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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:43 AM
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**** Breaking - Results of Today's Iowa County Conventions**** Thread -post updates here
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:52 AM by grantcart


From DemcomWatch
Teams of paid and volunteer workers have spent weeks contacting the 13,485 delegates elected on caucus night. In some cases, they are trying to sway those who supported former Sen. John Edwards, who quit the race Jan. 30.
...
Those 13,485 delegates will elect 2,500 delegates Saturday. Those 2,500 will elect some of the national convention delegates during Iowa's district conventions on April 26 and the rest at the state convention on June 14.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com /



List of Iowa Counties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_in_Iowa


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120554271671438493.html...

Democrats Head Back to Iowa
Clinton, Obama Teams
Aim to Secure Support,
Grab Dropouts' Backers
By JUNE KRONHOLZ
March 15, 2008

The next stop on the Democrats' political calendar is Iowa -- again.

The primaries and caucuses that allocated convention delegates to Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are winding down. But the campaign to elect people to fill those delegate seats is just beginning, and once more, the race is hottest in Iowa where 14 delegate votes that would have gone to former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards at this summer's national convention are up for grabs, and even those claimed by Sens. Obama and Clinton aren't entirely secure.


With only about 100 delegates separating the two rivals, there is a new focus on 99 county conventions that will be held Saturday in Iowa, as well as hundreds of other local conventions around the country. Colorado's county conventions run from Feb. 20 through next week, for example. Wisconsin's will be April 6. California, like some states, skips the county conventions and, on April 13, heads straight into congressional-district conventions. And in Texas, which is still tabulating the caucus results from its two-step caucus-and-primary balloting on March 4, county conventions are scheduled for March 29.




The Iowa caucuses are an electoral event in which residents of the U.S. state of Iowa meet in precinct caucuses in all of Iowa's 1784 precincts and elect delegates to the corresponding county conventions. There are 99 counties in Iowa and thus 99 conventions. These county conventions then select delegates for both Iowa's Congressional District Convention and the State Convention, which eventually choose the delegates for the presidential nominating conventions (the national conventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses


From DemcomWatch


Iowa County Conventions on Saturday
As we've been writing ever since John Edwards dropped out of the race, his 14 estimated national delegates are up-for-grabs at the Iowa County Conventions this Saturday:

Iowa, which first voted on Jan. 3, holds county conventions this weekend in familiar locales the candidates remember well, like Des Moines.
...
Most years, the complexities of party caucuses don't generate much interest after the campaigns have moved on. "This year, they will be fighting over every delegate," said Norm Sterzenbach, political director of the Iowa Democratic Party.
...
In Iowa, precinct caucuses were held Jan. 3 to select delegates to county conventions this weekend. The county conventions will select delegates to congressional district conventions in April and the state convention in June.

National delegates are elected at the congressional district and state conventions the third step of the process. If all the delegates for each candidate show up at every step, the national delegates awarded Jan. 3 will remain unchanged.

There are 29 national delegates chosen at the Congressional District conventions, and 16 national delegates chosen at the State convention. Edwards currently has 9 estimated delegates at the CD level, and 5 at the state level. (Green Papers)

We'll repeat what we wrote on Tuesday:
Edwards now has about 30% of the total delegates to the county conventions. But remember, a candidate must achieve the 15% threshold at every level.So Edwards needs 15% at any County Convention to put county delegates through to the next round. The conventional assumption was that he wouldn't get it in enough counties to achieve 15%. But will that be the case? One Edwards county leader,

Update: Edwards co-chairs have asked all Edward's delegates to stay with Edwards on Saturday.

Posted by Matt at 11:58 PM


http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do ;jsessionid=0C551D27909A062CF9F53E8691E006B4?diaryId=2096
Hottest Iowa Commodity? Edwards Delegates
by: Lynda Waddington
Friday (03/14) at 12:26 PM

Although there might not be a big rally planned for tonight or any former presidents walking down Main Street, the Hawkeye State has once again become a hotbed of national Democratic political activity.

