Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I now hope if/when Obama wins the nomination he picks Hillary as VP, or...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:55 PM
Original message
I now hope if/when Obama wins the nomination he picks Hillary as VP, or...
has her as a senior advisor at least. Like her or not, she is tough as nails and her and her people know exactly how to respond to issues in the most politically beneficial way possible, and know how to turn any issue around on the other side, I believe. Maybe I'm a lot like her and that's why I don't like her lol, but I believe she really doesn't take shit from anyone and knows how to fight things that Republicans attack with. She also isn't afraid to pounce on any issue that she thinks will advantage her. This can be something to be looked down on, but it could also be something to be admired.

Of course I don't believe she should be the President, so please dont accuse me of wanting her to be President now. I'm just saying, it may not be the worst thing if she gets the VP. I at least hope she is one of his senior advisors, when it comes to responding to Republican hit jobs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. No Hillary! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:59 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'd Accept It But I Still Think We Could Do Better nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. She wouldn't be my first choice of course originally.
But I think that with the potential Republican and right wing attacks that could be leveled against him, he would need someone like Hillary to respond, and I think she knows more about right wing attacks than Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I Have To Admit That As A Team They'd Rock
but the attacks would have to stop now for any chance at it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
3. No thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
4. You really don't understand how much she has PISSED OFF people do you?
We number in the thousands in my community. If you multiply our numbers across the country--we are a force!

AND OUR BOTTOM LINE IS---ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NO H-I-L-L-A-R-Y on any ticket, in any position, at any time in the next year, PERIOD!!!!

Got it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. She has pissed off many, but believe me the important thing in Nov.
is making sure McCain does not become President. If Hillary can help make sure that does not happen, I think it should be considered.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. SHE IS FINISHED THIS SEASON!
Got it? She is not going to be a democratic VP candidate. Obama will choose someone with vast military and foreign policy experience to counter McCain. Hillary offers neither!

She'll be lucky to retain her Senate seat in four years when it's up for re-election after her dismal performace in this campaign. God help you New Yorkers! That's all I have to say! (She's not my favorite and if I lived in NY I'd be hoping for a better Senator candidate than her next time around!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 AM
Original message
She is not finished if she convinces superdelegates that this Jeremiah thing will be a huge problem.
But even if she doesn't, I think there are too many Democrats who really love Hillary for her to just go away, and what my point is, is that she is a fighter who really wants to win like nothing else. I think she will be good for Obama at least as a senior advisor during the campaign...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. She is not finished if she convinces superdelegates that this Jeremiah thing will be a huge problem.
But even if she doesn't, I think there are too many Democrats who really love Hillary for her to just go away, and what my point is, is that she is a fighter who really wants to win like nothing else. I think she will be good for Obama at least as a senior advisor during the campaign...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #4
22. Well you don't get to pick
Obama has pissed off a lot of people, too, but I'd love for him to be the VP choice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
6. Nah. McCain will pick Hillary for VP. NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #6
25. Does McLame want to lose 49 states?
Because no Republican nor Democrat would vote for that ticket. Hope you're right though, that would certainly be fun to watch, plus a Dem would win in November. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
8. Not as VP
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM by DJ13
When Hillary claimed McCain has more experience than Obama that now forces Obama to choose a VP that actually HAS real foreign policy experience that cant be questioned.

Hillary doesnt meet that standard, as even half her own party doesnt think she has any experience.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM
Response to Original message
10. Hillary has lost her message and her mojo
traded in for a scummy kitchen sink.
Too bad she sunk herself with it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:06 AM
Response to Original message
11. OMG
I mean OMFG
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:08 AM
Response to Original message
12. NO THANKS! Don't need another politician w/ an "at all cost" mentality
We already have one in office. NO MAS, por favor!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:08 AM
Response to Original message
13. I favor her for Secretary of Defense. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:13 AM
Response to Original message
15. Senate majority leader at best.
VP, no.

She wrecked her chance at the VP slot by going so negative so early.

Obama should pick someone with foreign policy cred. Joe Biden might be a good choice.

- as
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 AM
Response to Original message
16. No. No Hillary. Obama has many better candidates to choose as his V.P.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:14 AM
Response to Original message
17. I am convinced she does not have the publics best interest ahead of her own.
I'm sure many politicians are the same way. But besides that I think the VP should be a white older man who is respected on foreign policy issues and who will give the soccer moms and white working class folks the comfy cozy feeling they seem to like.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 AM
Response to Original message
19. She'd sabatoge his campaign,
unintentionally or otherwise, and he can't be unaware of that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Yup. She can't be trusted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:17 AM
Response to Original message
21. No thanks... If she is anywhere near the whitehouse - there will be a no vote from me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:27 AM
Response to Original message
23. Well, if she's so good, why is she losing? Could it be....
that someone else is BETTER?

Could it be that "someone else" is tougher, without appearing overbearing?

Could it be that "someone else" turns things around in his favor, without it even seeming he's doing it?

Could it be that "someone else" knows how to fight against attacks by Republicans or anyone else?

It would seem so. Actually, it is obviously so. She seems tough because she lets it show too much that she is straining. You THINK she successfully fights against attacks because you can SEE her fighting. You can see the fatigue in her eyes, the strain in her voice. You can hear the incredulous, sometimes nonsensical arguments she makes for or against something. You think, "Hey, what a fighter." But really what you are seeing is someone merely standing, saying things others tell her to say, trying to be something that she is not.

That is why she is losing, I suppose.

The two of them cannot be on the same ticket, IMO. The Clintons crossed a line when they told the voters to vote for McCain, if she didn't win the nomination.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:30 AM
Response to Original message
24. she is compromised and corrupt
she has traded her principles for political power.

She would detract from and dilute an Obama Administration.

Please don't fall for this. That is what they are stalling for.
They are trying to bully their way onto Obama's ticket using her supporters and donors as bargaining chips.
We must not cave in to this manipulation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 AM
Response to Original message
26. Obama doesn't owe her shit
Give her a box of Kleenex.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 02:37 AM
Response to Original message
27. And what has her "toughness" gotten her?
She's losing the race. She's totally alienated a good portion of Dem voters. The Repukes still hate her. The IWR/Kyle-Lieberman -- her war "toughness" -- is a monkey on her back.

No thanks. She's damaged goods. We don't need her attitude poisoning the well any more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
28. I may not be the worst thing if she gets the VP..
...but it's totally unnecessary, so why even float the idea of her on the ticket. She totally taints Obama's message of integrety, open government, and replacing old politics of the 90s with the new style. Buh-bye, ol' girl.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul 31st 2014, 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC