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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 PM
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**Breaking ABC News *** Clinton Supporters Give up posting at Daily Kos***
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:19 PM by grantcart
Clinton-Obama War Creates Serious Tensions at DailyKos

March 15, 2008 10:14 AM

This is how ugly things have gotten between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama -- Clinton supporters are staging what they call a "strike" at the influential liberal website DailyKos.

It's not really a "strike" -- blogging for these diarists is not a job, and stopping their blogging won't cause them financial hardship.

But, that said, these diarists' boycott of DailyKos is indicative of the turmoil in which the Democratic party finds itself.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/clinton...


Well this should get some comments
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:19 PM
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1. Will this spread to DU?
One can only hope.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Or could it be explaining certain patterns of responses we have been
seeing - a 'refugee flow'?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. Interesting theory
Should the UN be brought in to monitor the refugee camp?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #13
120. Hasn't the UN suffered enough?
:D
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. No more Hillbots screaming REZKO and WRIGHT while foaming at the mouth? Man that'd be awesome.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #5
105. Wow. You should go there.
It sounds like you'd like it.

Bake
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. right, cause all we need
are your stupid posts to go unanswered. That is democracy. Why don't you just go to a mirror and talk to yourself.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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10. It's because of Obama and Hillary's supporters
that we will probably have President McCain next year.

Some people just like defeat, I guess.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. They can join the heavenly choir at hillaryis44
and continue to collaborate with the McCain for President campaign.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
123. LOL. You win this thread.
:thumbsup:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
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16. Kinda reminds me of '04...
When a large group of adamant Dean supporters switched all their avatars to Lieberman and left soon after to start their own site.

One thing I really miss from '04 was the rules in GD :P that encouraged civility. This is getting ridiculous.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #16
100. I wasn't here then
Did this happen before the first week in March when Kerry became the de facto nominee? Why did they switch their avatars to Leiberman? What was that about?
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
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27. Thanks sniffa ... how democratic of you .

So, I guess it's true, huh? HRC supporters aren't just imagining that we're not welcome here.

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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
87. This Obama supporter is happy to see HRC supporters here
We are all democrats, after all. :shrug:

The ones who scream otherwise (from both camps) I've pretty much put on ignore.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #87
102. Thank you, TDR. I think the extremists, on both sides,
have done great damage to BOTH Dem candidates, and have made rational debate an impossibility. Although they are in the minority, they have been able to drown out the majority.

:pals:



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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #102
109. I don't think either candidate benefits from an echo chamber
I've found it interesting to read both sides of the argument when an issue and/or scandal emerges to the forefront. There are folks on both sides that present cogent threads pro or con -- you just have to read past the multitude of "you lie, Hillbot/Obamatron!!11!!!1 n/t" posts to get to them. I've found I can get a lot more red meat from GD-P with a well-endowed ignore list.

Hang tough, Clinton supporter. This Obama supporter has got your back! :pals:
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. Ditto! :o) ... I've never allowed myself to use those ...
candidate-supporter slurs (O-names, Hil-names), even at my most frustrated, and I don't intend to start.

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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
126. I've noticed on a lot of the less trafficked threads...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:48 PM by CitizenLeft
...that there are still a number of fair-minded but loyal Clinton supporters who do not participate in the name-calling and mudslinging (and the same goes for a large number of Obama supporters). You hardly notice them because they're quiet, for the most part, but they'll pop up here and there and contribute something very reasoned and sincere. I hope we don't lose them. I'm sure we all hope we don't lose them.

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
30. You took the words...
...right offa my keyboard! :hi:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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You are correct: one can only HOPE!
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
41. I was going to say that same thing
pretty soon Clinton supporters will be boycotting the entirety of liberal media, from weblogs to air Americ, from Keith Olbermann to Rachel Maddow, to Mike Malloy, and anyone else who is considered anti-Hillary. Everyone, but the self-described idiot from Oklahoma and Taylor Marsh.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
50. Please God, let it be viral
:nuke:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #50
155. lol! n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
60. indicates the turmoil? heh-heh-heh. Maybe among the blogganistas
and the forum rats. Everyone else is having a more normal life and they will vote for whom they like. I doubt that boards and forums and blogs are that important to the rest of the world.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
85. Not if I have anything to do about it /nt
You'll have to ban me to get me to leave.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
96. wouldn't it be nice?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #1
97. Most of the Clinton supporters have already either left DU
or stopped posting.

mainly because of assholes like you.

