You can still be a Hillary supporter and concede defeat

[mudesi]

I just want to point out that there is no need to continue with deluding yourselves. It's OK to say "I admire and support Hillary Clinton, but I admit she can't win and that her staying in the race is hurting the Democratic party and giving McCain a better chance of winning the election".

It's OK to criticize Barack Obama, to point out his many flaws, and to still admit that he has won this nomination. To, in essence, say "I wish Barack Obama wasn't the nominee because he can't do this and that and he said this and lied about that but there is nothing I can do about it now because he is the nominee".

The rest of us have conceded our candidates, so why can't you? It kills me to see that Dennis Kucinich never even had a shot at this nomination thanks to the media completely writing him off. Edwards supporters can say the same thing. Edwards didn't "officially" drop out, you know, but they seem to have accepted that he can't win the nomination.

Mike Gravel is still in the race. Where are his supporters? They have accepted reality and moved on to supporting the winner of this nomination: Barack Obama.

The stages are denial, anger, grief, bargaining, and finally, acceptance.

Hillary Clinton herself is in the bargaining stage, what with offering the vice presidency to Obama and all. Why are her supporters stubbornly stuck in denial?

[katandmoon]

1. And you can blow it out your a$$

[Missy M]

16. I second it!!!!

[xultar]

2. ROFPNMFPLMFAO

[kid a]

3. can you elaborate on that acronym =)

[phantom power]

4. Could it be because she might still get the nomination?

As distasteful as that outcome may seem to you?

[mudesi]

8. Could it be that you're completely in denial?

This is what I'm talking about.

She can't get it. It's mathematically impossible. The super delegates will not overturn the pledged delegates no matter how much you wish they would.

[phantom power]

15. Actually, I hope they don't. But they could.

Your sensation of confidence about their behavior does not equal "mathematical" impossibility.

[dchill]

18. "get the nomination" - yes. Win it legitimately?

Nope.

[BOSSHOG]

5. General Clark isn't in the race and I haven't conceded his chances yet

but I really appreciate being given permission by a cultist. Do you all have meetings to decide who posts what?

[rug]

6. You can still fly in airplanes and listen to lynyrd skynyrd.

[thereismore]

7. I missed her grief stage. She was angry in Ohio, and is bargaining now.

I think she did grief just before NH. It's kind of out of order, but it'll converge. You can tell I am a BHO supporter.

[mudesi]

13. She cried, remember?

:evilgrin:

[Zhade]

9. Because they feel she's OWED the nom, even though she hasn't earned it.

It's an entitlement thing.

[BlueStater]

10. Just let the primary process play out, will you?

A lot of us aren't quite ready to coronate St. Obama.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. I Con See De Feet, De Arms, De Legs, De Head, And It's All Still Tickin.

It's gonna take some things going in her favor and in all likelihood Obama will arise victorious, but there is definitely still life in her yet...

[Metric System]

12. Oh I didn't realize that Obama had reached the magic number. GOBAMA!!!!

Oh, he hasn't? In that case, GOMAMA!!!!!!

[kotsu]

14. The primaries

are over already?

Or is it that we don't need to go through the waste of time of actually letting EVERYBODY vote?

Maybe we can carry that idea to the general election. I'll call CNN and ask them who was selected president.

[oasis]

17. Hillary's going to battle it out to the bitter end. That's just tough if Obama

can't take it. If he shows weakness or ineptitude, Dems had better catch on to it before they make him their nominee.

[RoadRage]

25. It's not Obama who can or can't take it..

It's the fuckin' democratic party that can't take it. We don't have the time or luxury of letting McCain sit back and bask in the glow of the democratic meltdown.

This doesn't just affect Obama- it hurts everyone in the party who really doesn't want a republican elected in November.

[oasis]

26. Obama had better step down now, especially in the light of his spiritual leader's

racist and other inflammatory comments.

[RoadRage]

28. Right.. well Clinton better step down.. in light of a former female VP candidates racist statements.

NEITHER candidate should step down because of what OTHER people surrounding their campaigns are saying. Hillary should step down because she's behind in delegates (with no mathmatical way to catch up), losing the popular vote, and has only won 1/2 as many states as Obama has. He can win the Blue states, and possibly flip a few red states in the process.

But, the biggest reason Hillary should step down is because she can only win this if the super delegates go against the popular vote and the delegates. And THAT will be disastorous for the party and will allow sure vicotry for McCain. THAT is why she should step down.

[oasis]

29. Geraldine Ferraro's not as scary as a crazy man who rants against America.

And Geraldine is not Hillary's "spiritual advisor".

[sfam]

30. Agreed. Obama's crazy man is worse. What's your point?

That this will somehow convince everyone who has voted for him to date to call for a recount? The horse has already left the barn. The only way Hillary wins at this point is by swaying the Supes, thereby in a sense invalidating all the votes cast. She can't possibly think that garnering a win in this way would give her a viable chance of beating McCain.

In the meantime though, these continual attacks only serve to destroy the democratic brand name.

[oasis]

31. Hill can win it. Call it a "come to Jesus moment" by Democrats who suddenly

realize that Obama isn't a sturdy enough vessel to sail them back into the White House.

[RoadRage]

33. Ironic that you consider Hillary a "sturdy vessel" in light of her campaign so far. NT

[whopis01]

34. And a very bitter end it will be. n/t

[Imperialism Inc.]

19. What boggles my mind is this is Hillary Clinton we are talking about.

The one that a few months back didn't even register in DU polls. It isn't like we are talking about a super progressive populist. We are talking about Hillary Clinton for goodness sakes. Oh well, so it will be the other middle of the road guy that wins. At least our candidate won't be one that will bring conservatives to the polls in droves to vote against them. Oh well, maybe next time we'll have a progressive candidate. This guy is pretty decent.

[rodeodance]

32. ha ha--your problem is that you continue to blow off what a strong woman she is.

[BzaDem]

20. I wish I could see your face when you realize you are wrong.

[calico1]

21. Does it make you feel real good to be so

condescending and smug? I bet it does.

:eyes:

[jconner27]

22. I don't like giving the other side what they want

The Republicans want Obama, because they know he has to be more than stomp speeches the kind he gives to his zombie like followers and once the slime starts flying they know Obama will fold faster than Superman after washing his tights.

[mudesi]

23. Republicans want Clinton

Because they know they can beat her. Just ask Rush Limbaugh.

[greyghost]

24. Sure, and NE was going to be 19-0 too. Be afraid, be VERY...

afraid.LMAO

[jmg257]

27. I would agree, EXCEPT for...

The super-delegates. NEVER underestimate the ability of Clinton to do what it takes to win.

We readily see how issues can pop-up - and quite often - that can change things on a dime. The convention is a LLLOOOOONNNNG way away.