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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:53 AM
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Hillary Clinton Makes Campaign Stops In Pittsburgh
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:52 AM by rodeodance

Hillary Clinton Makes Campaign Stops In Pittsburgh




"How many of you have college debt you're paying right now?" New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton last night asked the crowd of thousands in the Soldiers & Sailors Military Museum and Memorial.

Scores of hands went up in the audience in front of her, and one particularly prominent one sparked laughter as it rose amid the VIPs flanking her on the grand Oakland stage.

With a broad smile, Mrs. Clinton noticed Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl, who had just endorsed her Democratic presidential candidacy.

"If you're the youngest mayor in America, you probably do have college debt," she observed. "Well, here's an offer that the mayor might be able to take advantage of. If you're willing to do public service, mayor, like teaching or nursing or law enforcement -- or mayoring -- we will forgive your debt over a period of years."



"We need to rebuild the relationship between our president and our people," she said. "The best way for you to think about this is who would you hire for this job?"

That sparked chants of "Hill-a-ry, Hill-a-ry, Hill-a-ry," as she ticked off a list of priorities for her administration.

Mrs. Clinton lingered long after the rally's formal close, signing campaign signs and other memorabilia for a mixed but mostly female crowd that pressed toward the stage. Many came away laughing and yelling in triumph as they displayed the trophy of her signature.




Earlier, Clinton stopped in the citys Bloomville section for her energy-related meeting with reporters, held in the service bay of a gas station.

After meeting with the stations owner and a woman who recounted the impact or rising gas prices on her life, Clinton discussed her own ideas on energy. She said that the average Pennsylvania spends $2,000 more per year than in 2001, when President Bush took office, as the result of higher energy prices.

We have to move toward energy independence in order to have control over our own destiny and to get prices down, she said.



Clinton said that she would use targeted investments of $150 billion by the federal government to encourage the shift to alternate energy sources and would increase fuel-economy standards to 55 miles per gallon by 2030. Obama has made similar proposals.

Those moves would have little impact in the short run. To impact the market now, Clinton said that the government should stop putting oil into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and should consider releasing some of what is already there.



At the gas station, Clinton also belittled Bushs recent, unsuccessful attempt to get the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries to increase production.

I will not be a president who holds hands with the Saudis, she said. I will hold the Saudis accountable.


"I don't think a Democrat can win the White House without winning Pennsylvania," Senator Clinton told KDKA. "So, for me, this is the keystone state and I'm going to work very, very hard to do as well as I can in the Primary."

She also said that she knows the race between her and Senator Barack Obama is very close.

"We're running based on the differences in our records and our qualifications and on issues and that's the way it should be," she added. "Obviously, I'm a woman and he's an African-American, but we're running as individuals with our respective positions and what we're offering the people of Pennsylvania."

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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:05 AM
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1. She "won't hold hands with the Saudls"? She already does.

And Clinton claims PA is a must win for the dems to win the White House. Rendell
just claimed this week, that Obama will beat McCain in PA.

Funny how she has to point out she's a woman and Obama is an African American. Why?

Clinton: "Obviously, I'm a woman and he's an African-American, but we're running as individuals with our respective positions and what we're offering the people of Pennsylvania."

What's the point Hillary? We all know you're a woman and Barack Obama is black.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:06 AM
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3. I loved that Rendell quote. Guess it really doesn't matter who wins PA in 5 weeks? The Democrats wil
l win it in November either way!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:37 AM
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5. She said it cause she prob. knows that there are some Obamafolks who can't see the obvious
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:53 PM
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46. And the Saudis donated to Bill's library.....