Hope and Unity!!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #1
98. Does kos have
Ignore features?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
99. This is rather strange behavior, though it is actually kind of funny
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 03:06 PM by karynnj
Rather than add intelligent comments to correct information on HRC or defend her, they are essentially taking their ball away and going home. DKos always has had favorites, but it was and is possible for those favoring people who are not favorites to get our voices in. In some ways, it is likely MORE important to correct what you see as lies or half truths in hostile places. Some readers may still be on the fence - it could be your content that either convinces them or prevents them from buying the content someone else wrote. You win more speaking to people not with you, rather than those who agree 100%.

I suspect that there will be HRC supporters remaining on DKOS.



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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #99
101. When you are in an abusive relationship, the best thing to do is get out.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:17 PM
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103. Please?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
107. I love the comments from the REAL writers from the REAL writers strike
did you see them?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #107
118. I'm reading through the strikers thread
some gems


Huh? Are you saying you'll strike?

Girl please. Are you all so shortsighted that you can't figure this out? No damn wonder she's behind.

If you all strike then there'll be just that much less support here for a Republican-lite cheating, soulless candidate who stretchingly calls herself Democrat.

Me? I've got no problem with your agenda. I think she's bad for this country. But my opinion isn't supposed to count because I'm just some Obama nut who's naive regarding his real abilities.

bla bla bla bla bla.

Oh yeah -- And Geraldine spoke from her heart with no preconceived agenda or concert with HRC... Uh huh.



by busternjake on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:19:39 PM PDT

:rofl:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #1
111. That would be delightful.
:hi:
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #1
116. In a way, that would be good. But in a way, that would be bad too.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:13 PM by Fox Mulder
I think it'll be good because I think HRC should drop out of the race for the sake of the Democratic Party. I'm sick of seeing pro-Hillary stuff here.

I don't think it'll be good because there are so many HRC supporters here who are good people and good Democrats and I don't want to see them go.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
128. Let's hope so - no more Liars for Clinton here would be AWESOME.
NT!

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
136. How did you center that graphic?
In your signature file?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #136
153. You'll have to ask Bi-Baby
She led me through mine. :D
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #153
156. thnx
I figured it out. :hi:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #1
144. No, at least two can.
K and R
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
148. Pretty please with sugar on top?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:19 PM
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2. people who do not support obama are no longer welcome at dailyobama.com nt
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:19 PM
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3. Was the dispute over payola?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. lol winner lol we have a winner lol
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. I think I'll add dkos back to my list of links
But But...the Valhalla under-Bridge-workers Local 151 endorsement is key to HRC's Superdelegate Victory!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #19
53. well actually I don't think the 'strike' will last long
Actually they are still counting on the Fraternal Order of Projecting Every Fucking Little Bitterness to Destroy those guys Hopefest Brigade to keep them alive to Puerto Rico.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. LOL
:thumbsup:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. WIll Kos share his secret?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. Kos had better do something about this
unless he's planning to spend the next four years writing about President McCain.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Maybe he should kiss Hillary's ass, though I wouldn't bet on it.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. Let me guess
You don't care if we have another four years with a Republican in the White House.

You don't care about FISA

You don't care about the Supreme Court

You don't care about health care

You don't care about a recession

You don't care about the increasing gap between the rich and poor

That's right--you just like to puff out your chest and call people names. Well, enjoy life under President McCain!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. tip - don't go on game shows where you have to guess stuff
:rofl:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
Original message
The Weakest Link!!
:D
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #32
39. Are you saying that you do care about the things I listed?
Then why are you alienating the very voters you will need to get these things accomplished?

Why aren't you attacking McCain and the Republicans?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. Because right now we have to beat Hillary and the Republicans, THEN we'll
have to beat McBush and the Republicans. It's simply about the most pressing need at the moment.

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. You are doing everything you can to undermine
your candidate, aren't you?

Just a day or so ago, Obama approached Hillary and suggested that both campaigns try to reign in their supporters.

Do you care if you are doing something Obama asked his supporters not to do?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #49
56. You know I never realized that me sitting here in my drawers, scratching
my kibbles and bits with my left hand and typing with my right would have such a dramatic impact on the American political landscape.

