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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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WTF? Despite Rev. Wright, white folks join Black folks in chanting "YES WE CAN!" in Indy?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:58 PM by wndycty
Don't they realize Obama is a dangerous man? :sarcasm:

I'm watching the Obama rally, and despite the race baiting use of the manufactured Wright controversy he is talking to a multi-cultural crowd in Plainfield, IN, right outside of Indianapolis.

Folks Obama is showing how we are going to move this country forward. He is leading. He is unbowed. The racist right wing and the faction (by no means all) of the Clinton camp known as the Krazy Klinton Krew must be having fits. They were unable to paint him as the angry Black man.

BTW we he is talking about domestic abuse right now.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:58 PM
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1. Good...........
.......happy to see that more and more Americans see this whole Rev Wright debacle for what it is................
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:58 PM
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2. I came in to discuss Obama's great speech. Your "KKK" Clinton crap makes that impossible. Too bad.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:58 PM by writes3000
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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4. Let me give you an HRC answer "sorry if I offended anyone"
Isn't that a believable apology?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM
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25. LOL
excellent framing.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:08 PM
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28. Or "I take the Clinton camp at its word when they say they didn't use race to marginalize Obama"
:kick:
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:21 PM
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38. best reply yet. n/t
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:21 PM
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39. No, it' s "sorry if you were offended" She never admits that "she" could be wrong.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:55 PM
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58. That's right..I thought that previous "apology"
was a little too compassionate for hilary.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:27 PM
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48. You mean to say "Sorry if you were offended."
"Sorry if I offended" still takes some blame. "Sorry if you were offended" places the blame on the recipient, in Clintonesque glory.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:00 PM
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7. I was so excited to rec this post but couldn't because of that.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:58 PM
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3. Hellova speech!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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5. GOBAMA!! nt
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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6. domestic abuse?
wonder if thats a veiled shot
nahh
im still with obama
when wright runs for president
i will probably not vote for him
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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12. Yes he is talking issues, domestic abuse, ethanol, women's pay, paranoia veiled as "Security"
Answers a question about valuing freedom over fear.

:kick:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:00 PM
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8. Using "KKK" must be the new "unity politics"---NT
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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14. I'm trying to find the threads where you were thumping those who supported Ferraro's comments.
A little help here ...
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 PM
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No some in the HRC camp defended the use of racism so the KKK is justifiable
:kick:
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM
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27. I agree
It's not pretty, but HRC wanted this fight in the gutter. She's getting it. KKK is justifiable.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:09 PM
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29. That is the fight they want, that is the fight they will get. I got a kitchen sink too.
:kick:
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:21 PM
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37. Nice!
If I had a house, I'd throw that, too.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:23 PM
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41. If they Can Use Cult
I don't see why we can't use Klan, although when I used it, my post was deleted. Perhaps we better disguise it as Clan.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:27 PM
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45. Today is the only day I will use that type of phrasing. . .unless of course they keep
that shit up.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:03 PM
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17. Look I'm still pissed by the way some of Hillary's supporters have exploited racism
I know folks are offended but I don't apologize.

:kick:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:39 PM
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53. C'mon wndycty. Didn't your momma teach you to be polite around the white folk?
:P

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:43 PM
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54. She told me they feel the can offend you but they get mighty upset when you offend them. . .
. . .I thought she was lying but. . .
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:46 PM
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55. As a white person, I find that totally offensive!!!!!1111
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:46 PM by jgraz

Edit:1111111
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:47 PM
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56. ;)
:kick:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:25 PM
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43. Disgusting, isn't it?
That'll really create some unity. I guess the O-bots don't need anyone else.

Bake
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:27 PM
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46. Yes, and it's always "justifiable" through some rampant supposition---NT
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:00 PM
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9. I'm watching him speak on the local station right now. *goosebumps*
The tickets for this event were swept up in less than 90 minutes. I haven't a clue how one even got in the cue to get one of these tickets.

He's speaking to 2000 people in a packed gymnasium.

Awesome.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:00 PM
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10. Q&A.. this is great ! Hopefully the networks will pick up some of it.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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11. Why are you watching FOX?nt
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:02 PM
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16. Why are you lying again?
Where did he say it's coming from Faux?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 PM
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19. Locally, the Fox affiliate was carrying the speech, and no one else.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 PM
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21. For the record I'm watching this online on CNN
:kick:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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13. I really wish we'd stop that "Krazy Klinton Krew" stuff
it doesn't do anyone any good.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:06 PM
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24. what - its not as tactful as the Klinton Silent (Race) Whistle? n/t
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM
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26. There is a chip on my shoulder right now and I don't deny it antagonizes folks. . .
. . .but I'm sick and God Damned tired of how the issues of race and division have been used against Obama and then he is blamed for race baiting.

I make no apologies.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:13 PM
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33. I agree with your sentiment about how race and division have
been used in this campaign. And we should be angry as a community: I was horrified this week at the frankly racist attitudes expressed here at DU based solely on allegiance to a candidate.

I wish you'd use different tactics, but you are your own person
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:17 PM
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34. I understand your take and normally I would be more restrained but in the last 24 hours. . .
. . .I have seen a good church (Trinity) and a good man (Wright) vilified for the sake politics. A politics designed to paint Obama and his associates as angry Black men.

