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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:44 AM
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No Person With An Ounce Of Black Blood Could Ever Run
for President according to some posters here because I can guarantee nearly all of them would be members of he same kind of church.

The fact is, lots of us white, progressive liberals agree with a whole lot these black preachers say.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:48 AM
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1. Apparently Obama denies ever hearing any of that stuff at that church.
It all happened while he wasn't there & never knew it was happening. It's all news to him.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:52 AM
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2. 20 Years Of Preaching And They Had What
5 minutes of "controversial" quotes. Most of which I agreed with. I think he could have missed those. I've missed years of *'s speeches and he is sadly my President.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:55 AM
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3. Imagine the coincidence, one time in 20 years & they had filmed it.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 02:58 AM by The_Casual_Observer
What are the chances of that? My my. Your point seemed to be in defense of that kind of hate speech, & now you are saying that it probably only happened a few times?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:58 AM
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4. You are calling him a liar with no proof.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 AM
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10. Apparently that wright guy was notorious for that shit. Yet Obama
as of this evening claims to have no knowledge of any of it until the video surfaced, after a close association of more than a decade. So sure, I'm calling him a liar.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:12 AM
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17. According to Hannity? And What Chit?
Give me some of the chit he said that we on DU haven't been saying for years.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 AM
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21. Forget it, it's about Obama acting like this is all a big surprise to him.
His bad uncle double crossed him when he wasn't looking.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 AM
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28. You Must Have No Family Or Friends
or that wouldn't surprise you.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:27 AM
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29. Hows that? That I would have a crazy uncle that I hung out with for 17 years & didn't know
he was crazy until somebody showed a video?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:29 AM
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31. Wright Is Not Crazy At All, Just Speaks His Mind
You better hope none of your relatives or friends run.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:31 AM
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33. & he kept that mind away from Obama the whole time. Multiple
personalities.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:51 AM
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36. Nope Just An American.
Most of us live multiple lives, loving spouse, career, parent, child, aunt or uncle, niece or nephew etc.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:21 AM
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25. 5 minutes, in 170,000 minutes of preaching ...
The probability laws are in Obama's favor. So unless the MSM comes up with a proof that he was sitting there during the "God Damn America" statement. You have no grounds.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:35 AM
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35. Randi was saying that this sermon was a Christmas sermon.
Should be easy to figure out if Obama was visiting relatives or on vacation or doing something else that Christmas.

What was the year?
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WinOneAlready Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 AM
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11. But there is proof
He had previously expressed concerns to Wright. That is a matter of record. You have to question the judgment of someone that would have a person like that on his campaign committee.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:22 AM
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26. Was that before or after the story initially came out
Please note, that htis story was actually out month ago.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 AM
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5. Casual Accuser
Pitiful. You have no proof of the crap you spew.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 AM
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13. The more he says about this thing the worse it gets.
He's too stupid to lie on his feet about it. Sure, he didn't know anything about it until the video suddenly pops up, then it's straight over to Olbermann with a denial.
Go ahead, keep defending the idiot if you want to.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:08 AM
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14. No coincidence. His DVDs were sold online--they taped ALL his services.
They sold his "greatest hits" in the church bookstore. Visa, Mastercard or Discover cards only, thanks much. That's where those images came from, his DVDs.

It wasn't an accident. They made MONEY off it.

You can see the week's service at the website, and you can watch the Sunday service live on the net.

The "chances of that" are a hundred percent--they have the entire church "wired" because they SELL the videos. That's why they have so many camera angles--the cameras are welded to the rafters. They have a whole production outfit to record those services.

Obama used to listen to tapes of Rev. Wright when he was at Harvard Law.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:11 AM
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16. Apparently Obama has the mystic power of selective perception.
Never saw it, knew nothing of it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:21 AM
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24. I don't know if they treat the TUCC Big Money donors like PBS does.
But you'd think they'd send him a set of DVDs for tossing twenty five grand into the pot last year...

He'd better hope he's not in one of those crowd shots during the service. Or if he was there, he's leaning back in his seat, eyes closed, mouth open, and .... snoring!
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:27 AM
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30. Gosh, Casual, I Think I Have Missed Some Of Your Posts
I sure hope my jury isn't made up of your clones.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:11 AM
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15. They Film All Of Them
to sell to the Congregation later. What the hell are you implying? That Faux news snuck in there and filmed it 17 years ago?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:13 AM
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18. You'd better hope that you are right about it being the only 5 mins
of that shit then.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 AM
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20. You Still Haven't Told Me What Chit
Most of it was true. And the rest could be.
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:04 AM
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12. ABC said there where plenty of examples .You may eat your words.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:14 AM
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19. Will You Eat Yours If Wrong Or Will You Pull A Hillary? nt
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WinOneAlready Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:02 AM
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8. I agree... that's just not believable
The only way a person could believe that was if they were never the member of a church. And his concern about Wright was well known before this by his own admission. I have to wonder why he would have him as part of his campaign knowing Wright's beliefs.
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WinOneAlready Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:00 AM
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6. I sure don't agree with it
I left a church once because I thought they were teaching hate rather than teaching the bible. It was hard, but I couldn't let my children be exposed to such talk. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him taking his children to such a place.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 AM
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22. Perhaps You Should Leave DU Too
since so many of us have said the same things Wright has.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:23 AM
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27. Where Was He Teaching Hate? He Was Preaching Reality
as he sees it. Do you know anyone you consider to be right 100% of the time? If he was right 90% of the time should Obama leave the church? Why wouldn't he just say he didn't agree with that like most of us do?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:01 AM
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7. Don't tell the ghosts of Abe Lincoln or Warren G. Harding!
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:03 AM
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9. Colin Powell or Condleeza dont attend that type of church and could win elections,God forbid
What Wright means is probably true.The problem is that no one in the mainstream hears anything except "God Damn America".
After that statement just get ready to fist fight.
"Fuck your mother" is less divisive.

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:20 AM
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23. Pretty Sure They Have But Repukes Aren't Stupid Enough
to bring it up and we wouldn't dare bring it up against anyone but our own.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:32 AM
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34. No. Powell is Anglican/Episcopalian. VERY "mainline." And liturgical.
Per this cite: http://www.nndb.com/people/649/000022583 /

According to this AMAZON review, Rice is a Presbyterian...that's VERY mainline and liturgical, that, as well. And she has clergy in her family as well: http://www.amazon.com/Faith-Condoleezza-Rice-Leslie-Mon...
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:55 AM
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37. Well Good For Them. I Guess Repukes Can Run The First
Black traitors that you would support. I personally don't care what they belong to, they suck. Apparently, you care more about there religion than there politics.

I think that you just made the argument against this BS for me.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:30 AM
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32. Now that's ridiculous
Ham handed and shallow.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 AM
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38. Can you list the black )or white or Latino for that matter) major politicians with a racist pastor?
Here is the list:























Barack Obama
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:09 AM
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39. "Black Hood"!! Criminy! I'm sorry. What a crock...
Right when some thought it wouldn't get any lower...it does
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