All kidding aside, I didn't know Obama had approached Hillary on this subject. I think he is a really good candidate and I would expect him to always take the high road. Now I would be interested in hearing what Hillary's reply was. What do you think it will be?

But it's a moot point. I have my right to free speech, regardless of what any candidate would say. If my support hurts my candidate, well that's just how the market works.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #56
64. Your words:
"If my support hurts my candidate, well that's just how the market works."

Just think about those poor souls that have had to go to Iraq again and again and again.

That's all I ask of BOTH Hillary and Obama supporters.

Some things are bigger than any one candidate.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #64
147. If it's that important,
...if those posters are all that stands between McLame and the presidency, why aren't you yelling at those posters to quit their whining and get back to do doing whatever it is they're boycotting?

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #56
75. dude
you owe me a keyboard lol
tea blew out my nose
i saw that lil dog from tv singin
kibbles and bits
kibbles and bits
i got to get me some kibbles and bits
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #56
150. ...
:rofl:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
Original message
My guess is those guesses were pretty wrong.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
93. Markos HAS responded...

UPDATE: I asked Kos himself, Markos Moulitsas, what he makes of all this.

His response: "First, these people should read up on the definition of 'strike.' What they're doing is a 'boycott.' But whatever they call it, I think it's great. It's a big Internet, so I hope they find what they're looking for."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/clinton...
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
78. Clint-Off - Apply Directly to the Website.
Clint-Off - Apply Directly to the Website.

Clint-Off - Apply Directly to the Website.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #78
90. ....
:rofl:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #78
115. Haaaa!!!!
:rofl:

I'm totally stealing that. }(
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #78
131. LMFAO!!!!
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:27 PM by Hepburn
:rofl:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #78
145. Hahahaha!
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
9. Did Rash Limpballs call his dittoheads back into the cave for a while?


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
11. It already has
Those remain return for awhile to see the ghost town that once was, now runover by the bullies who continue to attack and distort and lie...only this time with few counter-opinions as the other side left. What is the point?
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
12. They'll be joining the Republican party next
I say good riddance
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #12
22. I think you are really supporting McCain
or else you don't understand politics at all.

If you are really a Democrat, you want a Dem more than you want one of the candidates.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #22
38. Hillary is the one that supports McCain
If she can't steal the nomination, she wants McCain to win so that she gets another shot in 4 years.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #38
52. That's ridiculous
If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, this time, she's done. The same is true for Obama.

Gore didn't get a do-over. Kerry didn't get a do-over. Hillary won't get a do-over. Obama won't get a do-over.
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #52
70. 2000 was Gore's do-over
He ran in 1988, remember? And Obama is young enough to run again in '12 or '16. Less certain for Hillary, but even she might try again.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #22
40. Yeah, have you forgotten? Hillary endorsed McCain
I support a REAL Democrat in Obama.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #40
55. And Obama endorsed
Reagan while dissing Bill Clinton.

Both Obama and Hillary have said good things about Repubs.

Both Obama and Hillary are Dems.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
88. If you are really a Democrat, you don't try to persoannly destroy the frontrunner in the party...
Hillary is no Democrat.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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23. right, cause in a democracy it is your way or the highway...gee
that sounds familar. I believe I heard that alot from Bush and his supporters.

Lovely Upton. So, you don't favor democracy?
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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37. Sounds to me like our way or the highway
is being done by the ones who would boycott Kos.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:42 PM
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45. I know how they feel...attacked at every sentence
personally. It is as if there are attack gnats waiting for one question of Obama or one defense of the outrageous many times sexist attacks on Clinton. The attack gnats are vicious and ugly and constant. What is the point of posting on a "progressive" board that only sees one side and attacks others?

Democracy continues its slide down the porcelain bowl, while "progressives" cheer the loss of 1/2 of the democratic population.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:50 PM
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54. Here we go again
whining and complaining interlaced with the mandatory charges of sexism. You speak of "progressive", in IMO Hillary is anything but.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 PM
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58. There are good reasons for not wanting Hillary to be our
candidate.

But both Hillary and Obama are progressives.

You will hear the L word (liberal) over and over and over in Repub commercials whichever wins the nomination.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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63. My opinion isn't formed by viewing
Republican commercials. I don't consider Hillary to be a true Liberal.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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65. Well, have you looked at her record objectively?
Those groups who rate Senators say she is a liberal. So is Obama. McCain is a conservative.

Or do you care to be objective?

