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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:31 AM
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I just heard Jesus hung out with whores and thieves.
Did he approve of everything they did or say? No. Did he love them anyway? Absolutely.

Just as Obama said in several statements, Pastor Wright has always preached the word of Jesus. Every time the right wing and HRC bring up this story it gives Obama the chance to go on television for free and explain that he follows the word of Jesus. He also has a track record of it. Jesus would not cheat or spew the negative hatred that Hillary has. Jesus would not authorize war. Jesus would not lie and take credit for something that he had very little to do with such as SCHIP.

I am tired of fighting all of these battles about the little gotcha things that have become pervasive in the political spectrum. Although I respect all the major religions that teach tolerance and love, I am a Christian. Therefore, my defense of Obama from now on boils down to this. He is the most Christian candidate from either party. He cares about the poor, peace and love towards everyone, no matter what their past is. This is congruent with Liberal ideals and always has been.

What we are seeing now is Pharisees Politics. That is, a bunch of hypocrites that are scared by someone that is stealing their thunder and threatening their hold on power. If Obama scares HRC, the rich and big corporations, then he is my candidate. Do I think Obama is the second coming? No, but he is the closest thing I have seen in a long time. If we are willing to throw him under the bus like they did to Jesus, then we deserve what we get. Remember, it was Jesus' heart that was so special; no experience required.

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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:33 AM
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1. jesus wouldnt do anything he didnt exist
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:34 AM
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2. Jesus wasn't running for President
And he got crucified.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:36 AM
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3. OK, so what exactly is your point, that Obama deseves this. n/t
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:37 AM
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4. Worse, Tax Collectors.
The only more morally bankrupt Romans wore purple robes.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:38 AM
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5. Thank you
I posted something similar the other day. Sheesh, I can't believe how much I reference Jesus and I'm not even a Christian lol. See that's someone that can bring people together. Like Obama!!
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:41 AM
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9. I think he should appeal to all religions. I see a lot of Ghandi in Obama.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:39 AM
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6. Obama is Jesus and Wright is the whore of Babylon?
Wright is certainly obsessed with sex it seems.
Very creepy
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:49 AM
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19. Wright would be that crazy John the Baptist, almost literally
He foretold the coming of Obama and now a woman has asked for his head on a platter.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 AM
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7. His speech was actually pretty incendiary at the time - it even got him killed.
He condemned the wealthy and religious leaders when they abused and misled the poor and said they would not enter the kingdom of heaven (what does that leave?)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 AM
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8. Remember... There is no cult aspect to the Obama camp!!!
Lolz
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM
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12. If you are saying Christianity is a cult, then I am a cultist.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:55 AM
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21. You are not by yourself. Some of these people who go on and on about
their lack of religion frankly are an embarrassment. Not they have no religious belief, as Americans they are certainly entitled to that, but they don't have enough sense to realize they are costing the democratic party valuable votes in November by insulting people who might otherwise vote democratic. Some things are better left unsaid.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:57 AM
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24. Actually, I am a pretty dedicated Catholic, merely commenting on the second coming stuff.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:01 AM
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28. I wasn't really referring to the end times, just Jesus in general.
Why are you not more offended with Hagge's words and posting about how McCain should denounce him, etc. Oh, I forgot, you are getting beat by Obama not McCain.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:44 AM
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35. I am gut sickened by Hagee and Parsley or whatever his name is, just as I am by Wrights statements.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:06 AM
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29. I left the Catholic church when I was 17. It was a little too "cultist" for me.
I'll bet your parents or your spouse was Catholic and that forced your decision. Denominational preference is usually predicated on such things. Me, I am a free thinker and actually made a choice just like I chose Obama. I guess that is why he attracts the more educated crowd and not the blind followers.

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 AM
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36. Thanks for attacking my religion. I appreciate that... and yes, that is sarcasm...
I don't appreciate you criticizing my faith at all. It is rude and uncalled for.

Also, my mother is an athiest, my father was a lax catholic if you must know. I have studied theology all of my life and have left and come back to my faith if you must know.

and you just got an iggy. kthnx.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:15 AM
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32. BTW, I wasn't attacking Catholics but simply pointing out the irony of the use
of the word cult then stating your denomination. That is why I don't go past the label of Christianity. I don't feel like denominations are necessary and just further divide us.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:58 AM
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25. I agree, I would never condemn someone that chooses atheism just as
I would not expect them to call me a cultist.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:40 AM
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34. I totally agree. It could very well cost us the election.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:41 AM
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10. And what was the deal with his mother? "immaculate conception" Try
telling that one to your parents these days.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM
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11. This sure helps to deflate the cult memo.
Obama is the closest thing to the second coming of Christ.

WOW!
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:44 AM
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14. Everything in life is relative. So while nobody can really meet the Jesus test
I am simply saying Obama is closer than anything I have seen as far as public figures.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:49 AM
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18. Read what I actually said then try to provide me an example in my relatively short lifetime
of someone that comes close to the Jesus test. I am sure they are out there but not many in public life.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:43 AM
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13. "I am tired of fighting all of these battles about the little gotcha things...."
Uncle Jeremiah Wrights's words as featured on practically every TV channel are "little gotcha things"? "God damn America" is a "little gotcha thing"?

Stop taking the Lord's name in vain. You are just hurting your candidate. And Uncle Jeremiah Wright is neither a whore nor a thief. But he is just another kind of racist.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:46 AM
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16. First of all, if I have to explain the "whore and thief" thing to you
you are beyond comprehension. Secondly, Obama didn't make those statements, Wright did.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 AM
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23. I didn't say Obama said "those things". No explanation needed. I understand what was said...
... by Uncle Jeremiah Wright. Read my post again.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:10 AM
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31. I know you didn't but are stating it is a big deal based on guilt by
association. HRC doesn't want to go there. She has a lot more questionable friends. We can start with Mark Rich and go on down the line to Hsu.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:46 AM
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15. He's gonna get crucified for this.
By next Friday. Just watch.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 AM
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22. Not funny. n/t
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:48 AM
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17. All Obama had to do was admit it and move on...
...why is the first instinct of these politicians to hide stuff?
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:51 AM
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20. Hide what? Do you not think it is possible he was never present when these things were said.
My parents have said things I am ashamed of. Do I disown them?
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:59 AM
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26. But Obama is a Muslim!
I think he has an opportunity to dispel the Muslim lie/innuendo once and for all.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:00 AM
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27. You get an Amen and a Hallelujah from my non religious ass - Pharisees Politics?
Pharisees Politics? PRICELESS

Recommended
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:07 AM
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30. Thanks, my alliteration for the day. n/t
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:28 AM
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33. Me? Why, I always try to look on the bright side."
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:05 AM
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37. Did he encourage his disciples to get politically involved? No.
Did he offer political solutions? No.

Did he want politics inside the synagogue? No.
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