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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:59 PM
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Rasmussen Poll - Obama lead drops 8 points in one day
Now tell me again how the Reverend Wright is not a problem?


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:59 PM
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1. It's a problem, of course. But public opinion is very very fickle.
Obama has 6 weeks. GO!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:02 PM
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7. ha ha . joyous day
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:05 PM
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16. Laugh while you can.
"Your girl" will pay for it later.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:07 PM
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20. ah------be happy.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:09 PM
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26. I'm happy.
It'll be supporters of "your girl" such as yourself who'll need these:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:20 PM
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54. YOUr pillows are all wet
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #54
84. I'm not crying.
All I'm saying is: "Be careful what you wish for."
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 PM
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22. So you're happy that "guilt by association" works so well. Ignored.
You earned this, I with great joy ignore you.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:24 PM
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61. sour grapes!! BOO
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:00 PM
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103. I know Hillary has trouble with the meaning of "denounce", "apology" and "pledge"...
... but I didn't realize that the affliction had transmitted down to her supporters. What is it about "ignored" you didn't understand from the previous poster's comment?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:39 PM
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89. So you take joy in someome else's problems?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:42 PM
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99. It's not joyous for the Democratic party when the likely nominee (very least, potential nominee)
is hurt.

It's sad that some of us have forgotten that fact and shows just how shortsighted people can become.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:47 PM
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107. what a cruel thing for you to say. back to ignore you go.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:19 PM
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52. After six weeks, he'll likely be done.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:22 PM
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57. NO he won't because he will fight it and destroy it.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:24 PM
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62. Not a chance. "God Damn America!!" was legs. Big long, strong legs.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 PM
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65. Not if he shows otherwise. It's an image thing.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 PM
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77. The "image" will be...
Obama standing with his "spiritual adviser of twenty years" (his words) with the sound track of "God damn America"....That is the "image" Give it up he's toast.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:28 PM
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97. and Hillie's fellowship? What about them and their theocratic
enslave the world bullshit? you don't think people aren't digging in that cesspool to hang around her neck?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #57
69. then he'll go down fighting but he has suffered a fatal wound...."God Damn America"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:29 PM
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73. Why is that a fatal wound? Does he look like he hates America?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:29 PM by anonymous171
He's not a tired old bureaucrat who can be destroyed by a simple sound bite. He's an active campaigner who works passionately for America and her citizens.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:25 PM
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102. Gallup: Obama Maintains Slight Edge Over Clinton--49% to 46%, returns to statistical dead heat.
Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains Slight Edge Over Clinton



PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the Democratic nomination remains close, with Gallup Poll Daily tracking showing that 49% of Democratic voters nationwide prefer Barack Obama and 46% Hillary Clinton.

In recent weeks, Obama usually held a slight edge. However, he held a statistically significant lead in only a few of those releases. One of those instances was Friday's release, when Obama led Clinton 50% to 44%.

A major focus of Friday's media coverage of the campaign was controversial remarks on race made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor, which Obama repudiated. Clinton fared better in Friday night interviewing than in prior days. It is unclear if the Wright controversy is affecting Democratic preferences, or if the latest results are just a return to the more normal state of affairs -- a statistical dead heat between Clinton and Obama. Clinton dealt with a racial flare-up of her own in recent days over remarks made by fund-raiser Geraldine Ferraro, who resigned from her position in the Clinton campaign as a result.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104968/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Ma...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 PM
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2. Because the timing of it means it won't be a factor by the time the next round of voting comes....
...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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8. add Resco te he
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
42. Too bad for you there is nothing to Resko.... Whitewater?
Since we are throwing around bogus charges.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #42
64. ha ha ---whitewater is so yesterday. The media like fresh meat
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 PM
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74. Ken Starr spent $75 million of tax payers money digging on Hillary & they came up EMPTY handed
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:32 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #74
92. Was it just Hillary or her and Bill?
Hillary RODHAM Clinton has not been vetted.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
48. Would you please learn to spell?
Your ignorance is astounding.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:20 PM
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55. ASSStounding
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:19 PM
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49. "Resco"
if you are going to invest heavily in the outcome of that particular scandal, getting its name right might be a good start.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 PM
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3. Well, what's good for the geese is good for the gander.
Let's bring up Ron Burkle, Peter Paul, the tax returns, et al.

