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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:51 AM
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Are Wright's sermons the campaign WMD that the GOP need to win
If the GOP and its surrogates could drag down a bona fide war hero what will they do with this material in the fall?

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:52 AM
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1. Of course not.
You'd think Obama said the things himself from the way you carry on.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:07 AM
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3. So you don't think the GOP will be able to use them
to attack him in effective ways in the fall?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:08 AM
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5. Why will they have to, when you will do the job for them now?
How about focusing on the real enemy for a change instead of figuring out new and inventive ways to justify their lunacy?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:13 AM
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8. Keep your accusations to yourself. This is primary season and
personally I find Wright's rants hate filled and disturbing in many many ways. (I am bit shocked at the close association of Obama with such crap truth be told.)
The real enemy is the GOP. We have to win in November. We can't win with a wounded warrior. I don't think this stuff is going away.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:15 AM
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9. Hillary is far more flawed than Obama.
She can't even beat him, so exactly how is she supposed to beat McCain?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:08 AM
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22. Just close your eyes and hope really, really, really hard.
That'll win the election for us!

We'll be just like Pollyanna playing the Glad Game!
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:54 AM
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2. americans for the most part have learned their lesson
from the swift boating of last election. They are somewhat more honest in their deeply held views of right and wrong then the typical Clinton supporter on this board.

So I say no.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:29 AM
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17. Would be nice. And I wish. One test of their maturity will be
when they are ready to elect an atheist for president.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:07 AM
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4. I'm dying over here! You people slay me!
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 AM by TwoSparkles
You couldn't dig up enough dirt on Obama, so now you're going after the people
that he knows.

Gee. Doesn't this look a bit pathetic?

What's next..."Story at 11! Obama's dog groomer gets parking ticket!"

I have a good friend who is an Evangelical Christian. Her teenage daughters
babysit my children. She believes all of the right-wing nonsense that is
thrown out there about Obama, and we often have very spirited discussions.

Two nights ago I asked her, "About a month ago, you were concerned that Obama
was a Muslim, you don't still think that do you?"

She replied, "No. Obama explained all of that, but now I'm concerned about his
pastor and his church."

So, here we go again---another lathered up scandal that has, once again--taken in
some people, like my friend.

But you know what? This pastor thing will become yesterdays debunked, old-news, scandal
that will affect NO ONE--within a week or so. Just like the, "Obama is a Muslim"
garbage, this pastor chapter will be filed into the trash heap and written off as another
failed Hillary ploy.

And then...in a week or two--after this manufactured hysteria is deflated--you'll come
up with something else.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

It's all Hillary has got. All she can do is attack, and follow the Rovian playbook--and hope that
she can shred "hope" and "change" through lies, distortions and puffed-up rumormongering.

It's official, the Hillary campaign is no longer a political organization...it's a sorority house!

You just can't make this stuff up, folks! Desperation brings out the loony tunes in some people.

:rofl:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 AM
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6. Not a "you people" here. Just one person
who really wants to win in November. My main aim is to get a democrat in the WH in 2009. What's yours?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:11 AM
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7. I was addressing the OP's nonsense...
...but replied to you. Please accept my apologies. I haven't had
my coffee yet.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:19 AM
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12. To get someone nominated who can fucking beat that POS McCain.
That is why when JRE dropped out, I went Obama. Hillary is a loser.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:17 AM
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10. No
and no
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:18 AM
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11. No, don't be stupid! n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:20 AM
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13. There's no need to be fearful - Obama isn't.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:58 AM
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18. Really? He didn't look too confident last night.
He was stammering, backpedaling. The gleam in his eye was gone. Deer in the headlights.

Bake
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:01 AM
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19. Lol - you have quite an imagination!
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:11 AM
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24. actually on fox he looked scared as hell, on CNN it was a bit better, but not by much.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:17 AM
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26. I saw him on Fox, CNN and msnbc and didn't think he seemed scared at all.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:21 AM
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14. Article VI U.S. Constitution
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:22 AM by SunsetDreams
Article. VI. - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:27 AM
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16. Have you informed the electorate of this constitution thingy?
I understand Obama was brought up atheist by his mother who sounds like a truly amazing woman.

Personally I wish he had stuck to his roots and not gone down this religious route.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:22 AM
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15. no because
the Democrats can bring up all sorts of vile quotes from people of the cloth that support McCain.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:01 AM
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20. Impossible to know at this point
but the comparison to Kerry is a poor one. JK set himself up for that one- I knew that the minute he did the ghastly "reporting for duty" thing at the convention. And he failed to respond well to attacks. Obama, I believe, is a better politician than JK, but we'll see over the next couple of weeks.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:02 AM
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21. Well, on one hand you have McCain, who sat in the hole for
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:03 AM by lizzy
I don't know how many years. Many are gonna agree McCain is a patriot. On the other hand, you have someone whose pastor says "God damn America."
I dunno.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:11 AM
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23. all they have to do is play one of those videos with some text about obama over it... done.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:15 AM
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25. Well, just my opinion, but
When I watched the videos of Rev. Wright it scared me quite a bit. How that will effect voters in general I have no idea but I just know how I felt seeing them.
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