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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:55 AM
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Is it possible Clinton & McCain are colluding?

Clinton wants to run and McCain wants to run against Clinton. Right? Do you think they're collaborating on these smears against Obama?





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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:56 AM
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1. Stephanie, really. The Church of Obamatology is going too far.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:58 AM
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4. yep... it's an obamanation! (lol)
Actually, more seriously, I am quite offended.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:05 AM
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9. McCain would love to run against Obama... Clinton.. not so much!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 AM
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15. I guess you haven't read the polling.
Obama polls far better against McCain than she does. Hillary & McCain are two peas in the pod. What are they going to argue about? They agree!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:16 AM
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27. That was then.... the latest scandal will bury Obama in a week. Obama is finished..
NO country lovin American will vote for him now.. He supports "God Damn America"!
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:20 AM
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30. Pr-War, Pro-NAFTA Clinton...now that's REAL CHANGE!!
In best case scenario she loses 6% to McCain. Best case.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:23 AM
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35. If you knew what you were talking about, that would be one thing...
Let me know when you can post something credible besides your lame brained opinion.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:35 AM
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46. Denying Hillary's war vote is as bad as her defending it. Denying Clinton's pro-NAFTA
belief and support isn't helping your country, at all. These two bad decisions have done more to undermine America and the American family than any legislation in the previous 60 years. Spend your time trying to develop (in your mind) why, if she's nominated, that she lost. I'm sure you'll have brilliant reasons for her defeat. Unfortunately they won't be reality based.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:37 AM
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49. Hillary is the only viable Dem we have as the Democratic Nominee..
Obama is wracked with Lies and Scandal. What part of that newflash don't you understand?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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62. Jesus you're stupid.
It must be painful going through life like that.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:50 AM
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56. ROFPIMPLMAO....
....your jokes are old...but still, anyone making this much of a fool of him/herself is worthy of being laughed at!

:rofl:

Sooooooo...why is the queen hiding her tax returns?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:40 AM
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51. Mario Coumo said that Hillary has an easier road because McCain can't hit her about
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM by wlucinda
Iraq. I agree with him. She voted, she funded, she's on the ASC, and most of the country agrees with her about bringing the troops home as fast as possible. McCain talking about surges and losing won't cut it.

I've never bought into the the "Hillary is the easy one, and they want to run against her" meme.

As far as current matchup polling goes, IMO it really doesn't matter. Everything changes once it goes head to head. Polling numbers can turn on a dime.

In GE issues, it's all about the economy. No one can get up to speed fast enough to debate Hillary or Obama about economic issues. Health care is a target for either Hillary or Obama, but again, a huge number of people want health care.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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61. Hilary's husband (in name) Bill - was on Limbaugh show day of Tx & OH primary
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted
so, they have the same team structure.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:31 AM
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43. chimpy I have already
Alerted the moderators about this thread. It's very offensive and divisive. It is against DU policy.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:06 PM
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59. well they both have same advisory firm - Mark Penn's
maybe all of this is to make sure that the Dems don't win. Fits right in with the DLC pattern.

Hillary is a multi millionaire anyway, her corporate masters are in power if she
or McCain win.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:05 PM
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73. yep. Obama good, everyone else pure evil. nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:57 AM
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2. Actually, I think it's just Hillary
Say what you want about McCain, he still retains a shred of honor and dignity.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:05 AM
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8. mccain has no honor or dignity and I don't think he cares about human life.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:06 AM
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10. You could make a good case for all of that
My impression is that he still cares a bit about how he's perceived in public.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:14 AM
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25. McCain has no honor or dignity... He's insane in the membrane.
McCain on waterboarding: "I believe that it is torture, very exquisite torture."

