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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:16 PM
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Is there such a thing as the Rush Limbaugh faction of the Democratic Party?
If not, well then I think that this new phrase needs to be coined.

Remember supporters, you lay with dogs, you get up with flees. Lots of fleas been buzzing around here lately.

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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 PM
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1. It is called the new Clinton BASE -- red-neck, older, less-educated
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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2. FU - I do not fit that description one bit.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:40 PM
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3. Any one that thinks Democrats have anything to do with Limbaugh, needs to study politics
Evidentally Obama needs to as my grandfather used to say SCHOOL his voters.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:45 PM
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4. Nor do I. Uncalled for and rude.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 PM
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5. Well, today on DU someone called Obama a "nation hater"
and in the same thread someone railed on him for not wearing a flag pin. So if, in fact, that person is a Democrat... I'd have to say yes.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:55 PM
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6. Been seeing a lot of Rush Fox News talking points on here lately. I would never repeat them.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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7. How do you think Rush got where he is today?
By telling lies about Bill and Hillary.

We must have lots of people new to politics on DU because anyone who was around in the 90s knows that Bill and Hillary were considered devils by right-wingers and most especially by racist right wingers.

Bill got in huge trouble because he nominated a black woman to be I think it was Surgeon General. It turns out the black female doctor said teen masturbation was OK. Bill was crucified on right wing radio for nominating this woman.

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Huge Ego Sorry Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:37 PM
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8. Joycelyn Elders was her name...
And, she didn't just say that teen masturbation was OK (which it is), she said that it should probably be taught in schools (which is like training your dog to lick itself.)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:01 PM
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13. I started thinking about that...
a while back when noticing how much vitriol the Clinton Campaign managed to inspire. With all the Clinton's did to move the party to the right you would think the Republican's would have been grateful. I don't know what sparked the hate/hate relationship, but they seem to have kissed and made up..behind the scenes anyway...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillary...
When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.

Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.
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Coe's friends include former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Reaganite Edwin Meese III, and ultraconservative Rep. Joe Pitts (R-Pa.). Under Coe's guidance, Meese has hosted weekly prayer breakfasts for politicians, businesspeople, and diplomats, and Pitts rose from obscurity to head the House Values Action Team, an off-the-record network of religious right groups and members of Congress created by Tom DeLay. The corresponding Senate Values Action Team is guided by another Coe protg, Brownback, who also claims to have recruited King Abdullah of Jordan into a regular study of Jesus' teachings.

The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by Godleaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance.


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These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfastregularly attended by about 40 membersis a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.

Unlikely partnerships have become a Clinton trademark. Some are symbolic, such as her support for a ban on flag burning with Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and funding for research on the dangers of video games with Brownback and Santorum. But Clinton has also joined the gop on legislation that redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms. With Santorum, Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act; she didn't back off even after Republican senators such as Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter pulled their names from the bill citing concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobssay, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics.



New Democrat Movement
GROUP

The right wing current of the Democratic party, characterized by its neoliberal economic policies, support of Israel, desire to increase defense spending, and links to heavy donors and fundraisers.

Believes that "left-wing" positions are not politically viable. Describes itself as "moderate and pro-growth". Probably responsible for erosion of the Democratic Party's historical labor and minority base due to support of treaties like NAFTA, lack of support for affirmative action and poverty programs, and their siphoning away of campaign funds from minority groups.

At the national level, the movement was founded by the Democratic Leadership Council (501c4 educational non-profit, founded 1984) and includes the House New Democrat Coalition (founded 1997), the Senate New Democrat Coalition (founded 2000), the New Democrat Network PAC (founded 1996), the misnamed Progressive Policy Institute (501c4 think tank, "Bill Clinton's idea mill", founded 1989), and the umbrella funding group The Third Way Foundation (501c3 non-profit, founded 1996).

Since coming to power within the Democratic Party with Bill Clinton's presidency, the New Democrats/DLC have worked towards "essentially the same purpose as the Christian Coalition... to pull a broad political party dramatically to the right" according to John Nichols of The Progressive.

DLC operatives actively worked to sabotage Howard Dean's candidacy for the US Presidency in 2004, claiming that the "far-left" Democrat was wrong to attack George W. Bush's tax cuts and national security policies.

Corporate contributors to the DLC and New Democratic Network include Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, DuPont, General Electric, Health Insurance Corporation of America, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Philip Morris, RJR Nabisco, Chevron, Prudential Foundation, Amoco Foundation, AT&T, Morgan Stanley, Occidental Petroleum, Raytheon, and many other Fortune 500 companies.

The New Democrat Movement is sometimes referred to as the Dixiecrat movement due to the DLC's origination in the southern states, their desire to get rid of affirmative action, and their membership's overwhelming whiteness.

" shift the primary focus from racism, the traditional enemy without, to self-defeating patterns of behavior " --Chuck Robb, 2nd DLC Chairman, Governor & Senator of the Great State of Virginia, White Man, 1986.

"I'm from the democratic wing of the Democrat Party" --Paul Wellstone, progressive Democrat, criticizing the New Democrat Movement.

"Democrats for the Leadership Class" --Jesse Jackson, progressive black Democrat, describing the DLC.


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:39 PM
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9. Obviously, since I just read an OP that cited Newsmax.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:45 PM
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10. I think it's more Jekyll and Hyde...
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:49 PM
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11. I think we are seeing it expose itself in the 'Rev.Wright' Outrage' here-
:shrug:

peace~
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:52 PM
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12. Hillary "supporters" now openly quote Limbaugh, Hannity, et al and even proudly say: "I just
saw this on FOX NEWS !"

If the shoe fits...
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:56 PM
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14. DUers refer to Fox and Limbaugh, etc all the time
but not with approval!
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:23 PM
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15. I definitely understand your frustration
And I think we probably must have some observations in common. I wonder if there isn't a healthy way to address ignorance when we notice it?

Is it possible that people who initially have the impulse to throw Obama under the bus because of a lack of understanding of African American culture can be educated? David Gergen's comments were a good start.

I am hoping to see a rejection of that casual convenient natural almost unintentional racism.

I hope that our fellow Democrats can be open minded enough to recognize it without feeling threatened. It is discomferting to be wrong and to admit to having been wrong many times in the past. But, there is no shame in finally acknowledging what a person might have held just beneath their surface attitudes. The shame is the unwillingness to admit it and move in a more positive direction.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:59 AM
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16. Honesty is important for me. And in all honesty, as a Democrat, I could never use right wing
talking points to slay a fellow Democrat. Certain folk seem to have no problem with it.
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