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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:16 AM
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Obama: A disturbing pattern of dishonest statements
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:19 AM by pathansen
1. REV. WRIGHT: - How on earth could it be that Obama did NOT know about his pastors extreme anti-white and anti-American views after attending his church for 20 years? And why does he continue to go to that church? After getting caught, He has finally denounced Wrights teachings but has refused to denounce Wright himself.

2. REZKO: Obama has previously claimed that Rezkos campaign funding came to around $50,000-$60,000 and now we find out the funding is about 5 times more, around $250,000.

3. NAFTA At first the Obama campaign denied that such a meeting even took place. However, according to a Canadian memo, Obamas senior advisor secretly told Canadian government that there would be no major changes to NAFTA after Obama had repeatedly assured voters that he would do so.

4. OBAMAS PRESENT VOTES He has explained that the reason for voting present instead of taking a stand is because he did not want to offend his Illinois conservative base. Yet we later find out he was in a SAFE district.

5. Initially, he never disclosed his middle name. Someone else had to find out about it.

So, how many more surprises will there be before November? This is really troubling
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:22 AM
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1. You forgot Obama's Black love children.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:29 AM
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13. You Forgot Hillary Said She Would Release Her Tax Records
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:29 AM by From The Left
And Geraldine Ferraro played no role in her campaign

And didn't support NAFTA

And didn't vote for Bush's Iraq war

And didn't vote for the USA Patriot Act

And didn't vote for a flag burning amendment
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:23 AM
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That's the best you've got, and all of his stuff is public record.
Maybe when Hillary releases her White House papers or tax returns we'll be able to compare skeletons.

What's really troubling is how many people on DU are smearing our future nominee over weak trumped-up bullshit.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:27 AM
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12. Or what about her Dishonest statements about SCHIP, Foreign Experience, Etc?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:07 AM
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34. another one using the Rovian tactic of distracting from focus of OP.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:17 AM
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49. AP: Kennedy has admitted Hillary's support was crucial for getting SCHIP bill passed.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:23 AM
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2. WTF does his middle name have to do with ANYTHING! Stop scraping
the freeper boards for this garbage and posting it here.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:23 AM
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3. just for the record - Wright sounds like the old testament prophets
comdemning the social injustice of the powerful (ie letting the poor starve etc) except generally more mild. Its funny how Americans negate most of the old testament in favor of a shallow verbal only patriotism. I want America to be a just nation and will point out where its not - if I do that in a manner that offends does that make me unpatriotic or patriotic because I expect better from a great country.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:24 AM
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4. Wow, some of you people are all about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:08 AM
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35. Naftagate, Reszogate, and now Pastorgate. Yes, there is a pattern
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:24 AM
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5. #5 retards any salient point you were making.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:25 AM
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6. 4 Rec's For This Troll In A Matter Of Minutes Says It All About HRC Fanatics Here
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 AM
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8. You've made valid points and now the Obama supporters
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:27 AM by yadayadayada
will come on NOT to refute your points but joke about them or bash you in some way. Wait and see. They can't defend their candidate regarding your points so it will be cutsie red herring comments.

ETA, I didn't even get my reply posted and they were already here doing exactly what I said they would. Wow. ROTFLMAO
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 AM
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9. Name me ONE politician that is 100% honest.
I'm getting damned tired of seeing people turn every molehill into Mt. Everest. Obama hasn't been 100% truthful-true. Clinton hasn't been 100% truthful either. And neither is anyone else in the game.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:33 AM
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21. Bill Clinton did tell a lie but he got impeached for it.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:34 AM by pathansen
So, as we know, Democrats have to be a lot better than Republicans to survive.
That's why I think Obama is in trouble.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 AM
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10. more irrelevent bullshit from the hillary newbie squad nt
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:33 AM
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19. Most irrelevant but his "I didn't know about Wright" stuff
which he is obviously lying about.

Why not hit someone on the efficacy of their claims instead of attacking them on post count?

The fallacy of Ad Hominem
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:27 AM
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11. Thank you for your "troubledness."
We will give it all the consideration it is due by filing it in the proper location.

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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:29 AM
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14. He's just another status quo do and say anything to get elected politician.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:29 AM
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15. I guess where your candidate is weakest, pretend the oppenent is weaker?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:31 AM by izzybeans
Rezko is a Governer Blagojovic problem. There is no one in chicago politics that did not have dealings with this man. They are victims of his crimes. Blame the criminal.

Each and every one of those bullets are lies.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:31 AM
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17. OMG! That lout! Not disclosing his middle name! Standing
by a friend!! I never... :eyes:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 AM
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27. I noticed that many of the negative threads and posts are started by people with hidden profiles.
I wonder if there is a correlation?


