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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 PM
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Does anyone here think that Obama is a (EEEK!!) Radical?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
He is, at best, slightly left of Hillary Clinton to a minuscule degree.

Neither he, and certainly not Hillary pose any threat to the establishment, and even the Rev is unlikely to cause fear of bloody revolution.

The whole thing is sadly laughable.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM
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1. I don't think he's a radical at all
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:19 PM
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2. No.
I actually think he's more conservative than HRC, if that's possible.

:shrug:
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 PM
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3. He certainly surrounds himself with them
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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9. which ones are those besides perhaps Wright?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 PM
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4. Absolutely not
I don't believe for one second that he has any resentment towards America. I read most of his first book and I have heard him speak, and he expresses nothing but pride and gratitude toward his country. If anything, he probably appreciates the United States more than a lot of us, since the United States made it possible for his father to escape poverty in Kenya and get an education.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
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5. No, and that's the paradox of the Obama supporters. They THINK he is the changemaster.
When in truth, he grabs money when it's offered by shady people, denies anything that is presented with a smile, and disbelief that no one would trust him, associates with Pastors Gone Wild for twenty years so he can work the sanctuary for his own interest, is vague about his plans, has a compliant wife that is the recipient of his position to fling cash, crys (fill in the blank) tactics when it gets too rough, promises to stop the war, and smiles alot.

That's a real change there kids.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:27 PM
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6. no - he is to the left of Hill on small stuff - well to the right of Hill are anything with a chance
of becoming law - heck - his chief economic adviser told Kudlow that the large social programs proposed were just campaign talk and that as the Obama camp did not expect those programs to pass, Kudlow and the rest of the CNBC GOP talking heads need not worry about any increase in the deficit. Even on NAFTA - he says the memo of his campaign's meeting with Canada (a meeting he denied took place until the memo recording the meeting surfaced) is wrong but changes prior statements that NAFTA would be changed to "faur trade" principles or scrapped, into a new statement that in future discussions with Canada he will say that NAFTA might be ended if not change to a more fair trade agreement.

So is Obama too to the left - the GOP will say so

but I find him looking more like GOP lite - but then changing the atmosphere in DC means agreeing with the GOP - so that is not a surprise.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:29 PM
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7. LOL! No. I think he's a progressive with a little conservative streak, actually.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:32 PM
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8. If he was I'd like him. The two choices are so similar it's scary.
Which makes watching the intense hate from both sides even more pathetic. If you like one you'd be happy with the other. Which I think illustrates the danger of getting so emotionally invested in a candidate that the emotion takes over reason.
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 PM
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14. Thank you...if only everyone else "got it" n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM
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10. Probably not radical enough for my taste
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:38 PM
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18. I agree, Shadow...
...although unfortunately most people in this country are probably not as radical as you or I.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:10 AM
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25. Gods I hope not
;-)
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 PM
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11. I don't think he is
Some of the people around him may be. But I always thought he was more of a moderate.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:39 PM
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12. Yes, in the best way.
I think he's genuinely dedicated to benefitting the American populace, all of them, in the way that FDR and JFK were. Hillary is definitely NOT. Her whole career shows nothing but posturing and patronizing for the benefit of the rich including herself.
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:43 PM
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13. About as radical as Ward Cleaver
(not Eldridge)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:16 PM
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15. A radical? LOL!
I'd actually rather vote for Wright.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:34 PM
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17. Me too.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:44 PM
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20. Calling Iraq a "dumb, rash war" in 2002 is radical enough for me.
Radically different from Hillary, that's for damn sure.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:20 PM
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16. Nope. But then, who is, anymore? n/t
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:41 PM
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19. Well, Wright proves he's a scary, radical black man
Better keep an eye on the children. :sarcasm:

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:48 PM
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21. Agreed. It's about corporatism.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:51 PM by TahitiNut
Clinton is a full-blown corporatist ... and Obama is an acolyte corporatist. Clinton takes postures on social ("wedge") issues consistent with the Good-Cop-Bad-Cop tactics of the two wings of the Corporatist Party (GOP and "Dem"). Obama takes mostly culturally-based stances on those issues - but he's learning.



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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 PM
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22. Yep. He's marginally "not as bad" as Hillary.
But, the way some are reacting you'd think he and the rev were setting up guillotines in the Mall.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 PM
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23. Some of the GD:P zealots seem to belong in long-sleeved, white, canvas jackets.
... with lots of buckles, not buttons. I read posts here that portray batshit insanity - indicating almost no rational thought processes and no grasp on reality. It's cult-like - far worse than sports fans, even.

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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
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24. no, he is no where strong strong enough on GLBT rights.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM by AGirl
to see how radical a person is, i judge him based on how he treats the most marginalized members of the society, transgender. He ain't no good on that..

is he a little more less right wing than Hillary? probably. No big differences from what I can see now. But he seems to be a tad better.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:17 AM
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26. I don't....
but some people here will pretend they do. Similarly, some people here pretend to believe that Clinton is a theocratic Christian conservative.

People lie a lot.
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