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24. LOL You have no idea the depth of my, ahem, disregard for her candidacy
Anytime you need to vent and really speak your mind, PM me. You will find a friendly ear. I am not of the mind that blind ambition should be the defining characteristic of a presidential candidate. ;)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:08 PM
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27. I will PM you now
:D
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:48 PM
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5. I like this one:


"I propose that this symbol says that the snake, like us, had to learn of this primordial unity of apparent opposites the hard way. It, like us, has to pass from innocence to reflection to consciousness and do this through the process of experiencing its limitations - which realization opens up new possibilities for altered action or new visions concerning its relationship to itself and the universe."

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.westg...
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:52 PM
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8. When I first saw the pic...
...I thought it looked like a side-view of a cooked goose, which might be the most appropriate symbol yet.
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Thurston Howell III Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:55 PM
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10. K&R.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:58 PM
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11. Here's one with special intstructions!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:02 PM
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13. ....
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LuvMyPorsche Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:15 PM
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16. lol...
n/t
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:46 PM
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20. LOL!

Sending that one to friends......
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:52 PM
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21. How About the Hairy-Fanged-Urobouros For the New Democrat Logo? See Post For Demo:
Behold The Dreaded Hairy-Fanged-Urobouros: http://video.yahoo.com/watch/195248

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:37 PM
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23. This is a bit simpler, yet in the same vein

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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:07 PM
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25. bahahahaha!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:07 PM
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26. Here's my suggestion:
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