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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:10 AM
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Sorry people, criminals don't donate $250,000 to politicians for nothing
Just a matter of time before we learn all of the corruption that Obama was involved in on this one.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:12 AM
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1. That's three.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:31 AM
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23. bombs away.....
too bad they're all duds.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:16 AM
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2. You say that as if it's not a matter of public record.
Do you honestly think if there was a big quid pro quo we wouldn't have heard about it? People have been gunning for Obama for years, if the Chicago media hasn't found it covering their local issues, it's not there.
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Smelting Pot Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:22 AM
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3. Rezko didn't "donate $250,000"
He helped raise up to $250,000 total for Obama's various political races. The campaign has said, "We reviewed our records for any contributions we believe could reasonably be credited to Mr. Rezko's political support and that is the generous estimate we concluded upon." So, that $250,000 does not even all come directly THROUGH Rezko. It includes all contributions they think are credited to his political support: friends and associates of Tony Rezko. All of that money has been donated to charity. NONE of it was collected in conjunction with Obama's presidential race.

The AP has this to say (empahsis mine):
Rezko is on trial on charges including mail fraud and attempted extortion. Federal prosecutors say he tried to use his connections to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to demand kickbacks from companies wanting to do business with state government.
Obama is not accused of any wrongdoing.


HE IS NOT INVOLVED OR ACCUSED OF ANYTHING!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:35 AM
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5. You're wasting your breath.These people aren't seeking facts.
However, I appreciate your efforts.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:56 AM
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15. And on top of that!
Has Hillary gone through and thoroughly scrutinized her records to see which donations to he 3 political campiagns were/might have been/could have been tied to her supporters who are in jail/under suspicion/guilty but pardoned? I doubt it. But you better well believe that the repugs have those records and will trot them out in, say, early October.

Good for Barack to go through and sanitize everything now.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:17 AM
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22. over 10 years
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:37 AM
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25. yesterday Barack Obama's Chicago Tribune interview .....tanscripts
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:38 AM by ElsewheresDaughter



Barack Obama's Tribune interview

Obama lied to us back when and he is still lying to save his ass


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obamafu...




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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:25 AM
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4. How about Vinod Gupta's bankrolling of both Clintons?
Largess To Clintons Lands CEO In Lawsuit
Case Is a Window On Couple's Ties

By Matthew Mosk and John Solomon
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, May 26, 2007; A01

For the past four years, the Clintons have jetted around on Vinod Gupta's corporate plane, to Switzerland, Hawaii, Jamaica, Mexico -- $900,000 worth of travel. The former president secured a $3.3 million consulting deal with Gupta's technology firm. His presidential library got a six-figure gift, too.

Gupta, whose big donations to the Democratic Party earned him a Lincoln Bedroom overnight when Bill Clinton was president, has emerged as a key benefactor of Clinton's post-presidency -- and Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential candidacy.

Gupta's generosity toward the Clintons has proved so controversial within his firm -- a major provider of database-processing services -- that it prompted a shareholder lawsuit complaining that hiring the former president was a "waste of corporate assets."

The dispute over Gupta's bankrolling of the Clintons offers new detail about how successfully Bill Clinton has leveraged the inner circle of donors he cultivated during his tenure in the White House to his personal financial benefit since he left office. In addition, it suggests the degree to which Hillary Clinton's political career is also benefiting from those connections.

more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:38 AM
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7. You are off focus--go start another thread and stop spaming this one
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:44 AM
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8. Looks on topic to me. OP is duscussing donors. Poster commented.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:48 AM
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9. Are you the "focus" police? n/t
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:54 AM
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14. Stay Focused I Tell You!!!



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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:12 AM
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19. You know, every time we try to point out that Clinton always seems to have...
...a worse and more damaging version of any scandal connected to Obama, you keep calling on us to "focus" on the "topic of the thread". But this is exactly the important point: there is literally no scandal I have seen connected to Obama that doesn't have a much worse analogy in Team Clinton.

Rezko? Hsu. And Rich. And Gupta.
Pastorgate? "The Fellowship".
Spouse distracting from the campaign? Don't even get me started.

A lot of us are sincerely trying to warn Clinton supporters that if she gets the nomination, her media free ride is over: they'll start questioning her experience, her connections to Hsu, Rich, Gupta, et al, her husband's philandering, the library donors, pardongate, hell, they'll probably dig back into Whitewater. This isn't lack of focus. This isn't distraction. This is pointing out that on the question of transparency, ethics, and accountability Obama has shown himself to be much stronger than Clinton.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:38 AM
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6. Google HSU, among others. And as someone else said,
he was a campaign fundraiser, but in your quest for truth, you must have missed that. :eyes:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:56 AM
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10. Also it wouldn't hurt to google the Tan family
in relation to Clintons and Abramoff/Greenberg-Taurig
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:37 AM
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11. Hsu?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 AM
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12. And neither do media conglomerates and global corporations
So pick your poison. At least the mob has a code of honor.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:42 AM
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13. Thats right. Makes you wonder what Hsu was doing on that Amtrak train.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:05 AM
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16. 1/4 of that which criminal Hsu raised (not donated) for Hillary
Just a matter of time.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:07 AM
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17. Agreed. Mark Rich did it for a pardon
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:22 AM by dmesg
Rezko, apparently, didn't get his money's worth since Obama kept opposing his casino developments.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:17 AM
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21. OUCH! and don't forget Scooter Libby was Rich's lawyer.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:10 AM
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18. You didn't really think this thread would help Clinton did you?
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:14 AM
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20. They don't get presidential pardons for free either; Hillary's bro was paid 400k
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 11:16 AM by Melinda
to get 2 of his criminal buddies pardoned by Bill, all in violation of law (the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995). But you knew that already, din't cha. That nutty Hugh Rodham. :eyes:
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:32 AM
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24. He didn't donate $250,000. Get the facts before spewing bullshit on DU.
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