Lynda Waddington :: Hottest Iowa Commodity? Edwards Delegates
Tomorrow is the day of Democratic county conventions. While these take place for both Republicans and Democrats throughout the state after every Iowa caucus, most activists cannot remember a time when the results of the conventions could play such an important national role. The caucuses, while highly publicized as the first national pulse in presidential politics, are not the actual mechanism by which delegates to the Democratic National Convention are selected. The selection will take place at the upcoming conventions -- county conventions scheduled for Saturday being the first.

Individuals selected on caucus night to be delegates and alternates to county convention are being targeted once again by presidential hopefuls. Delegates receiving the most attention, however, are those who are currently aligned with former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards. Because no delegates are beholden to their caucus night choice and also because Edwards has dropped from the race, the campaigns for New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama are both focusing on Edwards delegates in an attempt to increase their own number of national delegates.





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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:44 AM
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1. one of our wonderful Sparkles will be liveblogging today from the convention!
lsparkle maybe?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:45 AM
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2. do you have a link?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:55 AM
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6. it is TwoSparkles - here:
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:55 AM by FLDem5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

you should PM her, maybe you two can hook up in one thread, so no one has to waste a thread.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:45 PM
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27. That would be our wonderful
Two Sparkles, FLDem :)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:47 AM
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3. Go John Go!
Oh, wait.

k/r
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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7. Actually the Iowa Edwards folk are trying to maintian their delegation to the convention
The problem is that a candidate has to keep 15% at each level to maintian viability -
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 PM
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13. I was only an alternate but I think my delegates are going to fight for him!
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:52 AM
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4. Interesting... so with Resko and Pastor Wright... Obama could end up losing Iowa?
Ironic.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:55 AM
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5. Iowa's voters have been keeping a close watch on the campaign - Clinton support plummets


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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 PM
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14. That looks like "electability" to me!
Thanks grantcart! Rec'd.

:thumbsup:
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:25 PM
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18. Old polls, my statement addressed more current issues not taken into acct... HAWTALTA
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:49 PM
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28. Feb. 26th data?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:00 PM
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46. yes, old. doesnt include pastor or new rezko stuff. he dropped 15pts in Rassmusen in one day.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:22 PM
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57. That's in a national poll. 15 point swings aren't excactly uncommon
The national polls for democratic primaries are pretty meaningless. And yes, there's never been a time during this entire election season where I haven't said that - whether Obama was up or down.

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 PM
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10. Actually, if you took time to look at some polls....
...you would see he is pulling ahead of your queen. I guess a lot of people have been turned off by her dirty campaign tricks.

Oh, duh....... :eyes:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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12. Doubt it.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 PM
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16. Doubt what?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:36 PM
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25. Doubt that Obama would lose delegates in IA
It's hard to predict how the Rezko thing will play out but the Wright thing is just a minor annoyance. IMHO, If anything, his delegate count will rise.

During the caucus most of the Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Kuchinich supporters went to Obama and Edwards. That's where the energy was. Only a couple went to the Clinton camp.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:08 PM
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33. Thanks for the clarification...did not know what you meant! n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:59 AM
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8. Gobamaaaaaa!!!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 PM
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9. what time does the convention begin?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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11. There are 99 different county conventions
If you go to the Obama link and click on each county you can get the details for that county

Some have already started. some start mid day.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 PM
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15. thanks.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:22 PM
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17. np
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:26 PM
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19. K and R
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:37 PM
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20. Thanks for posting
Appreciate the updates
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM
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21. Trying to find a link for Iowa updates, All I got on google was this idiot:
**** Breaking - Results of Today's Iowa County Conventions ...
There are 99 counties in Iowa and thus 99 conventions. These county conventions then select delegates for both Iowa's Congressional District Convention and ...
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=vi... - 44 minutes ago - Similar pages
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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22. Kick
:kick:

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
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23. and Texas was supposed to be complicated
this makes Texas a cake walk!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:59 PM
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24. complicated - you want complilcated? - you got complicated lol
Here are 69 pages of detailed explanation of the process. By the way Iowa is finished June 15th lol


http://www.iowademocrats.org/ht/a/GetDocumentAction/i/1...

