Is it a compromise to vote for Kerry over b*sh?

[MoonRiver]

Poll question: Is it a compromise to vote for Kerry over b*sh?

Will you be sacrificing important principles if you vote for John Kerry rather than dumbya. No, Nader is not going to be included. I want to determine how folks will sort out their philosophical differences between the ONLY 2 viable candidates.

[BayCityProgressive]

1. you should make a choice for "not enough difference"

[MoonRiver]

2. How would that influence who you vote for?

You either vote Kerry or * (including his surrogate Nader).

[BayCityProgressive]

4. no

in a democracy whoever you vote for is who you vote for. Unless this is now a two party dictatorship. I am not voting for nader, i dont personally care for him..but I may not vote Kerry either. He has to win my vote just like anyone else.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. How is it that Nader is a "surrogate" of Bush when it's Kerry

...who supports a neocon foreign policy? :shrug:

So let me see if I got this right...

A vote for Bush is a vote for Bush.
A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.
A vote for Kerry is a vote for PNAC with a new frontman which is no better than Bush.

Yeah, now that's fucking inspiring! :eyes:

[emulatorloo]

14. I thought Reagan and Mondale were the same until Reagan got

re-elected.

Look, it sounds so cool to say what you are saying, but please think about the hell you are going to put so many people thru when you vote against Kerry.

Is Kerry perfect? No.

Will Kerry listen to you? Maybe

Will Bush listen to you? NO F*CKING WAY.

[AntiCoup2K4]

17. First of all, don't assume I'm not voting for Kerry.

Also, don't assume I am. Frankly, at this point it depends on a few factors. I don't think it at all unreasonable for Kerry to run on a platform that is easily distinguiashable from Bush's in every way ESPECIALLY in the area of foreign policy, since Bush/PNAC foreign policy is not only treason against this country, but has proven to be a complete disaster and has made this country less safe and the Middle East a far more unstable and dangerous place (as if they needed the help).

Second would be Kerry's choice of a running mate. Not even his biggest cheerleaders are going to be able to pass him off as a "liberal" if he picks some DLC fascist hack like Evan Bayh as a running mate. That would be a clear sign that Kerry/DLC are pandering to the right wing, which is not only suicidal, but damned useless, as the right wing already has a candidate pandering to them, and they ain't leaving him.

Furthermore, it would support the theory that the DLC is intentionally throwing the game on this one, as they did in 2002 and 1994.

[sangh0]

18. Why would we assume that you would not vote for

"a Bush enabling, PNAC supporting, FAUX funded. botox injected sellout..."????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x414994#415051

[AntiCoup2K4]

21. Geezy fucking Pete...

...I wish all I had time to do was search the archives of DU in an attempt to discredit someone with their own words.

Well guess what Sangh*??

My position hasn't changed since March 1. Kerry voted to enable Bush, he's got PNAC'ers writing his foreign policy, took money from FAUX, and has clearly sold out any "liberal values" he might have had in the 80's. Jury's still out on the botox thing, but there's little doubt his appearance changed overnight. So my question is now what it was then....

What reason has Kerry given to vote FOR him.? And "he's not Bush" is not an answer.

[sangh0]

23. You did change your position

You went from "definitely not voting for Kerry" to "I might vote for the PNAC, DLC, botoxer"

[RummyTheDummy]

26. This just in........

Dean lost.

[zonmoy]

28. gee

it inspires me to want to leave the country and the planet.

[aquart]

3. Gosh, I hope so. This system doesn't work without compromise.

It was set up so many many different people would have to compromise with each other to get anything done.

People who don't and won't compromise get you killed. They destroy civilizations.

They admit no deviance. Put two who disagree and will not compromise in a room and the only answer is death.

I'm all in favor of compromise.

[Gothmog]

5. Kerry is much better than Bush

Bush scares the hell out of me and needs to go. Kerry may not be perfect but he is far better and safer than Bush.

Remember, that the next president may get as many four supreme court picks (Stevens, Ginsberg, Rehnquist and Sandra Day). Do we want Bush putting four nut cases on the court for life?

[freetobegay]

6. God help us in the General election.

eom

[pansypoo53219]

7. voting USUALLY

is a compromise. frankly NONE of my choices were chosen so yes, i voted for the lesser of two evils, BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOT VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, YOU ARE LIKELY TO GET EVIL!!!
AND GEORGE IS EVIL CHENEY IS EVIL. THE WHO BUSH MALADMINISTRATION IS EVIL!!!

[AntiCoup2K4]

13. And the PNAC who put them in office is evil.

And nobody who even remotely supports their fascist policies is worthy of support. The lesser of two evils is still evil and in this case, there's not even a lesser in terms of foreign policy.

I don't care WHAT we have to do, unless Kerry pulls his head out of his ass and dumps these neocon Likud blowing shitheads off his campaign, we need to find a better candidate through whatever obscure procedural means possible. There's gotta be some escape clause if you're stuck with a shitty nominee.

[saracat]

15. And You feel the need to

force your viewpoint on the rest of the voting poulous at the expense of what? Reproductive choice? Fully funded educatin? Health care? Medicare? Social Security? This argument aggravates me. There is no point in supporting a personal principle at the expense of other people's lives. That makes a person as bad as Bush.
There is no perfect candidate. If there were ,he or she would have run. Right now there is only one alternative to Bush and that is Kerry. And as much as I disapprove of some of Kerry's positions, He looks perfect next to Bush!

[RummyTheDummy]

27. Do you think Kerry will invade Syria or Iran?

Please, no long winded response. Just a simple yes or no. Thanks.

[Piperay]

9. "No difference between the two"???

I guess if you consider no difference between truly good and truly EVIL, you won't see any difference, geesh! :wtf: :argh:

[Exgeneral]

10. It's alway smarter to vote for the lesser evil

I mean, even Noam freaking Chomsky recognizes THAT.that's a gimmee.
NO ONE is as bad as * on the environment.
note my sig line. (gracious bow to NSMA)

[dae]

11. Kerry may not have been my first or second choice but he's as high

above * as ice cream above $hit! I'm doing my part to make sure he's our next POTUS.
:dem::kick:

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Kerry is marginally better and will get my vote

But I won't be breaking out the champagne if/when he wins because I'll be thinking about all the other candidates I would have rather voted for. :(

[mouse7]

16. Don't let the door hit you in the ass leaving Dem party and DU

You don't want to help the nominee? You want to see Bush get a 2nd term? Fine. See ya.

[MrSlayer]

19. Kerry is better than Bush. A dead dog is better than Bush.

I'd rather have the corpse of Lassie as the President than the Chimp.

[methinks2]

20. Kerry is better than B??? but, . . .

I don't like how he was talking about Iraq on the Sunday news programs. He seems to be dropping his tough talk edge and sounding too much like more of the same. The only saving grace is the hope that the VP choice will be someone I can stomach.

[Classical_Liberal]

22. You didn't exactly include an option for your question

It is a compromise, but we also have no fucking choice much to my disgust. I have to fucking nag the lesser evil to get what I want, and will do so.

[ulysses]

24. odd phrasing.

Compared solely to Bush, no, Kerry is not a compromise. Then again, I don't know anyone here who holds Bush to be the benchmark.

[goddess40]

25. No difference - no way.

Sorry but although the difference isn't as great as it would have been with Dean, Kerry is still light years better than *. If you stay home and don't vote, you will be responsible if * gets back in office and this country goes farther in the toilet.