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IdClaire Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:22 AM
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32. insane in the brain nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:25 AM
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37. Welcome to DU!
:hi:



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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:57 AM
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3. Over 50% chance.
But so what. They'll both lose.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:00 AM
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5. ANYTHING is possible...
but that doesn't make it LIKELY.
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GrandmaJones7 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:13 PM
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67. I agree with you. The OP is dilusional. NTXT
.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 PM
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78. I won't go there...
I can be delusional at times.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:00 AM
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6. Of course, it's all Hillary's
fault. :sarcasm:
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:03 AM
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7. NO, but they're working separately towards the same end...
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:07 AM
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11. Hillary and McCain are both neocons, so anything is possible
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:07 AM
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12. Mark Penn (Hill) and Charlie Black (McCain) own the same firm
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM
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65. It took 12 posts.
Now I don't have to.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:12 PM
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66. And they've done it before when neither wanted to face Kerry on a debate stage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg


Hillary KNEW for at least 24 hours at this point that the prepared remarks proved Kerry merely dropped a pronoun from a joke. Instead of defending a fellow Dem from the VRW lie machine, she found a camera to VALIDATE the smear.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 AM
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13. It can't be ruled out but without evidence it can't be ruled in.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:15 AM
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26. Yep
Good morning Mr. OC! :hi:

:hangover:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:19 AM
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29. and a good mornin' right back, sir. Good to see ya.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:22 AM
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31. After a hard week of studies, I took yesterday afternoon off to complete this:


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:23 AM
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33. I love it. Have you been to the Crazy Horse statue?
I got to see it when it was c. halfway done.

It's very impressive -- and long overdue.

Chief Joseph speaks for me.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:42 AM
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52. No, not yet.
If I can't go abroad this year I will consider visiting it. My native roots are up that way (Ho-Chunk/Wisconsin).

You might be interested in this thread I started:

"Lakotah Unilateral Withdrawal from All Agreements and Treaties with the United States of America"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:25 AM
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38. That is beautiful!
Thanks Swampy for sharing that! :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:42 AM
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53. Thanks
:hi:

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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:43 AM
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54. That is gorgeous, Swamp Rat.
If you're selling prints, PM me how to order one, please.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:48 AM
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55. I don't sell my work, but thanks.
You are free to download it.

:hi:
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 PM
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80. Wa'do! Thank you!
I'm going to make it my new wallpaper.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:03 PM
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57. Poignant and beautiful. Thanks for that.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:16 PM
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69. Glad it wasn't this:


:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:27 PM
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70. Ack!
Park Rangers would have to guard it 24/7 to keep people from dynamiting into little pebbles.


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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 AM
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They don't need to - The media is deconstructing Obama
with the scrutiny that should have been given his campaign long ago, when we still had options


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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:08 AM
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14. Is It Possible That You've Totally Gone Off The Deep End?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:09 AM
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16. No, but I certainly think the Rethugs see Hillary as the lesser of two evils
Through her DLC ties, Hillary would be the easier Dem to for them to collude with if she DID win.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:11 AM
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17. Or, could Obama's lies and less than half-truths be the cause?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:11 AM
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20. Please name one
Thanks.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:17 AM
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28. He claims he was "unaware " of the pastors comments.
He says his only connection to Rezco is 5 hours of legal work, He claims to have a plan for "universal" health care, He claimed to be unaware of little Donnie's homophobia.............
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:24 AM
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36. He said he was unaware until he started running for president, when he was then made aware of them.
You don't have any evidence to the contrary.

He was accused in the debate of "working" for Rezco, and he truthfully stated he only did five hours of work, as a partner in his law firm confirmed. That was a truthful answer.

Hillary's plan is to universally force the public to purchase insurance. Neither plan is single-payer which is what true universal health care would be.