Here are some excerpts from the 69 pages of explanation of how Iowa selects its delegates.


Four (4) viable preference groups form in a caucus that elects nine (9) delegates.
Group A has 25 members, Group B has 16 members, Group C has 13 members,
and Group D has 11 members. The calculation to apportion the nine (9)
delegates is as follows:
Group A (25 X 9) / 65 = 3.46 or 3 round down
Group B (16 X 9) / 65 = 2.21 or 2 round down
Group C (13 X 9) / 65 = 1.8 or 2 round up
Group D (11 X 9) / 65 = 1.52 or 2 round up
Total 9 Delegates
Example Two
Three (3) viable groups form in a caucus of 17 people that elects three (3)
delegates. Group A has 10 members, Group B has 4 members, and Group C has
3 members. All groups are viable (17 / 6 = 2.8333 rounded up to 3).
The calculations to apportion the delegates are as follows:
Group A (10 X 3) / 17 = 1.76 or 2
Group B (4 X 3) / 17 = .71 or 1
Group C (3 X 3) / 17 = .53 or 1
Total 4 Delegates*


1. Iowa has a total of 567 delegates and 8 alternates. (Call, I. & Appendix B.)
2. The delegate selection process is governed by the Charter and Bylaws of the
Democratic Party of the United States, the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2008
Democratic National Convention (Rules), the Call for the 2008 Democratic
National Convention (Call), the Regulations of the Rules and Bylaws Committee
for the 2008 Democratic National Convention (Regs.), the rules of the
Democratic Party of Iowa, the Iowa election code, and this Delegate Selection
Plan. (Call, II.A.)
3. Following the adoption of this Delegate Selection Plan by the State Party
Committee, it shall be submitted for review and approval by the DNC Rules and
Bylaws Committee (RBC). The State Party Chair shall be empowered to make
any technical revisions to this document as required by the RBC to correct any
omissions and/or deficiencies as found by the RBC to ensure its full compliance
with Party Rules. Such corrections shall be made by the State Party Chair and the
Plan resubmitted to the RBC within 30 days of receipt of notice of the RBCs
findings. (Regs. 2.5, 2.6 & 2.7)
4. Once this Plan has been found in Compliance by the RBC, any amendment to the
Plan by the State Party will be submitted to and approved by the RBC before it
becomes effective. (Reg. 2.9)


The district-level delegates and alternates are apportioned to
districts as indicated in the following chart:
Delegates Alternates
District Males
Females Total Males
Females Total
#1 3 3 6 0 1 1
#2 4 3 7 1 0 1
#3 3 3 6 1 0 1
#4 3 3 6 0 1 1
#5 2 2 4 1 0 1
Total 15 14 29 3 2 5


Total Voting
Age
Population
Over 18
Total
Democratic
Voting
Population
Over 18
Total
Registered
Democrats
(570,449)
National
Delegation
Size (64)
Iowas
Suggested
Affirmative
Action Goals
for 2008
Convention
African
Americans
39254 34936 .061 3.91 4
Hispanic 49746 34325 .060 3.85 4
American
Indians
5276 4860 .009 .545 1
Asian/Pacific
Americans
26126 20640 .036 2.32 2
People with
Disabilities
--- --- --- --- 4
LGBT
Americans
--- --- --- --- 4