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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 AM
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44. My Son, Japanese Middle Name
and wouldn't tell anyone what it was when he was younger. It's usually girls who want to know these things. Hopefully he's past that silly stage and can be proud of his funny middle name which has to do with his beloved granny.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:32 AM
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18. It goes to JUDGEMENT and WORDS MATTER
on Wright, Rezco and NAFTA, the combination is politically fatal

if not in the primary in the GE


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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:35 AM
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23. You DO know it was the CLINTON campaign that contacted the...
...Canadian govt in regards to NAFTA, don't you? :eyes:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:37 AM
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25. I did read that, but it did not get the press coverage - America votes on perception
and they have a short attention span
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM
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29. So, you still support your candidate after she flat-out LIED to you...
...about the Canadian NAFTA thing?

Wow, talk about a CULT... :eyes:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:12 AM
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47. never did support Hillary
not every dem is in the Obama or Hillary camp

I was all for Obama, not anymore
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:33 AM
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20. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are utter bullshit...
It's been out for at least two weeks that it was the CLINTON campaign that had secret talks with the Canadian Govt. As far as mis middle name, do YOU tell everyone you meet about YOUR middle name? His middle name was NO secret - he had to put it on all disclosure forms.

In regards to his "present" votes, read up on Illinois legislature procedures:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18...

Rezko was a "bundler" of donations. That means he only collected the money.

The Wright story is over. Obama explained himself fully last night on all three cable news nets.

I can't believe an OP so patently false got 5 recs. :eyes:

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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:35 AM
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22. Clinton and NAFTA didn't get the press
out of sight out of mind

America votes on perception

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:38 AM
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26. Yes it did...
Perhaps you shouldn't cover your eyes and ears when negative stories about Clinton appear on TV or in print.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM
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28. I am numb to all the negative press of the Clintons
I was sick of them in 92

If it got the same press it didn't show in Ohio
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:10 AM
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36. Too bad it was Mr. BO who called a press conf. about naftagate--then ducked out.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:16 AM
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48. yes it is, and it has been compared to McCain's press conference after the NYT
article about the lobbyist, he stood and took questions until the reporters didn't have any more questions

Obama walked out after 8 questions




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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:36 AM
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24. The Dreaded Kitchen Sink
Let's pretend that all of your accusations are true. How does all of that compare to just one thing that Clinton did - aid and abet the attack of Iraq? She cared so little about the truth of the situation that she didn't bother to read the NIE. She was quite willing to spend blood and treasure for perceived political gain.

(And speaking of names... how about Clinton's claim that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary - who was an unknown beekeeper in New Zealand when she was born?)
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:46 AM
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30. Extreme Anti-American views . . that our foreign policy created an environment that bred terrorism
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:47 AM by loindelrio
This place resembles the unnamed more and more each day.

DU - Home of the Super-PatriotTM . . American FIRST . . We're No. 1 . . We Can Do No Wrong

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 AM
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31. The lies involving your point 1 will be exposed with tapes and video.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 AM by MNDemNY
Obama's own action A YEAR AGO to distance himself from the "good pastor" is very convincing evidence that he is lying. His lying explanation is too little , too late, and packed with yet more lies.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:58 AM
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32. Barack is a busy guy he wouldn't be there regular.Plus half white he is agianst this clearly.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:22 AM
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41. Is English
not your first language? Your use of it makes no sense whatsoever.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:58 AM
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33. "A thief you can keep your eyes on but a liar you can never trust" - my mother......
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:34 AM by ElsewheresDaughter


and Obama is a liar!



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:13 AM
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37. "He is nothing but a crook"--my dad
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:20 AM
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39. That explains a lot. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:27 AM
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42. it sure does--he has Bo pegged.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:15 AM
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38. I'm not disturbed by that
nor troubled.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:21 AM
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40. Exactly. He lies and lies and the media asks no questions.
I was stunned at Olberman, almost apologetic in his minimal questioning of him. He was giving him a pulpit to lie. So much for journalistic integrity.

The media has chosen our candidate.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:28 AM
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43. I'm switching my vote to McCain right now!!!!!11111
:rofl:
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:58 AM
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45. And Obama closed a child welfare office and supported a casino by
mistakenly pushing the wrong button in the state senate.

His house purchase is very suspect.He buys back a small strip of the Rezco lot.Making the remaining lot less desirable for development.Its then sold to Rezcos lawyer who will never develop it because its all Obamas yard.

He takes "no Lobby or PAC money".Which is a lie.And implies he is less influenced by big business when in fact he takes as much from big business as Hillary.


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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:59 AM
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46. The time bomb is ticking on Billary's tax returns!!!!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:26 AM
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50. You mean like, "I was simply voting to let the UN inspectors do their job..."
...even though the UN inspectors had DONE their job and told us there were NO stockpiles of weapons?

Sort of like that?

NGU.


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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:33 AM
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51. disabled profile? check low post count? check
right wing talking points? check. New Hillary supporter ? check. Mark Penn's 11 million dollar check.
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