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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:42 PM
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How low can you go?
How low will HRC and her supporters go? You cry, bitch, and sob about sexism, yet you are constantly winking at voters and reminding them Obama is black.

You attack Obama for whatever is said by ANYONE HE EVER MET/KNEW/KNOWS, yet the people making disgusting comments from the Clinton side are more often then not working for the campaign.

Hillary is a monster. She's as low as Karl Rove and his breed on the right, and the Clintons don't give a HOT DAMN about America or the party. They just want what they want. Screw the rules, screw class and dignity. Just give us what we want, or we'll take it.

I don't know how any democrat could stand by a candidate that is willing to pull the crap HRC is. We're supposed to be better then this. We're not the party of fear, racism and wedge issues.

You attack Obama about experience, when Hillary has no more experience then he does. Being first lady of Arkansas and the United States does NOT count as leadership experience. PERIOD. She doesn't get to run on her husbands resume. PERIOD. Of course, it's sexism to point this out.

This campaign is a shame. I'm ashamed of my party, and I love this party. I'm ashamed that we're tearing each other to pieces, when there is only one choice that stands for the core democratic party values: BARACK OBAMA. Hillary has decided she would rather stand for her resume then for the American people.

If she was running a respectable campaign, it would be another story. Then I would be inclined to agree that this contest is healthy for the party. But she's not. We have one candidate that will move us in the direction the country needs to go, one that we can't put off any longer. After eight years of the worst president in history, we have to do this the right way, and Hillary can't get us there.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:09 PM
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1. The Obama camp
has effectively used Karl Rove tactics to swiftboat the Clintons as racists.

ATTACK THE STRENGTH.

They are fond of calling Clinton "Rovian", but she isn't --she's good old fashioned bare-knuckled Democratic politics. Sure it can get nasty --but it's not Rove-style.

That label belongs to Obama.

Who is dividing the Democratic Party?

It's Obama.

Who has called for her supporters to support whoever is the Democratic nominee?

It's Clinton.

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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:18 PM
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6. You really need to wake up. Really.
You know what? I'm done with you too.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:19 PM
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7. You've been here all of 10 days
I assure you I am wide awake --go ahead and put me on ignore.

From what I can see you ignore anything that upsets your little tea party
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:52 PM
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13. "I am done with you"...ha, ha. How dismissive, you must be all of ...oh, 22?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:47 PM
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30. 14
These Obama children - someone should tell their parents about their escapades.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:17 PM
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37. Ok now see, that's ageist.
Like it or not, that's a type of discrimination too. Don't be condescending to the younger folks that post here or the elderly/over 65 crowd is fair game too. Can't have it both ways.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:57 PM
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18. I'm going to need examples to comprehend this.
because I'm baffled.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:02 PM
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19. What exactly is so "good" about...
"good old fashioned bare-knuckled Democratic politics?"
"Who is dividing the Democratic Party?" - see above
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. I prefer them
to Obama's underhanded race-baiting.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:13 PM
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22. Wake up and smell the paradigm shift.
:eyes:
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:17 PM
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23. I don't see Obama as a paradigm shift
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 07:18 PM by maddiejoan
I see him as the same old answer to the American sheeple's quest for a Daddy figure to lead us.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:21 PM
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24. That is why you need to wake up...
HRC is the "same old answer."
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. your opinion
is no more valid than mine.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:59 PM
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35. Yes, MY opinion, and I feel so all alone.
Not.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:55 PM
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34. exactly right, Maddie
And that's why Rovian tactics work so well - the people engaging in them don't even stop to question what they're doing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:11 PM
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2. so because someone doesn't genuflect to Obama they are racists...got it
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:16 PM
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5. Not only genuflect...
You must also Praise His Name. And don't forget, thou shalt not have other gods before Him; you must not in any way praise anyone else, for He is a Jealous God.

Now, I don't think Obama himself thinks like that (at least I hope not; he has a huge ego but not that huge), but some of his suppoerts certainly give him a god-like aura.
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Moh96 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:14 PM
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3. great post k&R
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:20 PM
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8. I agree. great post. this is almost like an intelligence test. this sort
of tests how much bullshit you will accept for yourself that you wouldn't tolerate ten seconds in anyone else. I think when the season is over, some reflection setting in, some of the hysterics around here will have red faces over their shit.

Nah.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:53 PM
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14. Oh, hot dude alert. Wooo,wwoooo, wwooooo. I am sooo distracted by the hunk.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:15 PM
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4. in the next 6 weeks I think you should prepare yourself for an endless stream of misstatements
and feigned apologies. I would expect 'Cocaine use' to be coming up shortly with the obligatory resignation and apology.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:56 PM
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17. Oh, did you say "cocaine use"? Heaven forfend, grantcart. How disgusting that
candidates would take a shot at another candidate's admitted use of drugs. Shocking, it's almost like blaming them for everything their husband did.

Oooohhh.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:20 PM
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38. you have it wrong - your supposed to let the reference to adolescent behavior
slip out accidentally let it linger for a few days, apologize and then react with fake outrage when people reamark on the pattern.

Don't worry you won't have to wing it, you will get your cues from the guy with the memo. 142.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:21 PM
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9. You said "bitch". Even tho you used it as a verb, most will not read beyond the first line and we
will soon hear cries of... SEXIST !!!!!!!!!

Great post :hi:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:47 PM
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10. I assume you're talking about the Wright issue?
He's the one who has reminded us about three brazillion times that Obama "ain't" white. Go talk to him about it. This isn't Hillary's bag.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:50 PM
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11. Hillary's been running on a solid platform with diligence, intelligence and insight. Thanks, Hillary
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:55 PM
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16. I love satire. Give us more it's pretty funny.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:31 PM
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39. Here you go...Hillary has years of experience dealing with economic legislation while first lady as
well as a senator, she also has spent years advocating for and protecting the rights of children.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:45 PM
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28. yeah right ... if that were so she'd
be winning and wouldn't have to resort to the kitchen sink.

Instead she's reverting to the sewer -- her natural milieu!
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:51 PM
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12. 144 posts and so far to go.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:54 PM
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15. STOP USING THE B-word. It's offensive and derogatory.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:03 PM
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36. Bitch? That B-word?
He was not calling names - he was describing an action. What about free speech?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:07 PM
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21. "yet you are constantly winking at voters and reminding them Obama is black"
I got news for ya, genius.

Obama is black.

You say they are 'reminding people he is black'. Is that a bad thing? Is being black bad? Why would we not want people to notice he's black? Ae you hoping that, if unreminded, people might forget he's black?

May I say, your entire premise is full of shit.

I am not a Clinton supporter. I will vote for the successful Democrat come November. I will work for the nominee when chosen.

I will not participate with you in your stupid fucking spew-fest.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:23 PM
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25. Can't vote for Senator Obama
based on this. Nothing stated here makes me believe he is able to beat John McCain in the general election and that's the overall goal of the Primaries, to put in place a candidate that can beat the other Party's candidate.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:48 PM
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31. and HRC is a LOSER
she's losing against Obama now, and in the GE, Hypocrillary will galvanize GOP voters to come out JUST to vote AGAINST HER!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:41 PM
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26. K&R!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:43 PM
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27. Do you pause
right before you say "BARACK OBAMA", clutch your heart and have wipe a tear from your eye?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:48 PM
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32. The Klinton Klan Korporation sat on their hands during the Rwanda genocide
Guess Hillary won't mention that in her "foreign policy" experience.

She's a fake all the way through, just in it for the power and money.

She and Bill have accumulated $54 Million since leaving the White House broke.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 07:49 PM
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33. don't overreact or anything.
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