Hey, Gennifer Flowers' book is coming out, let's throw that in as well.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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Let's not eat our own by flinging mud at Hillary
Instead, attack McCain's supporters

That would show that Obama is focused on the general election and is not afraid of facing the real enemy

Attacking Hillary just looks like two kids in kindergarten can't get along

Going after the big guy (McCain) shows that Obama is ready for the big time
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:06 PM
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18. I need to add that Obama should also say that
he doesn't support Wright's views nor does he support Hagee's views.

But, like most Americans, he thinks that the economy is where we should focus most energy.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:23 PM
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59. Go ahead, it will not displace "God Damn America!!!"
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 PM
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4. Reverend Wright is not a problem.
See how easy that was?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
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12. yup---bubbles float ---MT suits--very light.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:17 PM
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45. Easy there, dancer...
It's just as easy to say 'Nope, no problem...' as it is to scream that the house is burning. Neither one takes much more than a few keystrokes, and neither one means much...
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
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47. Please put down the Kool-Aid you are drinking.
Apparently, someone has spiked it.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:01 PM
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5. It's too soon to draw any conclusions
We'll have to wait a few days at least and see what happens. Even then, Obama has weeks to recover from any negative damage (though the net effect will probably raise his negatives at least a bit even in the long run). This change might increase or pretty much evaporate.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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9. I disagree....
Most of this hit the news on a Friday. We all know Friday is the one day of the week when things are ignored most by the public. If Obama got an 8 point drop in one day then what's going to happen in 3 or 4 days when more and more people begin to understand it?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
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13. They'd rather be talking about the brackets for March Madness
so it'll be a non-story and dead by April.

Hawkeye-X
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:06 PM
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17. Possibly. All we know is that it was a big hit on the day it came out. That hit might evaporate
Or it might stay, or it might grow larger. These things can go either way; we'll just have to wait and see.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:02 PM
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6. interesting how it hasn't effected a single supedelegate
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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10. Just wait, it will. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:24 PM
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101. well in Iowa it is having the reverse impact - Obama is picking up an even larger win
was at the Marshall County Convention. Here are the results from the convention...

http://commoniowan.blogspot.com /

First Alignment

Obama 86
Edwards 46
Clinton 37
Richardson 2

Viability 26

With a few minutes left during realignment, the Edwards group had 24 people, 2 shy of viability. They couldn't get 2 more people and the their group disbanded. Of those 24, 2 went to Clinton and 22 went to Obama.

After Realignment
Obama 125
Clinton 42

Delegates Elected
Obama 24
Clinton 8
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
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11. It's been breaking over the past 24 to 48 hours....
You can bet they are waiting and watching to see which way the wind is gonna blow.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:05 PM
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15. It's already a non-story..
I've already checked where the wind is blowing for the Wright controversy - it's dead, gone, and a distant memory by April.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 PM
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24. not on my tv
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 PM
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35. Only in your dreams
Hell I am in the UK and even here it's a big story.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:23 PM
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60. Good thing citizens of the UK aren't voting in the American eletion
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:24 PM by ProSense
McCain and Hillary don't want to go near that story, and for obvious reasons.

The Fox Noise makers can continue beating that dead horse.


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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:27 PM
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67. Well I am voting .....
I am a US citizen.......there's several million of us living abroad and last time I checked we still get to vote.

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:28 PM
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71. Are you an American expat? If not.. then you know what my response will be....
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #71
104. Yes I am.
I don't really care what your response will be. :eyes:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:24 PM
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106. Not a lot of fire and brimstone preaching in the UK....
..is there? Then again, people aren't waving their national flags at each other 24/7 either across the pond, so this has to be odd to the UK on several levels.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:22 PM
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100. Yeah well the only thing I have been able to pick up are reports that
some Clinton pledged delegates in the Iowa caucus have switched to Obama today.

so good luck with that desperation thing.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:21 PM
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110. And here is Iowa's opinion Obama + 7 delegates
48. OBAMA MAKES MAJOR DELEGATE GAINS IN IOWA
Multiple Media sources have all agreed that Obama will net atleast 7 more delegates in Iowa

Clinton may be up or down one delegate

From DemcomWatch

7:00 EDT: NBC has Obama up 7 to 23, Clinton up 1 to 16, Edwards down 8 to 6.

8:20 EDT: The AP has Obama up 7 to 23, Clinton down 1 to 14, Edwards down 7 to 7, with 1 delegate to be decided.

Update: 9:50 EDT: - Some of the confusion is due to the requirement that a candidate receive 15% in a Congressional District to receive a delegate from that district. Currently, Edwards is projected to be viable in 4 of the 5 CDs, giving him 4 delegates at the CD level, plus 3 at the national level. But he's on the edge of 15% in a couple of CDs, and with some counties still out. If he drops below 15%, he loses the delegate, and it goes to either Clinton or Obama, depending on how the math plays out.

