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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:02 PM
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Thank You, Hillary
When I heard that the Clintons were going to go after Obama on Rezko/Wright in a 12:15PM conference call on Time's The Page, I assumed that they'd go after the Wright flap, but according to a news summary on The Page just now, they only talked about Rezko.

Clintons Mark Penn and Phil Singer hold Saturday afternoon conference call calling out Obama on Rezko, requesting he release all documentation on transactions.

Both pass up opportunity to criticize him on Rev. Wright issue when repeatedly asked by reporters.


http://thepage.time.com /

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:03 PM
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1. Good judgement.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:03 PM
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2. Yeah, even Penn knows he shouldn't go there...
Surprising though.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:06 PM
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9. I think it's b/c they know story's so explosive that they don't have to add to it
That's my take on it.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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14. You're probably correct about that. So far, I think Obama is
making the right moves. Only time will tell.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:17 PM
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41. Why should they go there? Obama is putting this show on himself. Just stand back and watch
when your opponent is stuck and trying to extricate himself from a nightmare.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:03 PM
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3. I love how they are pushing a 'scandal' involving land dealings..hm..the Clintons have no experienc
e with that... :rofl:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM
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19. Umm. You do know that they were cleared of any wrongdoing don't you?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM
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26. You do know there is nothing wrong with what Obama has done and he isn't under investigation?
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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33. You are correct. The Clintons have absolutely NO connection to scandalous land deals.
True, they were the object of a ten-year, 100 million dollar right-wing ATTEMPT to connect them to a scandalous land deal, but they were found to be completely innocent of any and all misdeeds by not one, but FOUR, investigations!

Meanwhile, we have hardly scratched the surface of Obama's dealings with Rezko. It is possible that Obama will turn out to have been as honest and ethical as the Clintons are, but we'll never know if Obama is as clean as Clinton until he has been investigated as much as she has.

That's only fair. And since it's only fair, I imagine Obama's supporters will have a problem with it.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:04 PM
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4. I have to say, thank you.
I think they're trying to salvage the AA vote if they manage to steal the convention.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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5. Nice move... Clinton is not a stupid politician.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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6. he knows the dirty work has been done
What more does Clinton have to do? Her fundraiser Murdoch is already saturating the media with it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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7. Has Clinton released her tax returns?
Maybe Obama can release his Rezko documentation when she releases her tax returns.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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April 15th. That's the next page on your calendar...This is March 15th.
:hi:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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13. 2006 tax returns were filed last year
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:09 PM by high density
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:10 PM
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17. She said they'd be released April 15th. That's next month
no matter how ya look at the calendar.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM
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18. What's special about April 15? The 2006 tax returns are available right now
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM by high density
Otherwise I guess Obama can wait until April 15 to release his Rezko documentation
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:14 PM
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23. Ask her.
:hi:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:15 PM
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24. Very useful post
Thanks.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:13 PM
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21. why are they waiting until then to release the returns from 2000-2006?
They have nothing to do with this year's filing.

Perhaps, they actually don't want to give the people of PA a chance to find out what is in them?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:32 PM
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34. If they were worried about what was in them, they'd do it after PA.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:56 PM
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37. Chances are they will find a reason to delay releasing them another week after 4/15,
since they've managed to keep them from seeing daylight since 2000.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:57 PM
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49. they only been able to wait this long by using Tax Time as their excuse
They won't be able to do that after April 15.

You are not going to like what comes out of those returns. Hillary's plan was to have the nomination sewed up by now so that the returns wouldn't come into play.
That didn't work out, and now the bright light is about to shine down on those dark secrets.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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28. SPAM every single thread gets 2-3 hits this issue
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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8. They said on one of the news shows last night that the Clinton campaign
had refused to comment on Rev Wright.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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10. I'm Quite Thankful For That. I Would've Been Extremely Disappointed If They Tried To Go For The
throat on that, and I'm proud of them for having not done so.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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12. that's the only sign of class they've shown, I have to say
If they'd showed more class especially during South Carolina, the CBS interview, and the debate with the Farrakhan thing, I'd have felt easier about voting Hillary in GE.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:09 PM
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16. Funny how such a tiny shred of decency generates such a big sigh of relief from Democrats
Another indication of how ridiculous this campaign has become.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM
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20. Dude, if Hillary rescued you from a burning building
you'd cough out, "when are you releasing your tax returns, bitch?"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:14 PM
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22. I'm an Obama supporter (w/ all respest to jgraz) but...
I lol'ed :rofl:
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM
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25. DUUUUUUUUUZY!!

