Enough's enough. COME HOME H2O Man!!!!

[Cooley Hurd]

Chased away by the Clinton trolls, WE really MISS him!!!

Kick and recommend if you agree!!!

[bicentennial_baby]

1. I'd like to have him back as well

[K Gardner]

2. K&R

[HughMoran]

3. Who said he was chased away by Clinton trolls?

I figured he was shocked at the lack on substance of Obama supporters. There is a reason y'all are begging for his return.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. No, the trolls called HIM a RACIST...

H2O Man a racist??? Clearly they don't know H2O Man...

[HughMoran]

14. I never saw that

Got a link? I find that kind of shocking - it's the kind of behavior I'd more expect from the Obama newbies.

[ruggerson]

He got hammered because he compared Hillary to a lynch mob

it was a dumb analogy and he deserved his rebuke. There was no chasing and no calling him a racist. He was the one who used the racially inflammatory references.

[HughMoran]

26. I was a little concerned about his new found religion

...and I told him so, but never disrespectfully.

I have never attacked either candidate and I never will.

[TahitiNut]

73. "There was no chasing and no calling him a racist."

That's just simply a falsehood.

[EFerrari]

76. I can't read the original and that's probably a good thing. n/t

[yardwork]

81. You posted all over the thread in question at the time.

Here it is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[ruggerson]

96. People were rightly upset

that HE was using a racial metaphor.

It was appalling.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. Here's a link to the blogspot entry in question:

http://h2oman.blogspot.com/2008/02/strange-fruit-campai...

The Clintonistas on DU had the thread pulled.

[Swamp Rat]

22. I did

Threads were deleted because they were so offensive.

[citizen snips]

62. link?

[VolcanoJen]

4. I miss him to pieces!!!

What happened?

[Cha]

9. I've noticed H20man hasn't been

around, too.. I don't think he would let anyone keep him away though.

I use Ignore..this place is great.

[Cooley Hurd]

11. So do I - the Clinton operatives shredded him because of a very thoughtful post...

http://h2oman.blogspot.com/2008/02/strange-fruit-campai...

[paulk]

25. yeah, comparing the Clinton campaign to a lynching

that was thoughtful...

Sorry, he deserved being shredded for that.

[Cooley Hurd]

40. Perhaps the Clinton campaign should step off the racism, eh?

[yardwork]

56. Perhaps they should - but lynching is a lot worse than racist comments.

The comparison was over the top and an insult to the memories of people tortured and murdered.

[Cooley Hurd]

86. It wasn't, considering the desperate campaign Senator Clinton has waged...

[ruggerson]

91. You think mobs of white people murdering innocent blacks

is comparable to Hillary Clinton's campaign for the nomination?

That is majorly fucked up.

[Cooley Hurd]

98. It's time for you to cast the shadows of politics from your eyes...

...and realize that this race is NOT about gender, nor race. Perhaps your candidate can do the same?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

44. Thoughtful? More like inflammatory...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Cooley Hurd]

49. The Clinton campaign was the FIRST to inject RACE into this...

I'm sorry, but H2O Man's post was a response to the injection of race...

[ruggerson]

51. Actually Michelle Obama was the first

[EFerrari]

50. Only for the metaphorically challenged.

[Cooley Hurd]

I hate to say that the losing party in this seems to most metaphorically challenged...

[EFerrari]

59. I think DU is the loser.

[Cooley Hurd]

70. No doubt...

[UALRBSofL]

45. Well, I just read his blog

But I can say it seemed pretty offensive to me.

[EFerrari]

63. What part was offensive? The fact of lynchings or

the parallel to what the Clinton campaign has tried to pull?

Both are offensive to me, deeply offensive.

[yardwork]

55. His post compared Hillary Clinton's campaign to the lynching of black people.

It was over the top, and H2OMan got called on it. He was asked to clarify his meaning in the thread, and he did - he defended it.

[Cooley Hurd]

87. Then tell your candidate AND her surrogates to STOP RACE-BATING!

[yardwork]

92. I'm an Obama supporter.

[Cooley Hurd]

99. Then you should know better!

[Emit]

5. Where has he been?

I miss him dearly.

[fascisthunter]

6. Was He, seriously?

seems they like chasing away all the best this party represents.

[Stephanie]

8. Where did he go? Come back, H2O! We love you!

Your friends miss you. You going to leave us over some stupid freeper trolls hiding here under the HRC flag?

[blm]

10. I didn't know this happened. Hard to believe anyone would viciously go after H2O

Targeted by a group, perhaps?

[Name removed]

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[HughMoran]

17. Clintonistas huh?

You're clearly being an ass hole for no good reaason.

[Cooley Hurd]

21. Iggy? You're a tool...

I take PRIDE in being on YOUR "iggy" list, you HUGHMORAN!

