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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:30 PM
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E-mail your super delegates and tell them "No to racism, no to Hillary".
Do it this weekend so we can end this catastrophe of a nightmare of a campaign.

Major Hogwash
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:31 PM
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1. E-mail your super delegates and tell them "No to racism, no to Obama".
And his racist church and mentor.

OOPS. Goes both ways, huh?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:49 PM
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9. kick
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:33 PM
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2. Email a superdelegate?
Is there a list of them? And which one is "mine?"
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:34 PM
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6. heres a list.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:33 PM
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3. If you want to say no to racism, say no to Obama and Rev. Wright.nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:35 PM
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7. Rev. Jeremiah Wright's America - Home of the Brave, Land of the Free
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:34 PM
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4. You are fucking kidding me, right?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:44 PM
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8. Nope, I think the OP is quite serious actually and I think he/she is correct....
It's time for the Hillary campaign and supporters to call it a day and lets get on with fighting McCain... Hillary will be ok in the Senate for at least this term, but my money is not on the next one of course.... I seriously think she should take Bill by the hand and run off into the sunset together... (ugh... retirement, is so great)
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:17 AM
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16. You want to label Hillary a racist so Obama can win? Is that what you're saying?
The OP is correct?

"No to racism - no to Hillary" - ???

You said you agree with that.

You really agree with that?

Paint Hillary a racist so Obama can win?

You know what, I don't want anything to do with that kinda hope and change.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:05 PM
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54. She did it to herself with her race-baiting.
NT!

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:49 PM
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10. The nutroots crowd wants HRC out at all costs.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:12 AM
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15. nut roots? Sounds delicious! I love nuts. Brazil nuts are my favorite. I like root crops too.
Carrots are delicous. Am partial to beets.

I am curious to what a nut root is. But it sounds like a culinary concept we all should explore!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 AM
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They do, they want her OUT, NOW! Know what......
fuck them.




I just crossed some line, didn't I?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:41 AM
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27. Is that what you say to the troops that come home from Iraq "Fuck em"?
You are nothing but a jackass.

SKIP INTRO!
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:51 AM
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34. nutroots huh?
how very ditto-head of you.
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:26 AM
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31. The true colors of Obamabots are showing
Suspected it all along calling everyone in the world a racist.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:34 PM
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5. Funny. I've been emailing them that about Obama for months.
No to race baiting, no to Obama. Wonder which they'll go for? Probably whichever gives them the best chance to get reelected.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:51 PM
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11. Could you at least suggest "No to Racism, yes to Obama"?
Do you not see how it further deepens a racial divide to link opposing Racism with opposing a specific white woman? Hillary Clinton is not the cause of racism in America.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM
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14. I didn't say she was the cause of racism, Tom. She's just the one using it to divide us.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:04 AM by Major Hogwash
She's using it like a sledge hammer, and I'm done wasting my time waiting for her to drop out.

Almost 4000 troops have been killed in the Iraq War.
A whole lot of us veterans are on the verge of being recalled, especially if McCain gets into the White House.

This is my country, too.
I served in the military and I fought in the Persian Gulf War.
I don't want to get ordered to go back.
I don't want anyone else to get ordered to go back.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:53 PM
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12. No to Obama,
and I'm delighted that I made that decision months ago.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:54 PM
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13. and no to a TRAITOR
hillary is a disaster
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:19 AM
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17. Besides she has a phoney smile, an evil glare, and she prances around the stage
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:23 AM by earthlover
giving the thumbs up to members in the crowd she probably doesn't even see, just does it for effect. I think it is all part of the "stage presence". I say that as a performer. I walk on stage, do my performance....and it takes awhile for me to see the individuals in the crowd. The lights are pretty bright and it takes awhile for the eyes to adjust.... Hillary prances out, and INSTANTLY does her point and thumbs up thingie....i find it hard to beleive that, since she does it almost every time, she is even responding to ANYONE in particular in the crowd. I think it is just an act. And maybe this is not so bad. I'm not saying this makes her a bad person. But it IS annoying.

I think Hillary has stooped to new lows in the past week or so....

I think she is 100% contrived.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 AM
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18. We need to quit jabbering and take action.
We can't just keep jabbering about defeating her, we need to go over these jabberwocky's heads and talk to those who actually will elect the next candidate.

Some of these people would follow Hillary over the edge of a cliff.
They have no power.
The power is ours.
We have the power to make a difference.