:spray:

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:22 PM
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29. Thats pretty funny.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
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30. You had me up to "bitch"
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:24 PM by jgraz
Hey, I like a good joke as much as the next guy... but you know full well that I've been one of the strongest advocates on this board to cut the use of the kind of sexist language you attribute to me.

Since I know your next move is to cry "link?", here's one of many.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


So tell me, ruggy, how would you feel if I jokingly attributed a quote to you where you refer to Obama as "boy"? Would that be within the bounds of good humor?


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:34 PM
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35. ok, I apologize for "bitch"
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM by ruggerson
You don't even have to link anything, I know you're very attuned to those issues. And you're obsessed with animals, so I know you're a good guy.

But, it still worked better with "bitch." :)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:59 PM
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43. thanks
and yeah, it was pretty funny :D

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:11 PM
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38. Not really funny or fair.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:15 PM by Forkboy
Jgraz has consistently spoken out against that kind of language. It's like accusing you of using the word "fag".

On Edit - just saw your apology. Thank you! That's one of the reasons you're a good guy here. :thumbsup:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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11. Sorry to sound a discordant note, but does anyone believe they won't try to use this?
Politico reports today that Obama's "opponents" have been pushing the story for months. It's looking more and more like Obama punked them by getting the story out at a time when he could control it.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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32. Yeah really...
they've got nothing left..they've been on the rinse and repeat cycle since Iowa. BLACK_BARACK_MUSLIM_BLACK_REZKO_BLACK_HUSSEIN_BLACK_OSAMA_BLACK_PREACHER_BLACK_OBAMA
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:09 PM
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15. Thank you for pointing this out
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:20 PM
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27. Teach you all---that post was nothing but lies and speculation.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:17 PM
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42. " Obama Admits Repeated Poor Judgment With Rezko" Chicago Tribune
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:21 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:23 PM
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31. Class or political intelligence?
I doubt they'd pass up the opportunity if they believed it advantageous to them. I'm not sure "class" is how it'd describe it.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:36 PM
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36. She's letting the behind-the-scenes people get their hands dirty
So she can appear to be staying above the fray. This is the same shit Nixon pulled.

Just like we never heard Dumbya himself mention the Swift Boat scandal in '04.

Don't you people know anything about politics?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:14 PM
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45. I agree! NT
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:13 PM
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39. One trouble the Clinton campaign has is they have very few issues against Obama...
..that can't be turned back on them. I suspect it's why McCain didn't touch the issue much either.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:14 PM
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40. Smart move. This is not Hillary's mess to clean up
.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:01 PM
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44. yes, it was. i see Penn got asked twice about Wright. Hope he continues to shut up
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:34 PM
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46. Chicago Tribune indicates that it's satisfied with Obama's
account of Rezko..

jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
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Chicago Tribune indicates that it's satisfied with Obama's account of Rezko."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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IdClaire Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:39 PM
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47. they don't need to say anything...
and they are smart not to. This is his problem to deal with.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:52 PM
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48. I think they're just trying to keep themselves in the picture. If the
Chicago Trib is satisfied with Obama on the Rezko issue(poster up a bit) they're just trying to look relevant and not have to pay for advertising. As for not touching Wright....would they dare?

Frankly, I wonder if Obama hasn't done himself some harm by denouncing Wright's words. What I've heard of the sermon I can't say I disagree...not a pretty picture but there's truth in it. I suppose I'll be flamed but remember this is just my humble opinion.
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