March 15
County Conventions Convene. District & State Convention
Delegates selected.
April 14
District-level delegate and alternate deadline for filing the
statement of candidacy and pledge of support forms with State
Party.
April 16
Presidential Candidate deadline for certifying the name(s) of their
authorized representative (s) to the state party.
April 26 Presidential candidates provide list of approved district-level
delegate and alternate candidates to State Party.
Page 52 Iowa 2008 Delegate Selection Plan
Date
Activity
April 26
District Conventions conveneDistrict Level National
Convention Delegates selected.
June 2
Pledged PLEO and at-large delegate or alternate candidate
deadline for filing the statement of candidacy and pledge of
support forms with State Party.
June 13
Presidential candidates submit lists of candidates for standing
committee members to State Party.
June 14
State Party provide approved list of pledged PLEO and at-large
delegate and alternate candidates to respective Presidential
Candidates.
June 14
Presidential candidates provide approved list of pledged PLEO
delegate candidates to State Party.
June 14
State Convention convenes. Unpledged add-on and pledged PLEO
delegates selected. Following selection of PLEO delegates,
presidential candidates provide approved list of at-large delegate
and alternate candidates to State Party. State Convention selects
at-large delegates and alternates.
June 15
National Convention delegation meeting. Delegates select
National Convention standing committee members and delegation
chair. State Chair names convention pages.
June 15
State Party certifies remainder of elected delegates and alternates
(Unpledged add-on, PLEOs, and at-large), along with standing
committee members, delegation chair, and convention pages


Iowa 2008 Delegate Selection Plan Page 69


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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:41 PM
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26. Any idea what time we'll see some results from Iowa today?
any?

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:56 PM
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29. nothing on the networks yet
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:28 PM
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30. Any updates? Have to leave for work soon and won't be able to check in till morning. Plz
post any news when available !
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:27 PM
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38. well in googling the internet there is only one place that is following this closely
unfortunately it is this thread lol
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM
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31. Results from Marshall County
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM by pstans
I was at the Marshall County Convention. Here are the results from the convention...

http://commoniowan.blogspot.com /

First Alignment

Obama 86
Edwards 46
Clinton 37
Richardson 2

Viability 26

With a few minutes left during realignment, the Edwards group had 24 people, 2 shy of viability. They couldn't get 2 more people and the their group disbanded. Of those 24, 2 went to Clinton and 22 went to Obama.

After Realignment
Obama 125
Clinton 42

Delegates Elected
Obama 24
Clinton 8
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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32. lookin' good!
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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34. Thank you for posting
appreciate the update

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:11 PM
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35. Cool!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:12 PM
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36. yeah!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:25 PM
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37. thank you for the update
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:30 PM
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39. so far so good
these numbers will remain pretty solid Obama. What still mystifies me is how hard the party worked in 04 to convince Howard Dean to step down after a 3rd place in Iowa. That factor is missing this time around. Hmmm.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:02 PM
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48. Dean would have won NH had the media not forced the Dean Scream nonsense.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:04 PM by Drunken Irishman
People say Dean's loss in Iowa crippled him in NH, however, leading up to the primary day Dean's numbers actually began to RISE and had there been an extra week, the whole Dean Scream story would've blown over and Dean would have been very capable of beating Kerry in New Hampshire.

While Dean eventually lost NH by 12, polls taken after Iowa had Kerry leading by 20 points. Had his "scream" not been an issue, I believe Kerry's lead would've been within 5-10 points and Dean could have closed the gap much like Hillary did this time around. But by the time the media began backing off the story, the damage was done and the lead too big for Dean to overcome.

Lame.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. So?
Dean is the DNC chairman now. You're still talking about 2004. Stop it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:18 PM
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54. Don't tell me to stop it.
You sound like Kerry when he told voters to get over the 2000 election. I still think Dean would have made a wonderful president and yes, I am bitter over his defeat. So while I'm glad he is the DNC Chairman now, it doesn't change how much I still wish he were president.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:24 PM
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58. Why not?
You're bitter? I thought you were better than that.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:28 PM
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64. There are a lot of bitter Dean supporters who feel the media did him in.
Had Dean lost on his own, I wouldn't be bitter. The fact the media focused on something that was a non-issue and pushed the story over and over again, driving his campaign into the ground, well that pisses me off. I'm still bitter over 2000, too and even 2004.