Note: We'll update all our trackers when the AP updates their official delegate count.

By DemcomWatch numbers Obama's magic number will drop to 419

As a point of comparison Clinton's Huge win was +9 delegates - If Clinton ends up losing a delegate in Iowa that will mean that her huge win in Ohio has been wiped out by what happened today in Iowa.

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results ...

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com /

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
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14. Where does it say that?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:07 PM
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19. You're right, it dropped 7 points in one day
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:09 PM by ruggerson
and it's a multi day tracking poll.

"This reflects an unusually sharp change from yesterdays results when Obama led by eight points and reached the 50% level of support for the first time. Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. Last nights results were very favorable for Clinton and it remains to be seen whether this marks a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise. Single night results are based upon very small samples and are more volatile than the overall tracking poll"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 PM
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23. Having trouble reading the data? n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:10 PM
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28. Are you using Obama math?
:evilgrin:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 PM
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34. Let's do a little basic algebra
His lead was 8 points yesterday.

Today it is 1 point.

That is a 7 point drop in his lead in one day, no?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:19 PM
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51. That's not a drop. 50 - 7 < 46 n/t
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:22 PM
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56. Lead, the word is lead
the OP said a drop in his LEAD.

Not a 7 point drop in Obama's number, but the spread between the two.

Do you deliberately do this?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:28 PM
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70. I don't think he understands math.
:toast:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #70
76. She understands it
she's just so blindly partisan, she distorts things.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:09 PM
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25. Look at it...
Yesterday Obama was leading 50% to 42%. That's an 8 percent difference.

Today...it's 46% to 45%......essentialy a dead heat.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:14 PM
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36. It's Far Worse Than That BooScout. It's A 4 Day Rolling Average. This Story Only Affected One Out
of the 4 days. When extrapolating that out, it would appear that it was a 16 point drop yesterday, and that the polling numbers from yesterday were around 50% for Hillary to 35% for Obama. That's a HUGE first day hit, and that's before the news has truly festered in some people's minds.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:15 PM
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39. Sorry.........I never did like math.....
:toast: (pluss I have been watching the six nations rugby and may have had a pint or two)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:23 PM
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58. Thank you. for that explanation.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:12 PM
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31. You're Right. What That Shows Is A One Day Drop Of About 16 Points. That's Horrible.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:07 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
That means yesterday the poll went about 50%-35% for Hillary, or almost a 25 point swing between them both. That's a really bad first day hit. Really bad.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 PM
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21. I think he dropped 4
he was at 50 now at 46, Hillary 42 now at 45

or is the math that he dropped 8 but because it is a tracking poll it only shows as 4 point drop overall?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:11 PM
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29. The spread dropped 8 n/t
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:19 PM
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50. no, spread dropped 7
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:09 PM
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27. Nobody questions this? I just want to see the figures
Show the percentages, the stats, the link, somethin?

I just went to Rasmussen, and the daily tracking poll has no such figure.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:12 PM
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33. Yes it does...look again
It was 50-42 yesterday....for Obama.

Today they are essentially even.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:19 PM
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53. essentially even is not even. he holds a 1% lead.
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:36 PM
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86. Uhhhh.....nevermind
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:37 PM
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98. when two polls scores are within the margin of error, they are even
statistically. Measurement error is as likely to account for the difference as a real opinion difference in the underlying population that's being sampled.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:12 PM
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30. The worst "scandal" Obama will face this election cycle and Hillary still can't overcome his lead?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
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40. She Did Take The Lead. In Fact, She Blew Him Out Of The Water.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:07 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
It's a 4 day tracking poll. This story was only one day of it. For that one day, though the results are far more volatile, still show that it was likely a 25 point swing in her direction, with her taking the night poll by probably 50% Hillary to 35% Obama or so. I'd say that's a pretty comfortable one night win.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
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It's a four day tracking poll
it couldn't have changed this much in one night without a huge change in the numbers, because it still includes three days of polling PRIOR to the Wright news. Mon/Tues results will be the more reliable numbers.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:12 PM
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32. Notat all keep watching the polls.=) FIRED UP
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 PM by barack the house
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:15 PM
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37. Welcome to the rollercoaster...
PA is a long ways away, but good tidings and a happy weekend for Hillary's supporters.