And if we don't, we will wind up with President McCain.
Because Hillary can not, and will not, ever beat McCain.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:51 PM
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62. And no to a candidate
that has supported a hate-mongering preacher(Wright) for 20 fucking years! Change the litter in the cat box as it may be effecting your good judgment.
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Thurston Howell III Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:20 AM
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19. We've tried in my area but it does no good.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:45 AM
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25. Well, it was a mistake for Hillary to turn the campaign into a debate on race.
Because 1 of the delegates that was pledged to represent Hillary at our state convention is a black woman.

And she is outraged at what has happened since February 5th when she was selected to represent Hillary.

Needless to say, she probably won't support Hillary at the convention now.

There are a lot of delegates that weren't apportioned before today, in several states that held caucuses from as long ago as 2 months.

But, a lot has happened since then.
Things have changed.

The same smiling Hillary that campaigned in Iowa, promisng them the world, has turned the campaign into a debate on race and Obama's religion.

Hillary is a Democrat, as far as I know.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:52 AM
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28. Just how did she do that?
I am curious. I see it as the other way around, and very effective for Obama.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:59 AM
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35. She ran against Obama.
Clearly, she should have dropped out the moment he expressed any interest in the race.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:06 AM
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38. Good point. I hadn't thought of that. nt
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:25 AM
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20. No thanks, from an Obama supporter
I am of the opinion that Hillary is not a racist, nor is her campaign racist. I am of the opinion that her campaign has been cast as racist largely by the repugs and repug-manipulated MSM. So to jump into the fray is to become a manipulated tool of those we would defeat in the GE.

Give it a rest - both candidate have fantastic stands on the issues, and records and talents to be proud of. Stand on the positives and don't be a tool.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:29 AM
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21. Dude, Ferraro is a racist, and she said today that she isn't wrong, and she isn't apologizing.
So, for you to say that Hillary didn't inject racism into this race is absurd.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:40 AM
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24. I agree, she is a racist and she doesn't even know it.
So what? What is it to Obama, what is it to me? If I supported Hillary for other reasons I would not care. Many older people, even those with good intentions and kind hearts are racists - it is an old worldview which is passing.

It is nevertheless a sideshow and a distraction from issues where Obama inevitably wins. To trumpet racism about is to give in to a defeatism where "the country is racist, Obama cannot possibly win". Why win an argument that loses the race?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:42 PM
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51. Speaking as a racist
I can tell you I know racists and Ferraro is no racist. Furthermore, Wright's rants are very distasteful - some of them
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:10 PM
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56. You must not have read the latest about Ferraro then.
Because Ferraro is h-i-s-t-o-r-y!

She's old, she's yesterday's news.

She's a bitter, dried up old shrew.

And a racist!!!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:40 PM
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59. And you are not at all ageist or sexist.
LOL.
Listen - exchanging one piece of alleged discrimination with another doesn't make anything better.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:31 AM
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22. Don't tell me to "give it a rest" - nearly 4000 men and women have been killed in the Iraq War.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:40 AM by Major Hogwash
And Hillary sent them there just as sure as she was ordering them there herself!

She's not qualified to be the Commander in Chief.
Period!
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:36 AM
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23. Agreement here - the war stands are critical, and Hillary loses
Then argue on the Iraq war - which has substance - and don't get trapped in this little racism sideshow.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:39 AM
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26. This is NOT a "little racism sideshow". Either you have your head in the sand or you just don't get
Out of your house often enough to see what the fuck is going on.

"Sideshow"

You are an ignorant jackass!
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:55 PM
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39. And yet I would greet you with a smile and a handshake...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:57 PM by bhikkhu
in the context of this race, both racism and sexism are little sideshows which serve only the repug side. They would have us believe that neither of our candidates are electable because the country is both racist and sexist.

Think about "med student syndrome", where intensive study of one disease or another leads to obsessive self-diagnoses of symptoms...if we spend the run up to the GE talking about Hillary is losing because of sexism, or Obama can't win because he is black, the whole country steps back 50 years. There will be a racist and a sexist in every closet and every mirror...

We have two exceptional candidates running for election; they are people, not cultures, not genders, not colors, but individuals. The campaign trail is not the place for the country to work out its angst and loathing over these issues, except in the rovian playbook.

on edit: peace
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:03 AM
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29.  No to "racism", no to BO
:thumbsup:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
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43. Do you think Hillary is not using race to divide this country?
Please tell me what's so funny about racism.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:22 AM
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30. kick
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:35 AM
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32. No to racism? What the heck do you mean? Do you mean you think people are
voting for Obama because of his race? And that if someone votes for Hillary, they are racist?