[Name removed]

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[Cooley Hurd]

33. "You're clearly an ass hole - onto the iggy pile for you lying moran"

And you expect a respectful post in return?

Dink!

[HughMoran]

37. So you didn't post the MOTHER FUCKING ASS HOLE TERM "CLINTONISTAS" FIRST

Are you trying to be an ass hole or are all Obama supporters like you?

[Cooley Hurd]

38. Hard core Clinton supporters have been labeled "Clintonistas" LONG before...

...I did. Perhaps you should allow yourself to THINK CRITICALLY before you allow yourself to BLINDLY support a DINO like Senator Clinton...

BTW - I thought I was on your "IGGY" list? Why do you keep responding?

[Name removed]

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[Cooley Hurd]

42. Perhaps you know YOU have no excuse because the Clinton campaign has run...

...and UGLY fucking campaign, and that there's no excuse for it?

BTW - when do I show up on your ignore list? You're boring me...

[HughMoran]

43. Well, Clinton has run a poor campaign

So what? That doesn't mean you have to be the typical insulting mindless Obama troll does it?

No iggy here - I changed my post if you hadn't noticed.

[Cooley Hurd]

47. Cool - I'd prefer people debate as opposed to plugging their ears to said debate...

[HughMoran]

41. Oh, and I don't support Clinton - your black/white thinkers are incapable of comprehending subtlety

Some of us are not zombie lemmings incapable of supporting BOTH of our fine candidates.

[Cooley Hurd]

46. Suuure you don't...

...that's why you've taken such UMBRAGE against what I've said.

Penn's check in the mail?

[HughMoran]

48. You posted a Freeper-like "Clintonistas" term. Who's the ass hole?

I think I know. I resent it when supporters of one candidate can't stop being childish ass holes. Ring a bell?

[Cooley Hurd]

57. It's a term of endearment for the freepers...

...one of their own?

You do know that I'm messing with you at this point? I generally DON'T use THAT term for Senator Clinton's supporters - only for the troublemakers, like the ones who made a stink about Rev Wright's comments (even though such diatribes would receive a hundred recs in ANY other context here on DU).

[HughMoran]

80. It takes a lot of posts to get down to brass tacks huh?

I'm just tired of the automatic assumption that it's OK to call Clinton and her supporters any of a whole dictionary of insulting terms, so I've taken to responding in kind so that Obama supporters can see how "troll like" they are behaving. Yes, it ususally ends up as a joke - which is actually good since I would otherwise end up with a bad taste in my mouth. I assume you realize that the Wright episode hit right on the heels of the Ferraro episode in which Obama supporters were "making a stink". Can't we ever see what's really happening here?

[Cooley Hurd]

93. Her campaign has been an embarrassment to Democrats everywhere...

Let's get back to one's merits, NOT one's skin color, NOR one's genitalia.

[HughMoran]

101. Agreed.

Obama's supporters have been an embarassment to Democrats everywhere. Let's actually talk about issues rather than insulting your opponent 24/7 and then saying "Clinton made me do it". No, inability to control one's blind, mindless ferver made you do it.

[blm]

23. Informative truthtellers like H2O do get targeted by the protectors of closed government.

Unfortunately some do wear donkey masks and some get paychecks.

[Cooley Hurd]

35. Bingo! As always, blm, you hit that friggin nail on its friggin head!!!

[EFerrari]

67. Thank you. n/t

[yardwork]

58. No. I'm an Obama supporter who was offended by the thread in question.

There was no group target. There was a strong response on the part of just about everybody - Hillary and Obama supporters alike - to a highly offensive post.

[blm]

69. Hard to imagine anything H2O posting that would do that - he's a notoriously cool head

and calm even in the midst of stormy debate.

If it was truly offensive, it had to have been a serious reaction gone astray, because H2O has a stellar reputation for being a calm, serious informer.

[yardwork]

72. I was very surprised myself. Take a look at the post in question.

I was astounded, to be honest. And then several of us asked him in the thread to explain, and he didn't back away.

My personal opinion is that the constant barrage of nasty attacks got to him, he overreacted, and wisely decided to take a break from DU. I'm sure he'll be back and back to his old self eventually.

We all make mistakes. I don't hold it against him.

[yardwork]

78. Here's a link to the post in question - this was before Ferraro and Wright.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[me b zola]

12. K&R!

H2O Man was right.

[madfloridian]

13. We still have so many great folks missing from the 2004 wars here.

I miss them as well.

Yes, people are often targeted here. It's a shame.

[corkhead]

15. I don't blame him for taking a break.I hope he is back soon.This protracted infighting is killing us

[Coexist]

18. please!

