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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:03 PM
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I am not attacking Obama.....
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:06 PM by BooScout
But I sure as hell am telling some of you that the Reverend Wright is a serious problem for Obama's Campaign. I don't know if Obama will be able to address this issue successfully no matter what he does. Even if he completey disavows his pastor I'm not sure he can convince much of the American electorate that he should be President. You can argue until the cows come home that Reverend Wright is not Obama and his views are not Obama's and it won't make a whit of difference to many voters.

This is one of those types of things that many of us have warned of this entire campaign season when we said the press was handling Obama with kid gloves.

Both Clinton and McCain have been examined under a microscope by the press for years....they have survived all sorts of scrutiny. Obama's background was not looked at in any depth until just recently by the press. It incenses me that this entire mess was not brought up until now.....had it been brought up earlier the entire primary season may have been completely different.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:04 PM
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1. He's addressing this head on .... watch Hannity and Colmes tonight (blech, I know... but just once)
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:04 PM
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2. He already addressed it, and will be on Hannity tonight to squash it.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:07 PM
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3. The press is not what I'm worried about
it's the RW smear machine. The 527s. The viral video. The e-mail threads.

The MSM is something that we can work with. The way republicans spread lies is going to be out of our control.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:07 PM
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4. That's "Chickens come home to roost"
One of Rev. Wright's statements.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:09 PM
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6. One of Malcolm X's statements actually
And one I agree with.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:14 PM
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9. You got me!
I was reading that and got them confusigated!

When asked for a comment about the assassination of President Kennedy in November 1963, Malcolm said that it was a case of "the chickens coming home to roost." He added that "Chickens coming home to roost never made me sad. It only made me glad." This remark prompted a widespread public outcry. The Nation of Islam publicly censured their former shining star. Although Malcolm retained his post and rank as minister, Elijah Muhammad banned him from public speaking for 90 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_x
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:09 PM
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5. We'll see
Since he's the presumptive nominee, and there doesn't seem much that's likely to change it, and imo, no one else running who doesnt' have similar problems, gotta play the hand we're dealt.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:12 PM
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7. So the WORDS of Rev. Wright are more important than what Obama did
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:16 PM by LSparkle
after hearing them?

Rev. Wright's job was to provide spiritual guidance for his
congregation. Look at how Barack Obama has worked to unite
people during this campaign, not to mention his work on
behalf of "the least among us" during his community organizing
days and life before public service. He's trying to run a new
kind of campaign, relying on small donors instead of big money
and avoiding personal attacks in favor of sticking to the issues.

I'd say Rev. Wright did a darned good job of inspiring Barack
Obama to be a good Christian, as well as to live out his faith through
his actions.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:14 PM
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8. He looks more presidental...
everyday.
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:15 PM
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10. Please clinton has gotten the kid glove treatment...
seriously she isn't vetted like she claims because obama doesn't make attacks like republicans do... however she does... if anything obama has been vetted...

It is pretty telling where the only criticism obama has received in the past couple weeks is from things other people have said... yet the MSM doesn't cover the fact that she said McCain was qualified to be commander and chief with as much negativity. That is the difference... saying something happened is not the same as putting a negative spin on it ... even Nancy saying it won't be a joint ticket because clinton so damaged the party... is barley covered.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:15 PM
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11. He's done a good job of defusing it. It's now a non-issue.
People will already be on another issue by Monday.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:28 PM
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13. Don't count on it....
This isn't gonna go away as easily as you would like it to.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:15 PM
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12. You realize, of course, that "I am not attacking Obama, but..." means "I am attacking Obama." n/m
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:30 PM
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14. Just by the fact ....
.....that I have a Hillary flag under my name means I'm attacking Obama in the world of GDP. :eyes:
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:52 PM
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17. Oh hell, I wasn't even looking at the flag, just the linguistic construct.
It would be the same sort of thing if someone had written, "I'm not attacking Hillary, but..."

Anyway, I'm Canadian and I don't have a horse in this race. :) I just wish it would be over sooner rather than later, before it destroys your party from within.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:32 PM
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15. You have a point about Obama but the "Clinton has been fully vetted" line is bunk
Time did not stand still in the year 2000. Bill Clinton has been doing all kinds of shady crap, including but not limited to, not keeping it in his pants. He's making $$million$$ from his lowlife associates and engaging in some pretty scandalous international intrigue. Anything he does reflects on her, which is why she's being cagey about the tax returns. And who knows what they might reveal about legislative favors she's done.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:00 AM
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19. its like this: BO is the new kid on the block--the press is gonna dig. on the
other hand, HRC is old news---live with that thought
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:23 PM
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16. Enough with Clinton and McCain already
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:24 PM by Hailtothechimp
We know that everybody from Tim Russert on down wants an "inside the beltway" election, so the rest of us can say fuck it and tune everything out as usual.

Obama will shake this up. He will be different from McCain. Radically different. And that's what America needs to get off of this nightmare that's been going down since Reagan was president.

If she's so "vetted" then where are her tax returns? Hmmmmmm?

Scrutiny my ass.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:15 PM
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18. Maybe Wright is a serious problem.
What do you propose that we do about it?

Looking for real solutions, always.

-Laelth
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