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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:58 AM
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Fox news is overdoing the pastor coverage
They have been in a full attack mode since yesterday. They keep showing the clips of pastor's speeches any chance they get. Even before they do show a response by Obama they play more of their clips.

Fox news was the media outlet that started pushing this story very hard. I found the interview that one of their reporters had with Obama last night somewhat insulting. The way and the tone of those questions..

You can not talk to a senator and the front runner of this democratic race like that.

What's sad is that some on DU are jumping on the same bandwagon trying to hurt Obama.

If Obama does not win the nomination because of this shameless smear campaign, you can bet your ass that most blacks will not bother to show up and vote for Hillary.

Now go ahead and run the board with your shit.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 PM
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1. They have barely started.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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3. They cant do more than what they are already doing.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 PM
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They don't have anything else.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 PM
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6. Are we supposed to be afraid of fox news now?
Give me a break.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:28 PM
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22. If we're smart, that means we've barely started on McCain's questionable religious figures
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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2. Murdoch hosted a campaign fund raiser for Hillary Clinton
so why is this a surprise?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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4. She's the neocon's democrat.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 PM
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7. inadvertent post
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 PM by IrishBloodEngHeart
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 PM
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12. And his NY Post endorsed Obama.
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Monty__ Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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5. Fox News and overdoing
Umm...last time I checked you couldn't have one without the other
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 PM
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8. good. let people get used to hearing it, outrage fatigue on this is better now than in October
after awhile it loses its shock value, they will need something worse to show to get a reaction, just ask Howard Stern
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:11 PM
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13. Or Don Imus
I doubt it'll be enough to sink Obama from getting the nomination, and the story may be "peaking" too early to have as large of an effect as it would if it came out after august, will it be enough to sink obama in the GE? We'll find out, and I certainly hope not
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 PM
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9. And, isn't it interesting that they didn't bother to dig this deep into an actual Presidential
candidate's own sermons, who made his living as a preacher, namely Huckabee? How many wonderful gems do you think you could find in his material?

:dem:
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:07 PM
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10. Yeah, and which Democratic candidate's camp...
...has been cozying up to FOX of late?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:08 PM
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11. This IS a good point, IF, and only if:
1. Obama supporters do EVERYTHING they can do to counter-act Fox (instead of counting coup on Hillary).
2. The Democratic Party does LESS than everything it CAN do to counter Fox.

And FYI, I am thinking about "do" in very creative terms here, so as to encompass EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that is possibly constructive in effect on the ISSUES.

If conditions 1. and 2. ARE met, I can understand how people might not chose to support a candidate just on the Party's say so.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:11 PM
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14. Meanwhile, no comment from FAUX on Pat Robertson
Who strongly supported a dictator that endorsed... cannabalism:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

No, I'm not making this shit up.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 PM
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17. Agree that Dems should turn focus back
on ridiculous statements by McCain supporters.

Dems lose if we start focusing on other Dems; we should aim at McCain's flaws.

Fox just wants McCain to be president because McCain will protect their corporate interests.

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:15 PM
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15. Better now than later
Of course, this coverage is playing the fear-of-blacks card, and a lot of whites will bite, but hopefully not in blue states and not enough of them in swing states.

This coverage confirms the fears that some whites have of ALL DEMOCRATS. It gives them reason to vote for McCain.

This isn't about Obama vs Hillary.

It's about corporations keeping their power by making McCain president.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 PM
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16. heaven forbid a shameless smear campaign should be aimed at Obama
they are everywhere, aimed at everyone. Whitewater, Swiftboat, travelgate, Hoover's attempts to smear MLK, and on and on.

the Major Garrett "interview" (cross examination) of Obama was an abomination. Obama handled it brilliantly.

Why do you insist on adding to the fray? Your remarks encourage the type of remarks Ferraro made. You WANT to turn up the noise?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 PM
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18. Isn't this what Faux News Does?
I mean...is there anything else they do? Fuck Fox Noise!!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:21 PM
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19. Black Christians! The Enemy Within!
Remind you of anything?


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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:24 PM
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20. I disagree with this:
"You can not talk to a senator and the front runner of this democratic race like that."

Why not? Would you censor or impose restrictions if they did that to a repuke cadidate? I don't believe in restraining the press. (even though FUX barely meets the criteria)

I just want the "real" networks to ask aggressive questions to EVERYONE. It is supposed to be their job!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:26 PM
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21. MSNBC & CNN have been playing it all morning as well
I swear I am sick of seeing this man scream GD America

I hope it isn't playing Sunday morning too


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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:35 PM
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23. Folks, this is a soft rain compared to the storm that is coming.
Hillary's supporters are used to this level of diatribe from the MSM. Non-stop Clinton-bashing is what several cable news networks built their viewership on.

But this kind of coverage probably seems a little cruel and unfair to BO supporters who, until now, have never had to face what Clinton has had to face every day for nearly 20 years.

The campaign will be conducted on THIS kind of issue at THIS kind of decibel level from now until November. Hillary has always known that and has always been prepared for it.

Obmama's supporters who think THIS level of coverage is unfair had better toughen up quick. Because it is going to get much, much worse, and you won't be able to squelch the bad news anymore by pointing fingers at Hillary.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:47 PM
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24. If you cannot recognize this is straight from the Right.,
and it is not going away. Sean Hannity has spent months
researching and laying the groundwork for this story.

Newsmaz, (Kessler, has spent months on this story)

This is the Right smearing the Left. This is a tool the
Rwers will use in the GE.

You have to remember thato to the Right, critixising America
is next to treason. When they speak of the America Haters and
and Hate American Crowd, they view the left just this way.
They believe this can be a rallying tool.

I am not saying this is the right thing for them to do. I am
trying to explain how they operate and think.

This benefits no one in our party --not even Hillary.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:57 PM
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25. and on that you are correct
they paint all non-extreme-right people as demons. The whole "why do you hate America" thing. They paint anyone who smacks of being progressive as eating babies for breakfast. They will happily lump this, Lewis Farrakhan, and Hillary's decorating the Christmas tree with colored condoms (you had not heard that one?) with communist-loving, bedwetting, public masturbation, and whatever else they can think of. The rumor that Jews eat male babies' foreskins will probably be resurrected (you had not heard that one?).

This will server to add to their vitriol. There will be a cadre of knuckledraggers who buy it all, hook, line and sinker. The default to muckain as a kindly grandfather (remember raygun) is coming.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:58 PM
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26. Rev. Wright is Fox News' new Natalee Holloway.
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