You're as scary as they are. "STFU"- classy, rodeodance, classy.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:16 PM
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18. She just takes money from the Saudis, she doesn't hold their hands
why do you think the last few years of tax returns are still unreleased.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 PM
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22. Jesus - you are straining to find offense
Fact is there is hardly a shred of difference between the candidates on policy. Hillary has the better grasp.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 PM
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24. grasp of what? W's lies?
She was one of a minority of democratic congresspeople dumb enough to be duped into voting for the IRW and still won't apologize for it. and she supports Kyle-Lieberman. And she supports continued sanctions on Cuba. She is more of the same stupid foreign policy we have had the past 8 years, just with a different bit of emphasis.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:34 PM
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29. go dump your crap somewhere else for christs sake. this is a positive thread
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:56 PM
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47. Positive thread my ass! You tell people to STFU because they comment

on Hillary's statements (lies, rather). You NEVER add anything positive to any discussion.
You're absolutely hostile and nothing else.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:38 PM
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31. Policy details sweetie.
Policy details. In that respect she is the complete Unbush
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:32 PM
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28. Typical Rudeness --come onto a positive thread and dump on it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:30 PM
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27. got a pic of that holding hands?---if not then STFU
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:14 PM
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40. heres one
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:50 PM
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45. There are plenty of pictures of the Clintons w/ the Saudis

STFU? I bet you have a lot of friends.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:05 AM
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2. K and R
:patriot:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 AM
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4. :-)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 AM
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6. Well done!
You can just tell that people who are realistic love her because she talks about what our real problems are and what she's going to do about them. Hillary's supporters know that she's out to help them, not to hypnotize them.

:thumbsup:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 AM
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7. Thank you-we read/here her--She inspires us.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 PM
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34. This inspires hope and optimism and confidence
Grasp of detail
Work ethic
Understanding of the issues
Determination to get things done that affect our lives (read economy, health coverage, education)
Commitment to bring the troops home

She is totally believable on all these. I believe she will work her hardest to get these things moved forward and accomplished.

I believe she has both the desire and the ability. and the work ethic

That's inspiring.

All that said - she was not my top choice among the very impressive field of dem candidates.
Obama has many excellent qualities too. I could list them but they just don't quite go as deep as the list above so I won't. It would look like damning with faint praise and I don't want to do that.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:49 AM
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8. Needs a rec please
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:06 AM
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9. New Rasmussen poll; Obama down 4, Clinton up 3. O 46 C 45.
New Rasmussen poll; Obama down 4, Clinton up 3. O 46 C 45.
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/ele...

Just yesterday it was Obama 50 and Clinton 42.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:17 PM
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20. clinton continues to lose ground to McCain in the general
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 PM by IrishBloodEngHeart
the only thing she is doing is attacking Obama. Her numbers aren't going up at all. Her only hope is to destroy Obama, which helps McCain.

from your link: "It appears that Clintons challenges to Obama may be helping McCain at least in the short-term. McCains polling numbers against Obama began improving during the run-up to the hard-fought Democratic Primaries in Ohio and Texas: "

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:54 PM
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37. stop with the 'destroying" language--it is very divisive and not true and you know it.
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:14 PM
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41. if you prefer I will say "destroy Obama's candidacy" but
surely you agree that is what Penn and the campaign have been trying to do. Isn't that what the "kitchen sink" is all about?
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:08 PM
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39. that does not imply causation
just because two things happen at the same time, one cannot assume a causational relationship.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 AM
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10. ******LOVELY photos
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 PM by rodeodance

























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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 PM
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11. They were suspose to in the OP--but too late to edit. Enjoy
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:26 PM
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26. She Shines!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:16 PM
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19. Thank You Rodeo
That's My Girl.GO HILLARY!You Make Me PROUD. :dem:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 PM
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21. hope you looked at photes a few posts upstream and
thanks to bigtree.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 PM
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23. Narack is offering 4000 dollars for eduaction in return for communityservite better than debt relief
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:47 PM
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35. Out of his own pocket?
I wonder where he got that idea....hmmm.

Look he's a great guy.
But not for a president.
Not this year.
There's too much work to be done.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:26 PM
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25. That's our Gal!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:36 PM
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30. Bigtree's post --i am learning to insert the photos---too late today--tomorrow i will be quicker:-)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 PM
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:49 PM
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36. That's my kind of inspiration.
Someone who can get the important work done.
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