:) from an Obama supporter
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exsoccermom Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:35 PM
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85. Thank You
And for your sake, I will hope that my fear of other, worse tapes that show the Obamas in house will not pop up after the convention.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:15 PM
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38. Can you read polls?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
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43. Yup....can you?
:toast:
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
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41. Hillary is still behind after all that? You should be discouraged
Is there anything that will make people actually support Hillary? Her only hope is people not supporting Obama.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 PM
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75. IT IS A 4 DAY AVERAGE - THE DAY AFTER WRIGHT ITS HILLARY 50% OBAMA 35%!!!!!
Damn, read some polls properly.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:51 PM
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94. I did, did you read the poll? Let me quote
"Last nights results were very favorable for Clinton and it remains to be seen whether this marks a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise. Single night results are based upon very small samples and are more volatile than the overall tracking poll."

The poll is inconclusive according to those who took it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:17 PM
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44. You Must Be Thrilled
go out and celebrate the fact that our country still harbors racist views and can't handle the truth about our war history.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 PM
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63. No I am not thrilled......I am pissed off.....
That the Democrats have probably blown any freaking chance to take the WH.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:27 PM
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68. I am starting to feel that way also. --and it is not a good feeling.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:45 PM
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91. yup
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
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46. correlation is not equal to causation
.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:18 PM
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105. They better "hope" it's causation and not correlation.
Because if that drop in his popularity is not directly related to the Wright debacle, then the Obama camp is in serious trouble because it means his popularity is dropping despite Wright, and therefore how would they even begin to address the problem if they don't know the cause? If his popularity is dropping, then the Wright debacle will precipitate a further drop, if the cause is perhaps people changing their perception that he's the "unity" or "change" candidate.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:26 PM
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66. Damn, and Obama ran on Hillary's "negatives"
I knew would it would turn on him -- it's always surprising though, how fast these things can occur.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:31 PM
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80. Where do you get that? He runs on "Hope and Change" not "Hillary is evil"
Hillary however, runs on "Obama is a terrorist" and "Don't trust him" and "Obama will kill us all."
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:37 PM
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87. You really missed it?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:37 PM by DemGa
Obama has routinely proclaimed he was the better candidate because Hillary was "polarizing and divisive" and would "unite the opposition."

Obama's made much use of the right-wing attacks of the nineties -- Hillary's "negatives."
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:39 PM
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88. Saying Hillary is "divise" isn't a RW attack-- It's true.
To say that Hillary is a lesbian or that she and Bill murdered Vince Foster would be a RW attack. <- None of that is true, BTW.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:28 PM
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72. Is this CNN's spin? How about answering where the 50% came from?
Yesterday's 50% boost came from where? The Wright issue? Now take that 50% out and your left with the normal fluctuation. But the real story is where did the 50% come from?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:31 PM
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79. ummmmmmmmm......Hope?
:eyes:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 PM
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78. Its looking better for President John McCain all the time
Not bad since he is Hillary's second choice after herself.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:34 PM
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83. He wants nothnig to do with this religion stuff. Wonder why?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:32 PM
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81. You can wank to a national poll all you want. Obama has sealed the deal with delegates
It's nearly impossible for the Goldwater Girl to catch up. Enjoy your delusion. The game is over and you think you still have a chance.

:rofl:


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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:44 PM
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90. The supers can walk away from him....
and if you think they won't if he tanks in the polls then you are deluding yourself.

The supers were created for just this type of scenario.
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mchill Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:47 PM
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93. The two publicly undeclared Superdelegates I know
are not abandoning him. :)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:33 PM
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82. Not too worried...I think it'll be back up by Wednesday. .nt
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:01 PM
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95. See the detailed graph in this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Posted this morning, reposted every day, ignored by other people who see the Rasmussen graph.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:20 PM
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96. Obama lead?
Wow, he's got the lead.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:55 PM
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108. I believe it will continue to drop over the next six weeks. This Wright story is
not going to go away. The media is now exploiting the story to the hilt (almost every lead in story on the major channels is about this). Could this be Obama's "Dean Scream" moment? Remember how the media played and replayed the scream, well I see the same thing with the Wright story. His lead will continue to drop because the story is a turn off for most Americans regardless of political affiliation. I think cross over votes and independents will think twice about voting for him in the GE. Really, not a good moment for Barack.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:56 PM
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109. How nice of you to NOT post a link so that we could easily check that you're blowin' smoke here.
Here are the numbers the last several days:

Democratic Primary

Date C O
3/15 45% 46%
3/14 42% 50%
3/13 41% 48%
3/12 42% 47%
3/11 41% 48%
3/10 44% 46%

And so on ...

Do you just get kicks out of posting nonsense titles or are you just stupid?

:dem:
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