It's not like we're talking class elections here. Had 2000 gone differently, everything would have been different.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:38 PM
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66. So, how is that different than this year?
I don't seem to remember the media being overly friendly to the Democrats for the last umpteen years after the coronation of King Ronald McDonald Raygun.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:50 PM
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68. It isn't.
Which sucks. But hopefully the nominee can win.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:32 PM
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40. 3 to 1 for Obama! That is awesome!
I wondered how this would play out. Hope this is reflected thruout Iowa. After today, they'll have the district convention and then the state convention -- and then we'll see the real Iowa results.

Here's how they ended up back in 2004, when Kerry was the presumptive nominee:

Iowa caucus in January: Kerry 21; Edwards 17; Dean 7
Iowa goes to the national convention with: Kerry 39; Edwards 4; Dean 2
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:42 PM
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42. updated on that blog:
It was interesting picking the delegates from the Obama group. There were around 50 people that wanted to be delegates and only 24 spots. Since so many of the Edwards group came over to Obama, 3 of the delegates were given to Edwards supporters. Then the Obama group elected 1 person from each precinct. The larger precincts got 2 people. We then counted up and we had 1 delegate too many. We called everyone together and it happened that just 1 delegate had left, so they were crossed off the list.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:56 PM
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44. Great News!!!! Damn, this makes me happy!!!! Go Iowa!!! n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:33 PM
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41. any word from TwoSparkles yet?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:57 PM
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45. no but when you google for "Iowa convention updates"
You now not only get directed back to this thread -

but you actually get directed to the reply making the ironic comment that you would only find a comment directing you back to this thread.

Democratic Underground - **** Breaking - Results of Today's Iowa ...
So Edwards needs 15% at any County Convention to put county delegates ... Trying to find a link for Iowa updates, All I got on google was this idiot: ...
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=sh... - 2 hours ago -

Of course now this reply is the latest breaking news about Iowa county convention results . . . beer time


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:01 PM
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47. oy!
rofl!
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:55 PM
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43. Story and Johnson Counties
Story Co http://www.bleedingheartland.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1...
Obama 44
Clinton 20
Edwards 14

Johnson Co. http://jdeeth.blogspot.com/2008/03/johnson-county-updat...
Obama 77
Edwards 33
Clinton 31
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:05 PM
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49. more:
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:08 PM by FLDem5
Story County Convention Summary (4.00 / 1)

After the typical delays and arguments over procedure, preference groups were finalized.
Edwards lost about a 1/3 of his delegates to Obama, but maintained a viable group with 14 delegates to district.

Clinton remained even and had around 20 delegates.

Obama gained all of Richardson and the Edwards defectors and ended up with about 44 delegates.

Each group had about 50% more volunteers to be delegates than spots available. I left in the middle of the speeches (childcare expecting at least one parent back from the convention by 3.)

Final convention endng with approval of platforms can't be expected until at least 5 or 6 at the rate they were going.



...and from the second link:

Final alignment

Obama 183 (+4 from caucus), 73 delegates
Edwards 82 (exactly same as caucus), 33 delegates
Clinton 77 (+7 from caucus), 31 delegates


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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:09 PM
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52. From what I'm reading
they really don't like Clinton in Iowa! I think I would like that state! They have good taste in politicians! LOL I agree with them about Obama and Edwards! I like both of them.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:07 PM
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50. grantcart - Question here?
I love reading your posts always packed full of information and links. I know only a few counties are reporting right now, but what is your hunch about the 14 D's that belong to Edwards, do you think any of them can be swayed?

thank you in advance
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:08 PM
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51. according to the posts above, some may be defecting.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:19 PM
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55. There is a hard core bunch that want to keep Edwards group together all the way to the
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:20 PM by grantcart
national convention. The problem that they are facing is that they have to maintain viability at each step of the way. At this particular county they just missed it and so they lose all of the delegates from the county at the next step. When you add this to the fact that Edwards will be losing supporters even in the counties where they do make the viability threshold it is clear to see that Edwards will be losing numbers through out the process.

