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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:38 AM
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Obama's YouTube upload - going viral.
Obama has uploaded a message to YouTube regarding the Wright story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFbDpTPd0ac
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:41 AM
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1. This is how a President stands up to Swift Boating.
Nice try, Hillary.
You have played your Ace in the Hole.
The only problem is that Obama has a Royal Flush.
Game over.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:43 AM
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2. His bluff will be called. all he has is an eight high.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:48 AM
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12. Didn't you mean that....
...HILLARY'S bluff will be called over hyping this bullshit? At least he holds some cards...all Hillary has is hot air.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:51 AM
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16. This whole charade is designed by the Clintons to get SDs to switch over.
Unfortunately for her, Obama doesn't run solely on one attribute or issue.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:53 AM
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19. Obama has yet to explain how he stood for the Hate America for 20yrs and never stopped it!
Combine that with Michelle's Thesis, "The Racial Divide".. advocating "Black Separatism", as they do in Wright's Church, there is a correlation between their private beliefs and the pap the sell Americans on the stump!

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:54 AM
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22. Seriously, are you a freeper?
What are you pushing?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:57 AM
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31. Same as me, pushing for a Democrat in the white house.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:58 AM by MNDemNY
This little issue is fatal for us if Obama is the nominee.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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27. Will Barack have to distance himself from Michelle?
That would be a tough one.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 PM
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43. do you have any evidence of 'hate america' statements made at any time except in the clips?
You are taking 30 seconds out of one sermon and saying it is representative of 20 years of preaching.
That shows a lack of intelligence on your part.

Would you like your whole life to be equivocated to a single post you made on this board?
I think not, because you have made some downright stupid comments here.


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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:10 PM
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45. Why hasn't hillaryis44 fixed their corrupted code yet?
?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:44 AM
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4. I was impressed with the video. It was clear and concise. People are
going to believe what they choose to believe based on their biases, but this video, IMO, is exactly the correct response.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:45 AM
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5. I don't know if Hillary is responsible for this...
Sounds a lot like a repug attack to me.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:47 AM
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10. I think she is
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:49 AM
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14. Oh fuck.
I heard the Clintons did this kind of thing. I just never thought that they would do it against a fellow democrat.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:59 AM
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33. Obama is responsible for this mess.
His lies and insistence on keeping his ties with this man are fatal to his candidacy.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 PM
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36. He said that he never heard these particular remarks.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:05 PM
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39. I do not believe that You are delusional if you do.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:07 PM
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41. Do you have any proof otherwise?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 PM
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44. Sorry, but with respect to this election, common sense says that is a lie.
Only an obamatron would believe that. The vast majority of voters will not.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:59 AM
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34. They'll "do it" to ANYONE who gets in their way...
...it's just historically been Republicans mostly who are on the receiving end.

Duke
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:58 AM
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32. Yes, it does seem to be coming from the repugs...
but Hillary's camp won't hesitate to amplify it. The real "dope pushers" here, as always, are the media, whose fondest hope is to play everything all the way to a brokered convention, hopefully with riots and blood and stuff - they're all a-twitter.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:44 AM
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3. He did a great job.
Just how I would expect a president to respond.
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:45 AM
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6. So according to Obama his pastor and mentor of 20 yrs has never made these kinds of statements...
before in his presence.... Hmmmmm
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:45 AM
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7. Have any proof otherwise?
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:46 AM
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9. Nope...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:07 PM
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42. Only a true obamaton would believe that.
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ficus1 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:33 AM
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53. Actually, if these kinds of statements were regularly made
Then we'd have more video/audio/writings to point to. If you don't think Wright's sermons were exhaustively searched in the last week for more "Gotcha" moments you're naive.

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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:48 AM
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11. Prove it
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:54 AM
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23. I'm sure someone will... Everything comes out eventually... Just hope its not too late for us to win
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:51 AM
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17. People are going to believe or not believe. I think that the total impact
of this story will be impossible to know for a couple of weeks. I think he's done what he can do in regards to this. People will now make up their own minds about his veracity and sincerity.

I happen to believe him.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:54 AM
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21. Well, given that Obama is away quite often due to political commitments and his day job...
It most certainly isn't outside of reason to say that he hasn't attended every single service.

Let's be real, do you honestly think Obama flies back home from Washington to Chicago every weekend just to attend church?
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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29. I'm sure he hasn't attended every single service... But 20 yrs worth is a lot of services...
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 PM
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37. I've heard other people who went to that church say
that those comments were very rare, and that they were surprised to hear of it.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:46 AM
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8. Superb
I hope this guy will be as good of a president as he is a candidate.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:49 AM
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13. I really thought it was an excellent response. N/T
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:51 AM
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15. be aggressive and attack the problem head-on
Good move.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:52 AM
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18. To Me It Was Too Wordy, And I Didn't Like That He Seemed To Be Reading Off A Teleprompter.
Just my initial thoughts...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:54 AM
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20. Well, it's a start.
At least he responded instead of taking vacation, right?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:54 AM
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24. True, But I Wish He Didn't Have To Read The Words.
I never like seeing that in such a situation.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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28. People always bring up the teleprompter thing. I don't understand that
at all. Teleprompters, IMO, aren't indicative of anything.

I used to teach seminars to educators regarding working with kids with behavioral and emotional disorders. I did this quite often, across multiple states. Even though it was the same seminar, over and over, I always used notes and some of that was written out verbatim, so that I could give exact quotes and not mess it up. While I wasn't an amazing public speaker, I kept my audience entertained and informed and never thought that by using visuals assists I was less sincere or knowledgable.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 PM
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35. In Most Situations I Don't Mind Them At All. But I Think It's Use Was Wrong Here.
It makes his message come across less from the heart and more politically prepared, and causes him to have to read it instead of coming off as more personable and sincere talking straight to us through the camera. He loses a bit of his personal touch because of that, and I think it shows through the video. I think it would have more of an impact if he had been able to just speak to the camera directly from his heart, and bring through that charm we love him for. It just didn't come through as much to me, that's all.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 PM
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40. Got it. I didn't get that impression, but I can see your point. Thanks. N/T
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:13 AM
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50. WGAF
Thanks.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:55 AM
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25. K&R.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:55 AM
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26. All I can say about that video is: Presidential.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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30. Thanks, pdxmom.
Passing on to friends.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:05 PM
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38. If nothing else
getting out ahead of a controversy and addressing it directly is the only move with any hope of positive effect. Delay or equivocation, whether justified or not, allows opponents to cast you as weaselly in the public mind. Apparently, Obama has very good instincts, he's not as callow as some insist.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:12 PM
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46. Doesn't this kick the Muslim lie to the curb?
How can he be in a faux Christian church scandal if he is a Muslim..
Something positive may come out of this after all
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:45 AM
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47. The beauty of The Smear is ....
.... it doesn't have to be rational. With each smear thrown, some little bit sticks, diminishing the target -- even if a smear is objectively and publicly proven false.

"Obama is a muslim" will stick with some morons.

"Obama supports militant blacks" will scare off some, even without affecting those already persuaded by the muslim message.

And tying it all together with an overarching theme, like "Obama says one thing in public, another in private," helps with each smear's penetration.



(Not that being a muslim should be considered a smear or considered at all. But the reality of the Presidential campaign carries a different, saddening context.)
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:17 AM
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52. Barack denies knowing anything about Wrights sermons though.
faux Christian?
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:07 AM
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48. Kick
:kick:


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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:09 AM
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49. kick
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:15 AM
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51. It's viral all right.
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