[ClayZ]

20. Waterman Spouts

(I keep it handy)

http://h2oman.blogspot.com/

[f the letter]

24. come on back n/t

[DearAbby]

27. I was just thinking about him

How I miss his reasoned calm perspective on issues...Come home H2O, we miss you.

[Hepburn]

28. H2O...where are you!?!?!?

You are missed. Please don't let the nasty ones run you off. I miss you and your wonderful, thoughtful posts very much.

Come back soon, OK?

[Hepburn]

29. H2O...where are you!?!?!?

You are missed. Please don't let the nasty ones run you off. I miss you and your wonderful, thoughtful posts very much.

Come back soon, OK?

[Rhiannon12866]

30. K&R.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

32. He had a disgusting thread locked and it appears his...

over-inflated ego couldn't take it. Clinton trolls, bullshit!! His OP was over the line.

DU also lost MarrahG as a result ...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Name removed]

52. Deleted message

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[yardwork]

60. How dare you say that about another DUer? What's your problem?

[Cooley Hurd]

65. ...um, because she was?

BTW - she's a FORMER DUer because she refused to follow the rules??

[yardwork]

74. She was not banned. You are offensive.

[hfojvt]

77. SaveOurDemocracy made it sound like she was banned

maybe not intentionally but "we lost MarrahG" sounded like a banning to me too (but I checked her profile and saw that she was not).

[yardwork]

79. Nobody was banned. Don't believe everything said in this thread.

There are quite a view false statements being made in this thread. I recommend reading the thread in question and reaching your own conclusions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[SaveOurDemocracy]

88. LOL ... I NEVER inferred that. She left in disgust. n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

90. Back it up, jerk ! You want to call another member RACIST...

you better be able to prove that shit!

[EFerrari]

54. How was it over the line?

Be very careful because H20 Man is a friend I treasure.

He pointed out Obama was being lynched in the media at the instigation of the Clinton campaign.

So now, please tell me, how is stating the obvious "over the line"?

[yardwork]

68. That's not what he said. He compared the Clinton campaign to the lynching of black people.

That was offensive - especially to the memory of the people tortured and murdered by lynchings.

[EFerrari]

83. And that is exactly what I said:

"He pointed out Obama was being lynched in the media at the instigation of the Clinton campaign."

And knowing H2O Man, he did not do that lightly.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

84. I disagreed with you then, and I disagree with you now ...

"Be very careful..." should I feel intimidated?


I have neither the time, nor the inclination, to renew this flamefest. The only reason I even linked it was because of the bogus claim that he was chased off by 'Clinton Trolls'. It's seems more likely that he left because he was annoyed that his thread was locked.


People can read the thread for themselves, and make their own determinations.

[EFerrari]

89. Intimidated? I don't see why.

People can read the thread for themselves. Definitely.

Eta: H2O Man was pilloried for using a figure. And anyone who has read him or followed his work should bloody well know BY NOW that he would never use that particular figure lightly.

That's it.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

94. Good, because I wasn't ... and though maybe...

I was missing something.

[EFerrari]

97. I miss him and I miss what he contributed so thoughtfully to DU.

Maybe we'll manage to resolve this.

[UALRBSofL]

64. Thanks for finding that post

It puts things into perspective much more so then the OP's blog. And after reading the reactions of people it was obvious to see the reason for the thread being locked.

[EFerrari]

71. Yes. The thread was locked because Clinton supporters

mounted a hissy fit which is probably more natural to them than thinking about his thread.

[yardwork]

75. I notice that you conveniently ignore all the Obama supporters - like me - who also complained.

It's simply untrue to characterize what happened as a mob of Hillary supporters mounting a "hissy fit." As I recall you were one of the only posters on DU - out of tens of thousands of us - who defended the thread. And that's because it was indefensible.

[EFerrari]

85. So, am I to adjust my conscience by the numbers?

Is that what you are suggesting?

That thread was perfectly clear to people who could read it.

And now, back you go.

[yardwork]

100. LOL! You've got most of the Obama supporters here on ignore!

I'm cracking up with laughter. No wonder you think the site is overrun with trolls - you've got everybody else on ignore!

I'm an Obama supporter and you've got me on ignore because....lol!!!

[bigbrother05]

34. The Upright Citizens Brigade as I call them

locust attack, and destroy, a bunch of Judgmental A/.,..,.098, Come on back H2O Man

[Adelante]

36. Come home H2O

[yardwork]

53. I'm an Obama supporter who was offended by a particular thread

comparing Hillary Clinton's campaign to lynchings of black people. I resent being called a troll.

[Cooley Hurd]

61. You DIDN'T get H2O Man's thread then, did you?

[Scurrilous]

66. K & R

[MelissaB]

82. Me, too!

[Patsy Stone]

95. I miss you.

K&R

[Moderator]

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