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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:19 AM
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I remain hopeful about life, and that includes Obama's candidacy.
I was just thinking about how, realistically, Obama's message, &
the grass-roots political participation he has inspired, has not
changed and will not change on account of all the rw and Clinton-
supporters' spin about Wright, Rezko.

The message, and the energy of his supporters, is the most important
factor for the Democratic party's future. Superdelegates with a brain
and an eye for the future understand this, and know what it will take
to win in November.

Those who spin and play in the dirt are missing the bigger picture.
People really like Obama. They like what he has to say and the
vision he offers the country. The more people hear from him, the
more this is true. There is not all that much dirt to throw at him
because for a politician, his hands are pretty clean.

Hillary is smart and has many good ideas but doesn't have the
transparency, nor the wide appeal. All of this current negativity
reminds me of dogs barking at the moon.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:22 AM
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1. Yeah. What you said
. . perfectly.Thanks.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:29 AM
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5. Thank you.. will appreciate a rec if you have one to spare. nt
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:35 AM
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8. Well, I managed to find one :-) n/t
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:41 AM
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15. Thanks! Hope on a Saturday morning makes it to the greatest page.
That's a good sign.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:22 AM
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2. Kicking my own thread, and hope you will too. nt
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:23 AM
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3. Its a mistake to put someone on a pedestal
they always will let you down in the end.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:28 AM
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4. I agree, nobody should be on a pedestal.
Here's a good clip if you're an open minded person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNklqW2cvVk

"Folks get away with murder in Washington because nobody's paying attention."
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:33 AM
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6. I wish we heard more from him than some defense of a supporter.
I'm so sick of the way our media reports on campaigns.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:37 AM
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9. Agree. But I think every exposure he has in the media, even if it's having to
respond to attacks, gives people exposure to him and where he is
coming from.

People who are looking for reasons to hate him will always find
reasons; but people who are the least bit open minded are and
will be increasingly impressed.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:34 AM
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7. Well I feel like we are being held hostage by radicals!
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 AM
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14. What do you mean, held hostage by radicals?
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:37 AM
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10. The loftiness of Obama is now tainted because of his obvious lies last night. nt
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:38 AM
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11. LOL yadayadayada. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:39 AM
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12. K&R for a great post
Wonderfully said.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:02 AM
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13. another kick for a great post
(already recommended -- would do it again if I could!)
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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 AM
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16. Frankly, I like Obama a lot less than I did three days ago...
and I'm confident that's the case for millions of Americans.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:09 AM
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17. You like him less, because?
I'm not confident it's true for the majority.
Wait a bit. The muck gets stirred up and nobody can see clearly;
but it settles and that which is authentic and good for this country
will be seen clearly again, at least by anyone with eyes open.

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:40 PM
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18. Frankly
I doubt you liked him that much three days ago either. I do not see what he did or said that would make him less "likable" to those who understand what he stands for. He is not perfect, nobody is. And this whole thing and the way it is picked up and dissected by the media could be hurtful, there is no denying that. But I honestly do not see how it changes Obama's message, nor how it makes him less trustworthy.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:43 PM
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19. what a fickle person you are. so, if someone you know is a thief
and they are close to you, does that make you a thief too? Guilt by association, another great american virtue. Not.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:56 PM
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22. I said it before and I'll say it again
the picture in your sig is one of the sweetest things I ever saw :-).
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:44 PM
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20. I like Obama as much as I ever did. He's my choice for President.
I have no control over the American electorate but I hope they are wise enough to see beyond this "guilt by association" smear. I don't agree with Wright's comments but it's clear to me that Wright has done FAR, FAR more good than bad for this country.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:05 PM
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23. Yes
That's one of many problems, the tendency to see things as black or white, and ignore that most everything in life is some darker or lighter shade of gray. I find Wright's comments disturbing on many levels (some just plain silly), primarily because I am "uniter" and statements that stress the differences rather than what we all have in common offend and disturb me. But then I do not bear the scars that may explain such comments, and therefore I realize that I cannot fully understand and even less judge.

If the media had any sense of fairness, they should air excerpts from Rev. Wright's other sermons, I am sure they could find plenty of examples that most would find uplifting and would have no problem agreeing with.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 PM
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21. K & R
:thumbsup:
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