You have no evidence that Obama was aware of McClurkin's statements beforehand.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:30 AM
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41. Then why did he cancel the invocation that Rev Wright was to give at his announcement of his run?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:33 AM by MNDemNY
Sorry doesn't fly, hell it doesn't walk. This story is the end of obamanation.Your arguments require one to take everything the lord god-obama says as truth. All you can say is that your guy denies it so there! Good argument, but as shallow as obama.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:33 AM
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44. Because his team did the research when he decided to run.
And they found the disturbing statements. He said very clearly last night on CNN that he was unaware of the statements at the time they were made but he did become aware when he started running for president. You don't start running on the day of the announcement. Step One is to vet yourself, by having your team dig up anything that might be used against you. He distanced himself from Wright last year because he did not agree with these statements.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:35 AM
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47. Keep up the "hope" that's all you got.
Obama is as good as done. If he gets the nomination, hello president McCain. The fork is in.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:37 AM
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48. Yeah. "Hope" is a bad thing, and smearing your opponent's church is good.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:38 AM
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50. His self admitted "spiritual adviser of twenty years".
Obama owns that statement.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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58. So what? He doesn't have to agree with every word the man says.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM by Stephanie
Especially when he wasn't even aware of it. Are you going to ask Oprah to renounce him too? That's her church as well.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 PM
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72. Hannity, is that you?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:11 AM
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18. No. Next ridiculous question.
If you want to know where "this" is coming from, just check the RW AM Talk shows (and their websites), and the RW-"news" sites, like "NewsMax" and the one that sound like "weekly worlds news," It's something like that, I just can't remember the name of in now.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:12 AM
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21. Click the link in the OP
Obama's "opponents" have been pushing the story.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:11 AM
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19. After Hillary's endorsement of McCain, anything is possible
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:13 AM
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23. That's what I'm thinking.
And I think he'd much prefer to run against her.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:13 AM
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22. Yes, you finally figured it out, but PLEASE don't tell the media about it, OK?
We just wouldn't want this breaking news to ruin Hillary's chances (snicker)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:14 AM
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24. If Newton and Leibniz could invent calculus independent of each other...
it's not startling for two people to note the same vulnerabilities in a candidate.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:23 AM
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34. Possible? Absolutely! Go to this link and I think you'll have no question..
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:31 AM by Skidmore
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:27 AM
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39. McCain was on TV saying it's not fair to criticize Obama for his pastor's views
And saying "I know Senator Obama and he does not share those views"

Not "as far as I know"

Not "I think he doesn't share those views"

So he gets the advantage of appearing to take the high road while Clinton slams his opponent for November.

In fairness, McCain was also pretty fiercely against the Swiftliars, and didn't go negative on Shrub in 2000. Maybe he likes to run positive campaigns.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:29 AM
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40. You think McCain wouldn't stoop so low as Hillary's willing to go?
You might be right. She has no principles.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:34 AM
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45. I didn't say that. The only tough campaign he's ever had was 2000
The fact that he didn't go negative even after vile Rovian attacks on him (frankly some of the most disgusting attacks I've seen in politics: claiming he was mentally unbalanced because of his POW time, insinuating the girl they adopted was his illegitimate child, etc.) could mean a few things:

A) Maybe he has principles. Before the chorus of people accuse me of naivite, this is actually possible. His "maverick" status and distrust from the GOP rank and file come from the fact that he doesn't toe the GOP line all the time; it's possible he actually is a principled person with some wrong political views.

B) Maybe he saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to damage his party's eventual nominee (hint, hint)

C) Maybe he's a really bad campaigner and just couldn't mount an attack

D) Some or all of the above
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:30 AM
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42. Clinton, no. Penn, yes.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:07 PM
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60. Let's just say they're both "patriotic."
And that's what Hillary's senate record shows.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:10 PM
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63. If you look closely at the videos of Pastor Wright, you can see that it's
really McCain in blackface.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:11 PM
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64. Damn - I thought you said they were CUDDLING!
There's a visual I just don't want to contemplate.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:14 PM
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68. National Plutocratic Party
Their campaigns run by the same PR firm.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/02/mark-penns-tangled-c...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:07 PM
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74. Do you suppose they have a firewall btw the campaigns at that ofc?
Yeah, I doubt it too.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:29 PM
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71.  And you wonder why we call some of you Obamites.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:09 PM
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75. And we wonder why namecalling is your only response to serious questions.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:09 PM by Stephanie
Your girl has proven to be a dishonest, mudslinging dirty little cheat. I guess that's the kind of status quo you believe in. The rest of us are moving on.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:07 PM
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79. And Obama is just perfect.
:eyes:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:12 PM
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76. Possible? I'd bet money on it.
And I don't have extra money for frivolous betting - but this would be a sure thing.


Can't you just feel the love?



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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:16 PM
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77. They are both benificiaries of the same events.
The both won NH, for example, after losing in Iowa, and what do you know, McCain wound up as the nominee.

Hillary is proving to be a much tougher sell, but she knows she's got the best fixers in the business behind her, and if they could foist Monkey Boy on us for eight years, they ought to be able to foist her.

Basically, she's McCain's understudy, and I think she fully expects Obama to be taken out in any way necessary.
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