Who will they go to? As a former Edwards supporter now with Obama I think most will go to Obama but that could be my bias.

Clinton has an even bigger worry in Iowa. Remember how after Iowa she said it wasn't that important? Remember how after each caucus loss she dissed the caucuses? Somebody forgot to tell Hillary that Iowans weren't finished qutie yet and the number won't be finalized until June 15th.

I have seen some comments by Clinton supporters who have said that they are switching to Obama.

For the Clinton supporter who thinks I am just making this up - I leave you with this






Iowa could end up bringing even more bad news to Hillary and more delegates to Obama.


(thank you for your kind words)
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:26 PM
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60. Woodbury County
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/15/132450/538

Woodbury county (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by: Galois
From the same Obama thread

Obama - 30 delegates
Clinton - 20 delegates
Edwards - 14 delegates

+6 O, -4 C, -4 E (change from January)
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:27 PM
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61. Go Obama!!! n/t
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:27 PM
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62. psst, Texans aren't done either
next step is 3/29. word on the ground in Austin is that she's still threatening to sue to stop the caucuses.

dg
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:10 PM
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78. any link or update?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:29 PM
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79. Nothing updated
the county conventions won't be until 3/29.

dg
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:28 PM
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63. Not only that, but since Hillary made race an issue in her campaign, some of them are just flat out
mad and will be switching in order to help put an end to this nightmare of a catastrophe of a campaign.

Edwards wanted to be "a king maker", but most of them aren't willing to let him wait any longer.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:20 PM
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56. here are some results on this diary:
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:25 PM
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59. Obama took Polk county BIG!!
Edwards remained a viable group at the Polk county caucus but it would appear that Obama took the overall majority wiht Clinton a distance 2nd..
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:30 PM
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65. Clayton County:
Clayton County broke hard for Obama! (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by: Galois
It went about 70-30 for him, we're sending 11 Obama delegates on compared to 5 for Clinton.

does anyone know the original result there?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:48 PM
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67. Thanks for the updates
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:51 PM
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69. ** Obama camp claims net gain of 7 from Iowa , Clinton -1 **
In evening conference call, Obama camp claims theyve won 23 of the 45 pledged delegates at stake a net gain of 7 since caucuses in early January while Clinton has lost 1 at 14.

http://thepage.time.com /



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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:08 PM
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70. Per KWWL (Waterloo station) just now reporting...
With 57% of total in from county conventions:

Obama 52%%
Clinton 31%
Edwards 16%

Reporting Edwards delegates are mostly holding out for him.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:26 PM
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71. Just returned from my Iowa County Convention...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:28 PM by TwoSparkles
I'm sorry that I couldn't blog live. I experienced technical difficulties!

I'll give you the low-down on what I experienced.

Here are our numbers from the Polk County Convention. Polk County is a very large county
in Iowa. The largest city (Des Moines), is in Polk County--as well as all of the surrounding
suburbs.

Here are the delegate vote counts:

Obama--537
Clinton-- 304
Edwards--189

So, these numbers mean: Polk County will send the following number of delegates to the next
convention in Iowa--the District Convention, which is the last week in April.

Obama: 6
Clinton: 3
Edwards: 2

This is interesting, because the Iowa caucus results (from Jan 2008) have the vote percentages
as follows. Here is the percentage of delegates that each candidate garnered STATEWIDE:

Obama: 38%
Clinton: 30%
Edwards: 30%

The percentages that each candidate won TODAY, March 2008, in Polk County, as as follows:

Obama: 55.5%
Clinton: 27.2%
Edwards: 18.1%

Look at the difference in those numbers. This is only in my county, so we'll have to wait
for all of the county totals to come in. However, I can tell you this...the numbers coming
in from other counties are very similar to these. I know that two other counties came in Obama 6, Clinton 3.
I heard those results coming in from other counties, from party officials.