Tell that to my Grandpa who served in WWII was wounded for his country and still was called a ni@@er and forced to use a separate bathroom than white co-workers.

Today, I will be angry.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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15. That was wonderful!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:03 PM
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18. You know what? There are MANY "white" folks who welcome this discussion.
The key is for EVRYONE to be honest about what's going on. This will help all of us to accept our responsibilities in the issue.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 PM
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20. Your Use Of KKK Makes You Look Like An Utter Idiot.
Jackass.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 PM
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22. the Klinton Klan is starting to sound Krazy to alot of people
Krazy and desperate.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 PM
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23. Hey..I support Obama too
And I understand the frustration with all the negative threads we read here..I get angry too.
But I must say that using a broad brush to paint a group is unfair and names like "Krazy Klinton Krew " is just wrong.
I don't know what is in the hearts of those who post here.
I have friends here that I know aren't bigots and support Mrs Clinton.
And they are people just like you and I
Just my 2 cents.

And also...I am listening to Obama right now as well..He is an amazing speaker.
:hi:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:11 PM
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31. In the OP I mentioned it as a faction. . .
. . .not the entire campaign. I understand the sensitivity. But that same sensitivity has not applied to many Clinton supporters when it came to using race to marginalize Obama.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:17 PM
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35. I just think name calling negates the message.
You can't anger someone over to your side.
More flies with honey they say.

Try staying positive..If you hate the threads you are reading than don't emulate them.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:23 PM
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40. That is a chance I will take today
:kick:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:28 PM
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50. Than you have become your enemy
..I'll leave this thread now
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:09 PM
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30. Too bad you ruined your own thread.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:12 PM
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32. Hey I got three of them a day and I don't mind it. . .I'm frustrated with what is going on. . .
. . .and I reserve the right to express that frustration.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:28 PM
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49. I agree, you do have the right. But shooting yourself in the foot is a usually a bad tactic.
You had people in this thread that liked what you said until the lame ass KKK shit. See how far that gets you and your frustration in this world. You can make points without that shit, and it serve you far better to try that approach if you really care about getting your point across. :shrug:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:39 PM
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52. I know, but today, after this week I couldn't hold my frustration in. . .
. . .I definitely understand what you are saying, and don't really disagree. But sometimes you just have to get it off of your chest, I got it off of my chest.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:19 PM
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36. I take Hillary at her word that she's not a Klan member
As far as I know...

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:24 PM
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42. LOL
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:26 PM
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44. I'm waiting for her to speak at Central High and long for
the good old days.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:27 PM
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47. What flavor is the Kool-aid today?
:beer:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:29 PM
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51. For me the "angry Black man" its chocolate. . .
. . .would you like some? LOL
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:56 PM
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61. CHOCOLATE!!!!!!
how's that?
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:52 PM
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57. I hear that you are angry and fustrated, but using the KKK is irresponsible.
From Wikipedia:

"Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the name of several past and present organizations in the United States that advocated white supremacy, antisemitism, anti-Catholicism, racism, homophobia, anti-Communism and nativism. These organizations used terrorism, violence, lynching and cross lighting to oppress African Americans and other religious, social or ethnic groups."

It is the antithesis of what most Clinton supporters are. It's a ruthless attack with no basis in reality.

It diminishes your credibility and does not help your candidate.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:55 PM
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59. If you re-read the OP you will notice the KKK reference refers to a certain faction. . .
. . .not the entire crew. I thought I made that clear.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:01 PM
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62. I read it and you did.
But I still reject your definition of that sub-group.

There are hateful, bile-spewing nitwits in both camps. I just don't think stooping to their level is of much benefit.

You got a lot of feedback about this in this thread. You can take it or leave it.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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63. I got the feed back, am not ignoring it, I needed to blow off a little steam
;)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:07 PM
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64. In regards to some posters here...
...and in my own personal exchanges with some Clinton supporters here in Missouri, in the Ozarks and Franklin county, I definately don't scoff at your use of that reference for today. Unless we acknowledge that there are those out there that are supporting Clinton and/or McCain for purely racist reasons, and there are, we're likely to give their disgusting views more visibility than they should have.

National Alliance, a white supremist organization, was officially against the Iraq war. That doesn't mean I want any of those fuckers sitting at a table with me. And frankly, those that wouldn't vote for Hillary because she is a woman are just as likely, or more likely, to support McCain because they are knuckle dragging jackasses, than to be supporting Obama. But there are plenty of old school racists left in the Democratic party. For whatever reason, they stuck around when Strom and the rest of the Dixiecrats left.

Maybe when it comes time, they won't be able to get over themselves and pull the Obama lever in the General Election. Maybe they will stay home or vote for McCain. But in all honesty, I'd prefer they go ahead and expose themselves now for the bigots that they are, because I want to make sure I don't invite them to the table, for dinner or anything else.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:11 PM
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65. And too be fair to Clinton a ton of men are supporting Obama for sexist reasons. . .
. . .I'm not going to bury my head in the sand. I deplore racism and sexism and I believe that there are folks who support Hillary because they don't want to see a Black men elected and there are some who Barack because they don't want to see a woman elected.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:56 PM
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60. K & R
:thumbsup:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:44 PM
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66. Locking
FLamebait
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