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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117. I look at her record...
and there are things that disturb me, but that has nothing to do with why I can not support her. In my mind she has aligned herself with Joe Lieberman through the words and actions she has chosen to avail herself of in this campaign. The deep division in the Democratic Party did not come from the bottom up, but from the top down. It did not have to be this way.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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62. thanks
proved my point.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #62
66. You're welcome
you've been officially attacked by another one of those mean sexist Obama bullies. Rough isn't it?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:25 PM
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18. More "take the ball and go home" attitude from Hillary's supporters.
Some threaten to withhold contributions to the party. Some bolt from posting in netroots enclaves. Whimps.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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24. "Whimps."----some of us just don't like the BULLY tacktics from some Obamafans.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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36. maybe you should go over there and show them how to do it
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:46 PM
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48. Thank you for your concern.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:33 PM
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82. they need you
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:49 PM
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94. Thank you for your concern
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:27 PM
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21. Didn't last long... Scabs are already back to blogging.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:29 PM
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25. Alegre is a hypocrite
Getting pissy because she dishes it out hard toward Obama but can't take the heat when Clinton is attacked.

Take a look at some of her diary entries:

http://alegre.dailykos.com /

She's behaving like a spoiled brat.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:43 PM
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92. That seems to be a widely heald opinion
allegre's postings at MyDD... (19+ / 0-)

...are anti-Obama screeds that go well past how any Democrat should deal with another Democrat. her posts are so partisan in their mischaracterizations in favor of hillary, they verge on outright lies. her writings this primary season are a real dissapointment from someone who i have no doubt is a fine lady. in her support of hillary, however, she is nothing more than a partisan hack/attack dog.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:35 PM
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106. That was my immediate impression. Attention grabbing. nt
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
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26. Does anyone really care?
Frankly, I don't think it's going to make one iota of difference to most Americans.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:31 PM
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29. In related news, the National Review, Wall Street Journal,
and other wingnut publications have been popular sources for the Clinton supporters at DU.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:32 PM
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31. Good, mommy make them go away!! n/t
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
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33. General post to thread. Your intolerance and hate sickens me. nt.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
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34. I wonder if they thought that through...
Decreasing advocacy of your candidate doesn't seem like a very bright idea to me.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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35. Bullying other Democrats right out of the party isn't smart, and sure isn't "uniting"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 PM
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51. Bingo
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 PM
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42. Wow ... just WOW, at the arrogant vitriol in this thread.

:cry:

***CAUTION*** ... Hatred is a cancer that kills the host from the inside out.




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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:40 PM
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44. Kos himself is pro-Obama -- and routinely disparages Hillary
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:46 PM by DemGa
I quit going there when I saw how vile the Hillary-hate -- and the foolish rants of "Kos."

No surprise also, that Keith Olbermann is a regular poster at Daily Kos.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 PM
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46. ****Breaking News****** Liberal Left Sites throw out all who don't Support Obama*****
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 PM by KoKo01
whether they are Clinton supporters or those who just don't know what the heck to do because they don't support either of them right now. Also remember folks who haven't had a chance to vote in the Primaries yet who are still trying to make up their minds!

I don't have a "flashing red light." :-(
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 PM
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57. No, they chose to leave...no one threw them out.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:10 PM
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69. you're correct....I was just letting off steam being snarky...n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:14 PM
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71. I wouldn't know about such things as snark.
:P

:hi:
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:44 PM
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47. You mean the Royalists have stormed out because we dare not support Her Highness!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:53 PM
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59. They should be fighters like Hillary.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:55 PM
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61. actually, its become a pathetic joke
and makes me want to post there more.

It would take alot of "strikers" to make it a little easier for some of us to keep
our "diaries" alive through the day.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 PM
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67. Reading the responses to this thread
I'd never believe that Obama is for unity. All I see is "Hillary supporters leave".

I feel like I am the enemy even though I am a lifelong democrat. What a bunch of shit this place has turned into this year. Hate all day long. It rots your brain.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:19 PM
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74. Look, the "hillary supporters" here post vile, racist, demeaning attacks day after
day after day . I think most of them are probably headed to McCain and I think Hillary is colluding with him.

Yes, I want them to leave. It has nothing to do with Obama's message of Unity. We wouldn't open the door to Free Republic, why does DU allow them to foment hate here? No one posting anything about Obama is free from personal attack, no one. You can't reach out to them, because they lie and distort, just like Hillary does.

