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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:56 PM
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There are 2 economic crisises in America the economy as it relates to everyone & the parallel black
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:59 PM by rosebud57
economy and how it relates to the educational, health and welfare opportunities of African Americans.

If you can because you don't live in one of the states that is overwhelmingly white, or unless you can't because you live too far from an urban city, drive through the black neighborhoods. Get out and ask someone to show you the inside of their tenement apartments. Check out the vacant buildings and the glass and refuse strewn vacant lots. Make note of the polluting industries located nearby. Look down at the sidewalk. That is where the peeling lead based paint becomes pulverized underfoot and inhaled by black children as particulate matter. Make note of memorials to murder victims. Look for graffiti with R.I.P. or for Teddy Bears and Mylar balloons tied to utility poles where young black men were gunned down. Check out all the working age people during workday hours. They don't have jobs. They aren't part of the unemployment statistics because they have given up.

America is definitely in the midst of an economic crisis. The point I want to make is the economic crisis that effects black America is much worse, actually slipping backwards (recent data) and is morally unacceptable.

What I described above IS what I see every day in the urban midwestern city I live in. It's not something I "got" from watching The Wire on HBO.

America needs Barack Obama. 12% of our population does need hope.

And economic and social justice.

To not talk about the problems that are unique to African Americans and to pretend their is an equivalency between the plight of white democrats & black democrats is disingenuous.

To use African Americans for their relable Democratic votes for decades and then infer that voting for Obama rather than a white politician with a D after their name is racist, or naive, is insulting.

Hell yes, Wright is pissed off. How could he not be? Chicago ain't Idaho. And he didn't figure out what 21st century America is still like for African Americans by watching HBO.

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:22 PM
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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:23 PM
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2. Huh? My BOSS is black
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:31 PM by hueyshort
He makes more than I do.
Many of my co-workers are black.

Obama is black. I couldn't afford his million+ dollar mansion.
Obama's wife's salary is 6 times mine.

The governor of my state is black.

You're saying I'm supposed to help them out?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 AM
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3. The fact that your boss is black & makes more than you, & that Obama & wife both with law school
degrees are well off, does not negate anything I wrote above.

There are disparities between white & black America, in every measure of well-being. They have consequences for all of us. At least that is what Democrats normally believe.

When a child of an uninsured low-income employed Baltimore mother ends up in ICU for weeks before dieing because of a tooth infection, it costs taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Anyone who parrots the GOP talking points regarding the disparities between black & white America is not offering solutions.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:18 AM
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6. Have you ever been to the neighborhoods near Obama's church?
There are reasons that many in the audience respond to Wright's talk of America being run by rich white people, and one reason is simple: there are some FUCKED UP places down on the South Side! The fact that your boss and many coworkers are black is a sign that the middle class is getting more black people and that is progress, but there are many left behind and it is still a testament to the state of our country that when one walks 8 blocks south from 55th and Woodlawn, it feels like they've entered a whole other country.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:03 AM
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4. That's why Hillary MUST win
We have to get the economy on the move and universal health care and education reform.

Nothing makes change faster that effective policy driven by social and economic justice and executed with competence.

That and ending these wars and bringing the troops home.

THAT is what Hillary has the determination and ability to do.

On race and racism and economic injustice:- it's not what you SAY you will do about it, but what you DO about it.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:09 AM
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5. So far all we have is what Hillary says she will do, POTUS is not a dictatorship
Congress those 2 other equal branches of government actually pass legislation

A polarizing unpopular figure can not wave a magic wand & make everything right.

Even if individual Rs want to vote with Ds on what Hillary wants, the constituents of those Rs will badger them not to.

Plus Hill hurts down ticket races.

Regarding walking, not just talking, do you know nothing of Obama's biography?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:19 AM
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7. You may hate her but interestingly enough
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:37 AM by JoFerret
she was known as someone people could work with in the senate.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:53 AM
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8. I do not hate her, I am a pragmatist, a large enough percentage of the electorate hates her for
her candidacy to be very risky for the Democratic party. I do not want to gamble.

I don't think boomer white women are owed this. SCOTUS is too important for boomer white women to insist that POTUS in '08 is owed to them.

Low-income women are the highest demo for abortion statistics. SCOTUS is even more important to black women's economic & educational opportunities than it is to boomer white woman who are pre or post menopausal.

FYI I am a boomer white woman.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:10 PM
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9. She can win and arguably she is the stronger nominee
Although much of that is speculation and is unknown. But it is my opinion nevertheless. And I am one who believes we MUST win and that we have two GREAT candidates.
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