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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:02 PM
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The only thing that will save Obama now is who he picks for VP.
I'm not talking about Hillary. Who could bring this together with him and help this clusterfuck that Obama has created?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM
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1. What is this clusterfuck you claim Obama created? nt
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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I wasn't just the minister....the E N T I R E congregation was into all that racist rhetoric being
spewed in a C h u r c h. The entire lot of them were cheering, dancing, changing and agreeing. You can be sure it wasn't the first time either. What did bho and michelle listen to for t w e n t y years without stopping it?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:13 PM
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17. Racist Rhetoric? Is That A New Euphemism For Truth?
Why do you hate the truth?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:16 PM
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21. In a c h u r c h? You don't say. How awful! All those people should
have sat straight up with hands folded in their laps; is that how it's done in your church? Is that what you are actually griping about? Or is it the message that Wright tries to convey?
Read this; just because things might be done differently in Obama's church than yours doesn't make them wrong. If you don't know that, no one can help you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Here's another one to read to further your edumacation:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM
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27. I know
All those awful Negroes. The entire lot of them. Cheering, dancing, changing and agreeing. :eyes:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:32 PM
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39. They had to have agreed with him or they
would have walked out on the first racist tirade. This preacher-gate has blown the whole cover off of the Obama campaign. It shows the country how Obama REALLY feels. He would be a disaster for our country.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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15. The bomb-throwing, terrorist Jeremiah Wright?
The ex-Marine African-American who DARES to speak the truth about The USA's missteps? OMG! What a "clusterfuck!"

The OP is... um, unbalanced? ;)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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2. Hagee... balanced ticket
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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3. You're right that Hillary is not a possibility.
But Obama will defeat McCain regardless of the VP.
However, a stellar VP will help usher in a new working Majority.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 PM
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6. Maybe he can be his own VP. Delusion reigns supreme as usual.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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4. *shrug* nobody can help
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 PM by quinnox
I said Wes Clark when this was brought up in the past but that was before Clark hammered him and said he isn't ready to be president.

I forgot about how much character and honor that Clark has, he says it like it is and is a blunt guy.

Obama's VP won't be enough to fill all the holes in his resume.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:09 PM
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11. Oh yes, he will.
I think I know who Obama will pick, and it will be an excellent choice.

Clark has not always been an honorable guy - according to High Shelton who knew him well.
Clark owes two stars to Clinton.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:23 PM
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28. Clark lost all his honor when he started supporting the warmonger hillary. n/t
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:51 PM
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41. That's how I feel about it.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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5. Puhleeeeze...
:eyes:
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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7. I think Obama should make a souless munster his VP
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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8. this clusterfuck that Obama has created
This "clusterfuck" is a Republican slime effort.

The fact that so many Democrats are stupid enough to fall for it tells me that parts of our own party are no better than the Republicans they claim to hate.

Its too early for Obama to announce a VP, as it would be seen as a slight to those Democrats (see above) who support Clinton.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:08 PM
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9. Yes, those guys, they started a church twenty years ago, now is the payoff!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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13. See, you're an example of the type of Democrat I was talking about
Perfect timing!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:16 PM
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20. I's sorry, I don't religiously follow your posts, so tell me what kind am I?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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32. so tell me what kind am I?
The kind of Democrat who salivates at the notion of destroying another Democrat to further your own candidate.

One who believes that hiding behind sarcasm covers your real goals.

Thats the condensed version.

The full version would compare and contrast your political beliefs to the Republicans, and would examine how little difference there is between you and them in an era of Karl Rove.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:27 PM
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36. Uh, I officially changed my vote from Hillary to Obama. You know
the inevetability of it all.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:09 PM
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10. Whoa! Clusterfuck is right. Not sure if even a VP pick could save him at this
point in time. I think he needs to save himself first.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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14. Obama will save himself.
Don't know who is going to save Clinton - because there is far worse on them.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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12. I'd be happy with Wes Clark OR John Edwards
I'm fairly certain either man would jump at the chance to run on the ticket with O, even though one ran against him, and the other blasted him as part of the Hillary campaign. Either man would be a stellar partner for a race.

On the other hand, where's Oprah? Imagine an Obama/Oprah ticket!
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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30. oh please!! neither one of those!
One's a shillbot and the other is a phony hedge fund manager.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:13 PM
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16. I don't think Obama has created a clusterfuck, but think Barbara Boxer would be an excellent VP

"Clusterfucks" aside, it seems to me that Obama, already at this point, has organized one of the most remarkable presidential campaigns of modern political history. As a first term Senator with no discernible political base outside of Illinois, he managed to take on the political apparatus of a former president among others. I myself thought that Tsunami Tuesday would either sink him or nearly sink him -- and complained about its front-loading accordingly, prior to Feb 5. However, Obama did SPECTACULARLY then under the circumstances, and went on to sweep states across the country before the Clinton campaign managed to win some key victories in Ohio and (popular vote) Texas. He looks good in almost all the remaining nomination contests other than PA.

So what is the 'clusterfuck' that Obama has created? HRC is throwing the kitchen sink at him and he has responded so far pretty well. Many DUers seem to be so harsh on him as to be self-parodying (for example the plethora of McClurkin threads lambasting him for weeks and weeks and even months afterwords, garnering huge numbers of recs etc.).
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:14 PM
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18. She'd Be Excellent
I'd be proud to vote for a woman like Boxer.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:52 PM
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42. DINGDIMGDING!!!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:15 PM
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19. What about Sam Nunn? That would clean things up a bit. If he could be persuaded.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:18 PM
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22. Obama has created WHAT clusterfuck, please enlighten me
:eyes:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:20 PM
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23. Ya know....
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:25 PM
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34. No, I don't know, stop wasting my time, meet my ignore list
:hi:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:28 PM
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37. Don't you mean iggied? It's cuter. At least I think so.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:20 PM
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24. While I don't agree with the needing to be saved part
Gov Sebelius is the best choice for VP.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:21 PM
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25. I think that's a bit dramatic, considering we're still in this news cycle...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM by ALiberalSailor
...if in 2 weeks this issue is still being pushed, I might become concerned at that point. However, I do think he should help this "out" and start name dropping for VP and other cabinet positions.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM
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26. i seriously don't think Obama needs saving
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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31. It just so sad. Really. Oh God help us.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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29. Clusterfuck Obama created?
:rofl:
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:12 PM
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44. That was My reaction. n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:25 PM
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33. Obama hasn't created anything. The media has.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:26 PM
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35. you mean Hillary Clusterfuck Clinton? n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:30 PM
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38. Wow, Hillary is a lousy candidate, she can't even win with a "clusterfuck" handed to her.
Hilariously desperate!

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:50 PM
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40. he hasn't gotten the nomination yet
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:04 PM
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43. "clusterfuck that Obama has created"..are you freakin kidding me?
You just earned my ignore of you.

Sorry, bye bye.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:14 PM
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45. So just who exactly should he pick then? Who has the power to save him?
I honestly can't believe everyone's making such a big deal about this. I happen to think it's good to get everything out there, deal with it and move on. It will ultimately make Obama a much better candidate.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:26 PM
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46. After watching Tiger Woods come from behind today and be a real
contender...I mean, they have so much in common, they're both focused, very appealing, smart..and well, just plain cute. (sarcastic), just golfed out..
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