I'm not sorry for feeling this way.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #74
76. about 10 ringleaders
and countless newbies here to high-five the racist shit.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. That's exactly what I counted the other day.. about 10 to 12 people who
seem to be here 24/7, on every thread, posting the same garbage constantly. And then the minions chime in.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:31 PM
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81. I honestly beleive that most are poseurs
I have respect for most of the HRC posters who are not posting "I'm concerned" "Obama is Done!!" and other hyperbolic racist proclamations, demanding that Obama and his family undergo "Forced Conversion"

The democrats among HRC's supporters will back the nominee. The rest can go back to FR.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #74
80. you conveniently don't see the vile shit posted about Hillary
and her supporters day after day. How convenient.

I'm a Hillary supporter and I honestly feel so fucking hated for doing nothing but supporting Hillary. I don't post vile shit day after day. I barely post at all. But all I hear is how Hillary supporters cannot be democrats, no democrat would support Hillary. Blah, blah, blah. Get the fuck out of the party horrible Hillary supporter. I was undecided between the two for a long time and then leaned Hillary but would have been thrilled with either one. Now I feel like what is the point? Apparently I can't be a democrat and support her so why waste my time voting at all in November?

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:04 PM
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68. And in a breaking update Striking Writers at Kos
Writers have posted more than 1000 supportive comments writing in great passion how they will not be posting anymore on DailyKos

Uh now its 1100

1200

Just when does the strike actually go into effect?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:15 PM
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72. Oh god, PLEASE let this happen at DU !! Strike Hillary supporters, strike !!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:29 PM
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79. then you could entertain yourself with the sound of one hand clapping.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:16 PM
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73. I hope this spreads. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:33 PM
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83. That's a boycott, not a strike.
.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:40 PM
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89. That's what Kos told them
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:33 PM
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84. I'm a little Hitler
Ive noticed this tendency among progressive bloggers as well myself. Theyre increasingly rude. It seems that they have decided that Republicans and the Clintons are the enemy. Thats also one of the reasons that I think that Obamas movement is more about personality and is more liberal, than many moderates think and want to believe. These progressives are turning into little Hitlers for Obama.

Alegre is also angry because he noticed that Markos et al. dont do anything to force progressive Obama supporters to behave like adults. Instead, Markos has become increasingly anti-Clinton and pro-Obama himself, Alegre writes. Daily Kos isnt a progressive community anymore, its a pro-Obama community.
And how does Markos react to the strike? Thats right, by showing that hes in reality one arrogant son of a gun: First, these people should read up on the definition of strike. What theyre doing is a boycott. But whatever they call it, I think its great. Its a big Internet, so I hope they find what theyre looking for.

http://poligazette.com/2008/03/15/clinton-democrats-hav...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:51 PM
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95. Sure sounds like they are describing gd-p.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:59 PM
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113. Yeah, just look at all the "we hate Hillary threads" - they don't exist here.
How many threads about Wright were started here in the last 2 days?
How many threads about Rezko were started here in the last 2 weeks?
How many threads sounding like Sean Hannity's program have been started here in the last month?

When Hillary's supporters get their "talking points" from Hannity, they are no longer doing the work of the Democratic party - they are aiding McCain.

And if Hillary doesn't drop out before May 1st, the DU May Day Peace Picnic may have to be cancelled!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:59 PM
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122. Talking points from Hannity
I've noticed that. It's embarassingly uncanny.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:39 PM
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125. and they have take a tough and principled stand for it - everyone admires them for striking
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 PM
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86. Cue the organ solo

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #86
114. Lol on the sign-age. nt
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:10 PM
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124. ...
:spray:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:13 PM
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129. Martyrs for Hillary...
They have such awful crosses to bear!

:rofl:
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:43 PM
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91. Markos: It's a big Interent...
UPDATE: I asked Kos himself, Markos Moulitsas, what he makes of all this.

His response: "First, these people should read up on the definition of 'strike.' What they're doing is a 'boycott.' But whatever they call it, I think it's great. It's a big Internet, so I hope they find what they're looking for."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/clinton...
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
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104. I'm taking my toys and going home! WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
You won't let my candidate cheat and lie!!!! WAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!