I like Obama, but come on, this sort of tack will scare away voters and delegates.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:37 PM
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45. Tell the super delegates that.
Some of them have to be re-elected this fall.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:45 AM
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33. Sounds a very good idea to me. Well more to vote with the state or lose their seat as it is unjust.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:47 AM by cooolandrew
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:00 AM
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36. Does that include Kennedy and Kerry? n/t
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:05 AM
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37. Please do it!!
The super delegates will take one look at that message and piss their pants they'll be laughing so hard at it!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:31 PM
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42. Why don't you see what Hillary is doing to America is wrong?
Why is it racism is funny to you?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:59 PM
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50. No, but I've seen what you are doing and THAT is wrong.
...and no, racism is not funny to me and I hope it isn't to you, either. Nice try...
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:06 PM
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55. Hahahahaha! She shoots, she hits the rim, spin, spin, spin, oops out of the rim.
Bitter much?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:29 PM
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40. So, the Iraq War is just a joke around here? What is this, the Washington Press Corp dinner site?
You don't remember Bush making jokes about not being able to find WMD's in the White House and the entire White House Press Corp laughing about it?

This week he was singing about it!!

Do you think Hillary cares?

No, she just wants to continue the killing.
"The troops will be home by my 2nd term". ~ Hillary Clinton.

"I am the presumptive nominee". ~ Hillary Clinton.

"You're either with us or against us". ~ Terry MacAuliffe.

There is only 1 choice for real Democrats - and that is Obama.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:31 PM
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41. Hogwash indeed
the best way to move on racism with good dem candidates is to change the economic outlook and work for economic and social justice while mouthing the platitudes.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:35 PM
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44. We don't have "2 good candidates", we have Obama and then we have the racist.
Tell me what is so good about racism.
What are the upsides to racism?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:58 PM
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52. No. We have two good candidates. Both of them may be racist
I am a racist. But of course you are cleansed of reality.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:04 PM
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53. Ferraro is a racist, there is no fucking doubt about it at all, and Hillary is too!
And everytime somebody says she's not I'm going to set them straight by saying -

Hillary is a Democrat, as far as I know.

So get on 60 Minutes and tell everyone what a looney tune Hillary really, really is.

She'll probably blame Bubba for her losing the campaign.
She never takes responsibility for her actions.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:13 PM
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57. Oh dear hogwash. You need to settle down a bit
You seem upset.
These temper tantrums are not doing much good.
She is
She isn't
She is
She isn't
Gosh - great debate.

Here's an alternative version: She is, I am, he is, and you are. Racist.
We live in the USA - we are all affected.

It's what we try to DO about it that counts.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:34 PM
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58. Hahahaha. Denial is a dish best served cold with a little whine to wash it down.
You can admit it now or later.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:48 PM
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61. Denial of what my dear?
That we live in a racist society and we are all affected by that in negative ways?

It seems to be you who is in denial of that basic fact. We are all swimming in a poisonous stew of racism. It affects all of us to some degree. You can either add to it or work to lessen it. you are adding to it.

And - as I said before - the measure is: what we DO about that racist world that matters.
Those of us who have the unearned privileges of being born white are not responsible for this mess but we must acknowledge that privilege in the best ways we know how. To me that is doing what I can to change social and economic injustices for the better.

Do you have a better plan?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:39 PM
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46. I understand that Obama is pressuring the black superdelegates
to support him just because he is black. I say: that is wrong. That is racist. WRite your delegates and say NO to racism. Yes to Clinton.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. Hahahahaha! Yeah, right!
Man, you guys are hillaryous!

LoL
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:04 PM
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63. And , you sir are
a Major Jackass! Yes, Hillary is a racist and you are the Prince of Buffoonery.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:47 PM
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47. I don't know but wouldn't it be a better idea to e-mail the
super-delegates and tell them to get off the fence, publicly announce who they will support and end this now before even more damage is done to both candidates and the Democratic party itself. Continuing this, given that, numerically, neither candidate can now reach the magic number of pledged delegates needed to win, gives the republicans and mccain a boost and will make fighting the general election harder for whomever is the Democratic candidate than would have been otherwise the case, imo.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
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49. That's a good idea, too. Let's take action!
I also never criticized Edwards, so I won't do that now.
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:47 PM
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60. I hate this thread.
I tried to ignore it earlier, but it's still here. I hate that you are making Hillary synonymous with racism and as an Obama supporter, I find your comment offensive. If a Clinton supporter had written "No to sexism, no to Obama" I'd be pretty irritated. I also doubt it is in any way persuasive as it will put people on the defensive. We need to move away from these sorts of divisive remarks.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:03 PM
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64. Hahahahaha! I hate the fact that Hillary used race to divide the Democratic party.
Hillary is a Democrat, isn't she?

She is, as far as I know.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:07 PM
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65. I'm emailing my superdelegates and telling them to switch to Hillary. Kerry and Kennedy - idiots.
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