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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:59 PM
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TOON: Obama is a lucky bastard
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:02 PM
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1. K&R
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:03 PM
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2. Women have their own historical burdens to overcome.
We'll just leave it at that.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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5. not even comparable
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM by adoraz
you can't compare slavery to what women have had to overcome.

yes their challenges were bad, but come on.

whites of both genders (especially males) have always been far better off.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:10 PM
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6. Oh really?
Let's start with a right to vote.
Women got it fifty years after black men did.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 PM
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7. very true
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM by adoraz
But women didn't have to deal with the KKK after they were given the right.

I am in no way saying that women have had it easy. I am simply saying that comparing their American histories with blacks is absolutely ridiculous. It almost seems disrespectful. Blacks went through slavery- probably the worst thing imaginable. No, its actually not. the worst thing imaginable was afterwards living with fear of the KKK. White women, especially in the South, have always been far better off through history. White men however, easily were far better off than women were, and I also don't think that is comparable (white women have a far worse history).

thats just my opinion though. I don't want to start a race/sex war.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:54 PM
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17. ding ding ding - women weren't routinely lynched or had their balls cut off n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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22. Not in the usa, but there is certainly genital mutilation occurring against women elsewhere in the
world. :(
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:24 PM
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34. However, routinely raped, beaten and pauperized
Really, this discussion is not worth having. Racism and sexism are wrong. That is what matters.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:01 PM
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24. It does't "almost" seem disrespectful,
it is a copmletely ignorant statement and extremely crude to put it mildly.

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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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8. Black people didn't get to actually vote until 1965 (South)
the passage of the civil rights act,

Thats how long it took ,100 years, for the 15th amendment to take root and as for black women during the suffragist movement white southern women made Black women march in the back of the parades, even the suffragist movement was segrgated
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
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9. Incredibly ignorant.
Were women purposefully blocked from voting by unfair "voter tests"? Were they lynched for voting or for registering other women to vote?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:57 PM
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23. Educate yourself.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:52 PM
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30. apples and oranges here. Its like comparing to see whose bruises
are worse.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:42 PM
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12. Women were also considered property and could be killed/raped by their husband
Its not an either or situation. I was also surprised that woman were not allowed to vote until after blacks.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:51 PM
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15. are you from the states?
because I thought womens suffrage was common knowledge, voting rights for women not until after the WWI
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM
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27. I hate to tell you, but AA weren't "considered" anything. They WERE property.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:21 PM
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33. Somebody needs to crack open a history book or two.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 12:22 PM by Kahuna
:crazy:

Not directed at you but the poster you responded to.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:20 PM
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32. Blacks were never considered property and raped. Right?
:crazy:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:54 PM
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18. They do but did anyone of Obama's people say
"hilary was lucky"? Didn't think so.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:55 PM
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20. Obama's pastor sure had some things to say about Hillary, but
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM by lizzy
maybe you missed that.
I don't want to repeat what he said, but it would appear to me that he was going towards Hillary being the lucky one since she ain't a black man.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:06 PM
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26. hilary's a tool and has the power elite
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM by zidzi
behind her.

And, Obama denounced the incendiary remarks of the Reverend Wright.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:49 PM
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29. What he actually said... Hillary doesn't know what it's like to be black ...
... because she's never been called a n****r.

Seems inarguable, to me. And I don't see where Wright's calling Hillary "lucky" -- as Ferraro explicitly did, in regards to Obama.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 PM
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25. Yes, women were stolen from other counties and continents
ripped from their families and sold into slavery.

For you to make any comparison really opens my eyes to the type of person you really must be.

You must fit into that magic 25% of Hillary supporters that say there is "just something about him" when it comes to Barack that you "just can't put your finger on."
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:29 PM
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28. Lucky bitches
:hide:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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3. Thanks!
:thumbsup:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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4. K and R. nt
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM
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10. Brilliant. n/t
-Laelth
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:39 PM
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11. k&r
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 PM
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13. Imperialism should be added
His father was African.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 PM
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14. LOL :)
:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:52 PM
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16. Oh, that's a Keeper!
Freakin' ferraro.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:55 PM
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19. Okay, that's funny.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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21. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
:rofl:

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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:09 PM
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31. A picture is worth a thousand words.
:kick:
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