The other counties that are listed in this thread--seem to repeat what I experienced in my county.

It appears that not only has Obama gained support, but also that O may have also gained some
of Hillary's supporters. Her percentages ticked down a few points. Where else would her people have gone?
Certainly not to Edwards.

All in all it was a good day. I'm dog tired. The Obama people were on fire. They're all so fun
and full of hope and good cheer. I'm going to write more about this later, but I need to catch
a half-hour nap before I fall over.

I wanted to make sure and check in before I nodded off. Oh, I'm also going to be a district delegate, so
I'll move onto the next phase of the caucus. The process goes COUNTY convention, DISTRICT convention, STATE
convention and then on to Denver! The delegate numbers get winnowed down at each convention until we
get to Denver.

We'll have to wait until the numbers come in from today--but it is looking like the initial delegate
count for the Iowa caucuses could change somewhat (with Obama gaining more delegates and Hillary losing
a bit), but we'll just have to see.

I'll write more later....for now, I zzzzzzz. :) :hug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:37 PM
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72. great report
we are hearing from several anecdotal sources that some Clinton supporters switched to Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:42 PM
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73. It appears major gains for Obama
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:46 PM by grantcart
Comparison between Caucus and County Convention

. . . . Caucus . . . County Conventions

Obama 37.5% . . . . . .52.33%

Edwards 29.75% . . . . .15.64%

Clinton 29.47% . . . . . 31.68%

not sure percentage reporting
http://www.iowademocrats.us/draftconventionresults.pdf

These reflect about 90% returns from the 99 county conventions
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:42 AM
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83. Thank you so much!
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:48 PM
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74. Great Informative Thread that Needs a Kick in the Pants
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:12 PM
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80. thanks and last kick before bed lol
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:54 PM
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75. It looks like Obama might have picked up 5 more delegates based on what happened today
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:01 PM
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76. Time : Obama picks up at least 7 delegates in Iowa's county conventions


(DES MOINES, Iowa) Democrat Barack Obama expanded his fragile lead in delegates over rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday, picking up at least seven delegates as Iowa activists took the next step in picking delegates to the national convention.


Half the 14 delegates allocated to John Edwards on the basis of caucus night projections switched Saturday and Obama got most, if not all, of them.

Iowa Democratic Party officials said that with more than 86 percent of the delegates picked, Obama claimed 52 percent of the delegates elected at county conventions on Saturday, compared to 32 percent for Clinton. About 16 percent of the delegates picked at Saturday's conventions were sticking with Edwards, even though he's dropped from the race since Iowa held its caucuses in January.

The epic presidential race between Clinton and Obama has been reshaped since Iowa's caucuses, but is no less intense with every delegate carrying weight.

Obama Expands Delegate Lead Over Clinton


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,172275...
"Every single one counts and that's why we've been here organizing," said Teresa Vilmain, a field organizer for Clinton.

"We've filled all of our slots," said Gordon Fischer, a former Iowa Democratic chairman who is organizing for Obama.

Rob Tully, a Des Moines lawyer and prominent Edwards backer, sent an e-mail to supporters urging them to remain neutral, but there was clear movement to Obama when the results were tallied.

"Barack Obama stands for a lot of the same things that John Edwards stood for," said Ro Foege, a state legislator from Mount Vernon who switched to the Obama camp. t
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:56 AM
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82. Looks like the results might be O+9, C+1, E-10
From the DCW website Sunday morning.

That's nine less superdelegates needed for Obama!

:dunce:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:14 PM
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77. K&R!
Thanks Iowans for the updates! This is really fascinating!!! :thumbsup:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:44 PM
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81. Kick
:kick:
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