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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:40 PM
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Falwell and Robertson on 9-11
Just a little perspective I thought I'd share in this cesspool on Ministers Gone Wild.

Partial transcript of comments from the
September 13, 2001 telecast of the 700 Club

JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system..

JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang "God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged". In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God. ~~~

PAT ROBERTSON: > Amen

http://www.actupny.org/YELL/falwell.html

So I would like to know when McCain is going to publicly denounce Robertson for his loathsome support of the late Jerry Falwell.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:44 PM
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1. I expect Republicans to be in bed with crazy preachers.
I used to think Democrats were more enlightened.

Oh, well. We all make mistakes.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:45 PM
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2. Religion is irrational and we are shocked when the
religious professionals are also irrational? I'm not.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:11 PM
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5. And who knew Hillary has been a member of the Fellowship for
15 years. Shocked me.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:17 PM
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6. Me, too. I'm not very happy with either of the front runners.
I never thought Democrats were into the crazy religion business the way Republicans are.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:33 PM
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7. It would be nice if all this religion talk led to a discussion on the
importance of the separation of Church and State, but I'm not holding my breath.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:46 PM
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3. Yep.
I'd be willing to bet a lot of fundamentalist preachers said just that in their churches on the Sunday after 9/11.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:46 PM
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4. Hagee on New Orleans:

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:34 PM
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8. Pure ugliness through and through, those fundagelical "leaders"
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:40 PM
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9. 9-11 is misrepresented: it didn't change people's minds, it reinforced their bigotries
Falwell saw those towers coming down and it was proof that god was punishing us for tolerating abortionists and gays. I saw them coming down and it was just another example of scary violence that wasn't done by agnostics.

Neither of us changed our little prejudices, it just served as the greatest all-purpose excuse for the last half-century: "9-11 made me do it". It justified xenophobes, narcissists, and the generally unstable to basically do as they please or not do much at all. It was a veritable boon for selfishness of every sort. People have made so much hay, sucked so much pity and pardoned themselves for so many sundry offenses that it must lurk in the minds of many just what a handy disaster it was.
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