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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:41 PM
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108. I guess they realized you can only post Rezko so many times.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:55 PM
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112. Kos has become embarrasingly partial. I dont blame them.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:10 AM
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142. maybe you should go over there and show them how to fight the good fight
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:12 PM
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119. kos, told the whole damn world it was the clinton campaign that
doctored the photo of obama to make him appear "darker"...upon further examination of the photos, the one photo obama smiles but in the second one, obama has teeth showing.....why do they have to doctor a photo and claim that hrc is a racist?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:30 PM
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121. Kos blos
anyway.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:10 PM
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127. So exactly what are they missing at Kos with alegre
Well one of her most recent posts challenging the attacks against Hillary on inflating her credentials on Ireland was the fact that she appeared in a picture (not kidding) here it is




For anyone who might doubt Hillary's connection to Northern Ireland, take a look at this recent picture of her with two of the particpants in those peace talks in the mid-90s, (Big) Ian (blood & thunder) Paisley (DUP), and Martin McGuinnes(Sinn Fein). They used to hate each other (hell maybe they still do) but are now serviing as the top two members of the Belfast government. They came over to DC on a trip to promote investment in Northern Ireland and stopped by to visit their old friend, Hillary.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/10/233439/265/973/...


In her expanded blog it then contained feet of press releases from Hillary Hub and then she was roundly criticized for her superficial post, but not in a very harsh way at all.

I honestly don't think she would have lasted at DU very long her skin isn't thick enough and her posts weren't original or substantive enough. Most of vigorous Hill devotees show more substance and stronger resiliancy than 'alegre'
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #127
130. John Kerry just made a "neener, neener, neener" post at Kos.
Kidding.

LoL
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:19 PM
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132. got me though lol
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:24 PM
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133. Again, to them I say...
good luck in your new locations.

Duke
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:27 PM
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134. Awesome! Wish they would leave here too. I'm sick of scrolling through
their hate-filled posts about Wright and Rezko.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:28 PM
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135. I would describe it more as a tantrum
doesn't really raise to the level of a strike.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #135
138. Well it did cause me to go back and look at her other posts
which definitely would be termed as a tantrum
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 PM
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137. Interesting. Obama people here use Ignore, Clinton people there don't post.
Both pointless exercises.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:56 PM
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139. Thank God. A place without whining!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:08 AM
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140. actually I don't think the idiot who was posting at Kos who started the strike could
actually survive here.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:10 AM
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141. sounds sexist to me.. or maybe racist..or maybe just toddleresque
:rofl:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:09 PM
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154. Toddleresque...... lol!!

:hi: :rofl:

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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:20 AM
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143. I didn't know dailykos was THAT big of a deal...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:39 PM
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146. I don't think a strike is a good idea
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:19 PM
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149. they seem to have all come here
since leaving Kos.

Still in their parent's basements, though.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:57 PM
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151. Who gives a Fuck?
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 07:00 PM by spokane
I don't, if they can't stand having civil discuss about their candidate maybe they should
be posting somewhere else, like freeper land, they seem to be picking information from newsmax,
new republic and faux news, so fuck em.......enough of this crap of forcing issues down
peoples throat even when they disagree with their distorted info.

We see the same thing here, where people ignore you just because they either disagree or
refused to see your point. Why would the media gets involved beats me, what, they think by
inviting the media thats going to change all the crap they've been spewing.

Kos should bloody ban them, prevent them from writing on dailykos, I have read most of their posts
on that list and majority of them writes inflammatory threads.

The Clinton's are attacking everything Liberals, makes you wonder does she really care
for the people and issues or just her selfish ego?


:wtf: :argh:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:58 PM
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152. I've been offline, and am sickened to come back to responses in this thread.
Although I voted for Obama in my primary, and am a maxed-out contributor to his campaign, I am one of the millions of Dems in the real world who admire both him and Senator Clinton. I know vitriol here goes both ways, but Clinton supporters are outnumbered at DU. And now we have in this thread stated opinions that they should just shut up and leave.

So shall we just call it, as some of the Hillary supporters suggest, Obama Underground? Or how about those who only want to hear from other Obama supporters going over to Barack's website?

I miss DU. Yes, I was here in '04 -- and I never thought during that period of strife that the DU I've known for all these years might be gone forever.

For the record, I have no desire to be here if all of our party is not welcome.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:39 PM
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157. Kos is dead to me!!!!!!!! Just like Olbermann and Ted Kennedy!!!!!!!!!
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